Is this book appropriate for elementry school?

[AliceM611]

You can see why homeschooling is the way to go.

No

Yes

Updates

+1 y

Seems 90% agree

[RavVid]

This is why the more that is spent education the poorer the education outcomes are.

Instead of focusing on Reading, wRiting and aRithmetic the money is going to Cultural Marxist subjects such as men having babies, gender fluidity and what's you're pronouns today. Sorry I forgot drag queen story hour.

The 3 R's get crowded out. You must admit it would take a lot of lessons to explain the miracle of male birth. The miracle of male breast feeding will take even more lessons.

Home schooling looks good.

[AliceM611]

Thats exactly it. Schools don't educate anymore, they indoctrinate

[RavVid]

And teachers see their role as indoctinaires because god knows what morals parents would put in their children's heads.

[loveslongnails]

Uh huh, because this takes place 6 hours a day in every school everywhere, right? One book like this exists and you go looney tunes thinking it's shoved down every 4th graders throat. When's the last time any of you even set FOOT in an elementary school to observe a class?

Cultural Marxism is nothing but a racist trope being used to rally right wing extremists who don't even know wtf it's about. LOL AS IF schools don't indoctrinate you in first place? I'm still unlearning the bullshit I was taught over 20 years ago, only to hear you neo-Conservatives revamping the same old crap while you fear monger about 2% of the world's population. You're the new McCarthy's.

Quick question - how many drag queens committed sexual assault in the USA in 2023, compared to pastors, priests, rabbi's, religiously affiliated workers, day care workers? Answer is here:
www.whoismakingnews.com

[loveslongnails]

"Anymore"? Whatever gave you the idea schools have NOT been indoctrinating kids since schools began, especially private and religious schools?

[AliceM611]

@loveslongnails I suppose their might be many lgbtq pastors, priests, rabbi's but you forgot Muslim clerics for some reason.
What is racist about be against cultural Marxism?

[RavVid]

@loveslongnails. All of the left wing causes identify an oppressed group and an oppressor group and conclude something has to be done about the oppressors.

For example gender fluid people are oppressed and heterosexual people oppress them and the hetero's must be stopped from oppressing them. So the language must be changed and hetero's must be forced to use 'new speak'.

In what way doesn't this slot right into the Marxist framework and in what way isn't it a Cultural change movement?

The miracle of male birth is a Frankensteinian notion as it requires the two men to produce an ova between them and therefore would necessitate gross manipulation of cells which is far outside of any ethics.

But again this fits within a marxist framework. A gay male couple is oppressed by not being able to give birth to a child that shares their combined genetics. In this case the oppressor is human biology. So something has to be done about biology even if it is straight out of Frankenstein.

[loveslongnails]

The web site I posted is based on data compiled from all "reported case of sexual abuse involving children" in the United States. It's not restricted to any race, religion or group. I wasn't intending to list every religious groups leaders.

I'm not going to waste my time, or yours, defining, debating or even discussing Cultural Marxism. It's nothing but a nonsensical distraction these days from what really needs to be addressed.

[loveslongnails]

Dude... Marxism is a very simple concept; the workers should control the means of production. That's what Marxism is about. As I stated to Alice, I'm not going to waste my time defining, debating or even discussing "Cultural Marxism" because the use of the term has becoming nothing more than a GOP/right-wing dog whistle that triggers the echo box.

This statement here: " All of the left-wing causes identify an oppressed group and an oppressor group and conclude something has to be done about the oppressors," is at best, misleading and overly simplistic. ANY oppressed group identifies the oppressor and wants it to be stopped.

You also sound like you're assuming there's something inherently wrong with stopping an oppressor from being oppressive and changing, at the very least, their spoken words towards the group? Language changes, and yes, it can be confusing to the "old ways" when a given society or culture moves in certain direction. Your example actually proves MY point; there comes a time when it's absolutely necessary to change one's attitude because it IS oppressive, and wrong. And with that change comes a revised nomenclature.

[RavVid]

@loveslongnails Marx contributed class conflict (which I outlined with oppressed and oppressor classes) and Marxian economics which was a fail e. g. wage theft.

Craft manufacturers had always owned the means of production but the Industrial Revolution destroyed their viability. It was a very obvious and kindly thought to enable peasants to compete and naive communism/socialism thought predated Marx's 1848 Communist Manifesto. Saint-Simon and Leroux amongst others.

When inherent human biology turns out to be the oppressing class then you do have to question your conceived sense of oppression and are you just FITH?

There is a considerable difference between in being oppressed by not having food to eat and being oppressed by not being perceived as you might like to be perceived. The two are simply not the same.

You don't get to tell people how to perceive you.

[RavVid]

I agree it is not worth further discussion.

[loveslongnails]

" You don't get to tell people how to perceive you." Yes, you do, at least in the legal sense. When they perceive you for being "less than human" or "unfit to live" because you're queer, or something they are not, they probably won't change their minds about that. However, in the eyes of the "law", they might have to, unless you live in Florida or other insane red states, that is.

[RavVid]

@loveslongnails A lot of emotional illness stems from wanting to be perceived in a particular way and it becoming apparent you aren't. The real problem is having a need to be perceived in a particular way; not in your not being perceived in your preferred way.

You are best off not trying to force a perception of yourself onto others. That is simply part of growing up.

[loveslongnails]

Sorry buddy, I don't agree with that at all.

[RavVid]

Just found out this miracle of male birth is the miracle of a woman who thinks she is a man getting knocked up.

[Lliam]

It shouldn't be in ANY school or grade level.
Schools are supposed to be educating, not deluding.
People who approve crap like this for schools should be prosecuted for child abuse.

Here are somethings that should be taught:
- Men can't get pregnant.
- Women who think they are men are insane, as are men who think they are women.
- Don't be mean to insane people but don't go near them.

[TenderFantasy]

How sad. Kids already have small enough brains. They won't get this one. But why forcing it on them though? I didn't need to understand this as a child because what two ADULTS do with themselves and their sex lives was NONE of my business lol. I guess now kids care about that stuff? For the longest time, I didn't even want to think about where babies usually came from, but now it's being shoved down children's throats. Poor kids.

[Veles]

This book belongs in the trash, not in the school library.

[JacobJordan]

Not only is that not appropriate for any children it is also a scientific and medical impossibility. The delusion is absolutely brutal at this point

[lightbulb27]

I don't think it's appropriate to write insanity material. When I see males making babies come out of them I might reconsider... and that's without surgeries and implantation of female organs... all natural.

how did we get here... and how do we go back.

[TadCurious]

That book is awful. It's part of the trans agenda which includes indoctrinating children.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

And they say there isn't a LGBT agenda targeting kids? 👌

[AliceM611]

If they'd teach about the regret many feel after gender reassignment especially trans women. They've zero sexual feeling anymore and have to shove something up there twice a day to maintain the opening.

[loveslongnails]

No it's not, but that's hardly a mandate for home schooling. Do you have ANY idea what it involves for the parent? Do you think that all parents are qualified to teach all subjects in terms of knowledge or teaching skills? The current wave of "home schooling and/or school vouchers is nothing but a ruse for fleecing tax dollars and making public schools fail even more than they ever have.

[AliceM611]

The current homeschooling thing is so that your kids actually get a basic education rather indoctrinated with such nonsense

[loveslongnails]

Talk about nonsense. The vast majority of parents are ill equipped to teach their children the basic school skills they need. You've fallen for the one-tenth of 1 percent bullshit credo. There's more indoctrination going on in religious and private schools than you even have a clue about.

[AliceM611]

The vast majority of schools are ill equipped. Our local school has classes of 40 and kids have to fight to get a desk.

[loveslongnails]

And whose fault is THAT? If you keep electing people who don't want to FUND education, both on the state and local levels, and then elect school boards infiltrated with "Moms for Tyranny" who want to book ban virtually everything, that's what you get!

There was enough of a problem to begin with as kids have been getting indoctrinated with false history and nationalism since textbooks were invented. Then it got compounded by the most insidious misdirect in years; let's blame the educators!!

When you ELECT people who want to keep the populace dumbed down because it makes them easier to manage, this is what you get. Then you blame the teachers. Now you want take the education process out of the hands of many good teachers and give it to untrained parents, religious leaders and God knows who else? That's just brilliant.

[Al_Musafir]

No, not at all. This brainwash and filth needs to be kept away with general public let alone kids.

[Hannajenky]

I’m tired of gay homophobes worrying about dumb shit that doesn’t matter.

if you support banning books I’m willing to bet everything I own that you don’t even read any. People who support banning books are morons.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

True. 💯 Agree.

[JacobJordan]

Nah these types of books should not be seen by children or teenagers. Especially when it is a scientific and medical impossibility for a male to give birth. The kids have 80 years for you to push that stuff on them give them the first 18 so they can enjoy the innocence and joy of being a child. Only a monster would deny children that.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

That's 💯 true too

[AliceM611]

@myloveforuisinfinte who said anything about banning this book? The question is about whether this work of fiction is suitable for elementary school children. We don't teach kids that 2+2=22 so why teach them that men can have children?

[myloveforuisinfinte]

I didn't anything about banning or not banning lmaooo. That girl @Hannajenky said about banning books 😂 lmao
If u don't want to teach your kids about this then don't buy and if u want then u can buy.
One more thing 2+2 is mathematically wrong but according to phy it's true - how?
According to resistor colour code: first two bands of resistor represents first two significant figures of the resistance in ohm. So according to carbon resistor it's true lol

[myloveforuisinfinte]

One more thing, it's not men. its transgender men. there is a difference, ig transgender men don't have problem with it

[gorydetails]

And normal people are sick of you perverts trying to corrupt children.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

@AliceM611 2+2=22 is right according to resistor colour code theory of phy

[AliceM611]

@myloveforuisinfinte this is why the Chinese are winning lol

[myloveforuisinfinte]

If u are talking about that question, It's from 11th standard phy , if u don't know go highschool again. No one is winning fr. If someone is let them be. And I'm again saying I didn't said anything about book bruh

[JacobJordan]

@myloveforuisinfinte only women/females get pregnant. It is literally one of the notable qualities of being a woman. Their is not a male or man alive that can get pregnant because men/males do not have the required organs to even attempt such a feat. In addition have seen some fake women they can just have those things transplanted. They actually can not. If doctors were to transplant a uterus into a male/man do you know what would happen? His body would attack it as a foreign entity in other words he would die. Okay but let's presume it didn't happen. Okay well still missing all the other bits to get pregnant. But again if we assume they managed to get pregnant. They wouldn't be able to carry the baby to term lethal outcome for both. Okay but if they made it to term. The baby would be crushed into a bloody, bone fragmented paste because of the male hip bone structure which in women is special as it allows a baby to pass through safely. So you see no matter what fake women do they will never been women and vice versa. And frankly I find it offensive to even suggest a man could be a woman. By and large men are not as emotionally intelligent as women. They have a lower pain tolerance. They do not have the motherly protective instincts (yes they are different than fatherly protective instincts) they do not see colors the same or hear things the same. Muscle, bone density are entirely different. And many many other things. As a scientist with a doctorate and owner of a lab in my near 20 years of scientific study I have not once ever seen a trans person's genetic information be that of the gender they claim to be. Meaning they are not that gender.

[Joshydavid25]

Yeah, man I don't know why they need to push something with such a small population size on kids as if a lot of people are doing it.. Knowing that these kids won't meet anybody like in everyday life.. There's definitely an agenda.. They want to normalize it so bad..

[myloveforuisinfinte]

Transgender man pregnancy is possible 😶. lol now it depends upon people's pov how they see. Eg : Beatie
💀💀💀

[myloveforuisinfinte]

If someone wants to get pregnant then what's the problem 💀💀

[gorydetails]

SO, women.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

Yeahhh 😊 where's my cup of coffee:) haha

[gorydetails]

I'm glad we agree this book is nonsensical and a biological impossibility.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

Nonsensical according to people pov's. Point of view is different according to different people. For some it's not good , not true, nonsensical and for some it's good, it's true , it's sensible. I can't say anything about this , do what u think it's right. But according to science specifically biology - Anyone who has a female reproductive part especially uterus and ovary can become pregnant and give birth to a baby. In this case , men didn't gave birth , instead its transgender man , or non-binary person gave birth. Hope u got it

[gorydetails]

No. Nonsensical for science and reality. There's no such thing as a transgender man. There are women who cut their tits off and pretend they are men. But they aren't men by any definition.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

First of all, It's not nonsensical for science tbh , if u were a medical student you know very well, since u are not and I'm a medical student okk
Sex is assigned at birth, refers to one’s biological status as either male or female, and is associated primarily with physical attributes such as chromosomes, hormone prevalence, and external and internal anatomy. It's always remain 2 either XX or XY, not other than that.
Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for boys and men or girls and women. These influence the ways people act, interact, and feel about themselves.
Why some people are transgenders then there are biological factors
such as genetic influences and prenatal
hormone levels, early experiences, and
experiences later in adolescence or adulthood
may all contribute to the development of
transgender identities.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

Second, if someone want to cut of their tits off or not, their choice not yours. U are not converting into other gender? So what's problem? lmao, if someone wants to become something then they have a right to choose. Suppose if u want something and others denied that , will u say the same thing? Nope coz u want that thing , and others opinion become useless. So that's how people who belongs to LGBTQ want something, they become. That's normal. Not your problem.
For transgender man: Being socially accepted as male (sometimes known as passing) may be challenging for trans men who have not undergone HRT and/or surgery. Some trans men may choose to present as female in certain social situations. After physical transition, trans men usually live full-time as male. However, some transmasculine individuals might choose to use and engage their bodies to be pregnant, birth a baby, and breastfeed. That's completely normal too.
So, being a man, whether you rush after a woman or you run after a man, the thing is: you are still running after a body. That's same thing. The most important thing is that why do
we even need to categorise someone on the basis of his/her sexual preference, why are making it fuss. Sexuality doesn't matter much, you can love and make relationships with anyone. But it matters if u are a good human or not.

[myloveforuisinfinte]

Before replying me anything, read those replies first. Then reply😊

[gorydetails]

If I paint an orange red, does it become an apple?

[MiddleAgedClimbee]

Dammit, tapped the wrong tab. Absolutely not. If it's not cool in our home, I wouldn't want them reading it at school either.

[Zestyassmf1997]

Maybe in the context of exposing kids to the fact that there are some really insane people out there.

[exitseven]

This is the shit that liberals are peddling to little kids. In the old days they would be fired on the spot. Maybe even thrown in jail

[Paris13]

No!! Like Kids Being Allowed to Se a Drag Show Instead of a Bozo Show, NO WAY. xxoo

[Sirenboobzilla]

I don't think so. Maybe for a kid born in to that specific family type, but not for the rest.

[Tamera952]

Oh come on, that can’t be real! Where did that come from?

[JacobJordan]

Sadly it is real and the LGBT community is trying to sneakily push it on children behind parents backs.

[Anonymous]

^ This

[Sasahara]

Who says they are afraid, they are just asking if a book is appropriate for elementary school.

[AliceM611]

@Sasahara is it a party matter?

[Sasahara]

I don’t think so? Book is obviously bollocks, but her answer here implies people are afraid of it. I don’t see any fear in your question.

[Bklynbadboy12]

Hell no and id be offended if they taught some bullshit like thst to my child

[Anonymous]

Probably more appropriate in the science-fiction section of the high school. It's pretty dumb for elementary school.

[Ashley1993]

Not appropriate

[ChicoFromThe305]

There's a lot of weird shit the schools put in the libraries

[EmmaMary]

@alicem611

No, absolutely not.

[laly520]

I dont think its appropriate

[AngryCarl]

I don't know if that's a real book but I don't support this kind of misinformation.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Damn!

No!

[Kelly6]

@alicem611 absolutely not.

[Sparkie460]

No it's not appropriate

[PastDue]

What the fuck?

[Slim57]

Not appropriate to even exist.

[deus_ex_sisyphus]

Maybe its satire / implied fart joke?

[Simslover92]

Wtaf

[Summeroflove]

Oh my gosh! This gets dumber by the day

[Altheavas]

No! It’s not, I would be upset.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I think it’s funny.

[Summeroflove]

In a sad way

[slatyb]

Post a link to the book.

[slatyb]

It's not real.

[BigBootyKay]

Hell no

[Jamie05rhs]

Absolutely not!

[Guido]

That is fucked up.

[BrookeS]

Not at all