Should some truths be ignored if it harms the New religion of woke?

[findacure4wokeness]

I'm pretty sure only a cult needs protection from facts.

it wise to write lies into university text books while asking too many questions about such lies results in hash disciplinary actions?

Yes hiding the truth can sometimes be a good thing

No there is always a price to pay in the end

[Danzigdawson]

Wokism is not a religion or even an organized movement. It's a made-up, umbrella term used by conservatives and the far-right to demonize people who fight for equality and social/economical justice.

It's nothing new in the scapegoating milieu:

• nazis had the Jews
• McCarthyism had the commies
• Christianity has Satan and hell
• Incels have feminism
• Putin has the so-called "neo-nazis" of Ukraine and the west
• Trump has the fake news and wokes
• Protestants had catholics
• Catholics had protestants
• Lenin had the bourgeoisie
• Etc.

[NewgodOmega]

A lot of truth and I mean a hilariously unimaginably miserably horribly stupendously epic amount of truth is already ignored by the world

[msmissydc]

You are mixing something here. Lies are normally spread by a lot of convervatist to protect them, while woke people are about the truth. So no we should not let them life in their dreamworld. Confront them with reality, Conservatives need to learn the harsh reality and nit get triggered all the time.

[findacure4wokeness]

Interesting, What type of lies do Conservatives spread? Are you ready to confront reality even if it destroys your world view? I've never met a woke person who claims to take the red pill like that.

[msmissydc]

Feel free to try. I dont know what kind of stupidity you share with conservatism. Most people asking that question, answer my answer with, yeah I am not that stupid these are extremist views. So before you begin with a moving goalpost argument lets get the most extreme cases out of the way. I hope you dont believe in flat earth, space lasers or the 'stolen election'. If you are not on U. s. Conservative level I get something else. On this site I just assume americans when it comes to these arguments.

[findacure4wokeness]

Most Conservatives want to debate and the liberals want to threaten with violence and cancelation, Liberals want to deplatform and censor. Governments of the west know they can't win a debate so they set up organizations to erase non woke talking points they can't refute. This sounds like the actions of people that are afraid of truth. Are you offended by Questions?

[JacobJordan]

The harsh reality that men are men, women are women, trans people need mental help, trans people are not mentally stable, that abortion is wrong, that freedom of speech means freedom of speech, that the second amendment cannot not restricted. Yeah I agree everyone needs to learn these harsh realities and many more. Like feminism hasn't been useful in 60 years, the pay gap doesn't exist, children should be taught math, science language arts history and not indoctrinated by pedophiles claiming to be a different gender. That illegal immigrants don't belong in America. All harsh realities that everyone needs to accept.

[msmissydc]

No I am not offended by questions. Interesting points you make. So who wanted book bans again? Who screams indoctrination and is afraid of people talking? Oh yeah conservatives. So what did liberals ban again? Is your only argument, that I am offended by something in your imagination? Most conservatives try to debate and we are violently threatening? Lets see when your first threats and personal attacks start. Pretty sure you interchange the two sides here. So which non woke talking point can they not refute? Also which western government is not partially conservative?

[msmissydc]

- The harsh reality that men are men, women are women: yes thats how that works. Reality check!
- trans people need mental help, trans people are not mentally stable: So your argument is their mind is wrong while my argument is their body is wrong. Fact is it doesn't fit obviously we agree on that part. Lets make it fit there is an easy and a hard way. One that helps them and one that doesn't.
- that abortion is wrong: bold statement. Not a truth though. Killing is wrong when do we ban people from weapons to make it harder? Of you speak of it later. I see your hyprocrisy hahah. Also you want to suport children so lets fund childcare and mother support right or does your hypocrisy go further?
- That freedom of speech means freedom of speech: agree! So let everyone talk. You DO know it doesn't mean freedom of consequence right?
- that the second amendment cannot not restricted: Why not? Its a law. You can change law that are too old to make sense. Funny are you for or against killing?
- Like feminism hasn't been useful in 60 years, the pay gap doesn't exist: which one are you talking about? Not knowing how to answer the question would just show me you dont even know what you are talking about so please read into it before saying something stupid.. again... Fact that you think that way proves my point that feminism IS needed.
- children should be taught math, science language arts history and not indoctrinated by pedophiles claiming to be a different gender: yes get pedophiles away from children. Priest pedophiles and other forms of bible class indocrtrination should stop. Lets them read the books they want! Wait who was for freespeech again? I though you are the one not wanting something banned? Please explain again.
- That illegal immigrants don't belong in America: ok. What makes a person illegal? Its a law. Is that law usefull or does it hurt more people than it saves? If yes then change it!

[findacure4wokeness]

Whites don't need POC but they seem to need us so much so that whites run away and POC chase us down. If it wasn't true then Diversity wouldn't need to be forced on us.

[JacobJordan]

You can't change your gender if you were born with a penis and identify as a woman you can't become a woman. Trans women are invading women's space and raping women and children. Leftists are the ones that support the Trans community lol. If you cross the US border without permission and proper documentation you are illegally entering the US that makes you illegal. It is quite simple to enter the US legally so nothing needs to change. And as the typical leftist you prove my point of trying to infringe and change the second amendment which is not a law it is a right. Leftists and democrats always confuse rights with laws. "The RIGHT of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" very clear cut and dry. The pay gap has been proved wrong by men, and women. In fact women and men have even proved that if there is a pay gap it is men that have to deal with it not women. Feminism hasn't been needed for 60 years. Women have had equality for about 60 years. There have been pockets of problems as people get used to those changes. Feminism is no longer about equality it is about superiority and is firmly a left pushing ideology.

[JacobJordan]

Abortion is factually killing a baby. You can call it a fetus but fetus means unborn offspring. Offspring is synonymous with baby or child. It is Leftists that think abortion should be legal across the board so they can legally murder a child. If I were to kill a pregnant woman I would be charged with double homicide. If the fetus or unborn offspring is not a child or a baby then why is the charge double homicide? Because that is a baby regardless of the development stage. That is a biological fact. The same biological facts that state that it is a biological impossibility for a man to become a woman and a woman to become a man. Killing people is illegal already and people still do it so banning access to weapons won't change anything they are already ignoring the laws that state you can't kill people why would they listen to laws that restrict their ability to get a weapon to do so 🤣🤣🤣. See this is the problem with the leftist mindset you think by adding more laws people are going to listen to them someone breaking the law doesn't care about the law.

[msmissydc]

Lets go one by one, and dont break into chaos here. I now know which conservative lies you believe in:
If trans women would invade womens spaces why are women on average more supportive of the lgbtq+community? Maybe because that statement is factually untrue. Maybe you invent a wrong argument here? Maybe you are just hatefull?
What about a statistic? Something to show that?

[msmissydc]

Also because you like to make them the perpetrator: here is an article that shows not allowing them to use their bathroom of choice makes them more likely to be victims lets not ignore that side of the debate. publications.aap.org/.../School-Restroom-and-Locker-Room-Restrictions-and

[JacobJordan]

Lol yeah cause it is trans women raping young girls. Trans women do not belong in the women's bathroom

[msmissydc]

That is a made up fact. Any statistical evidence supporting that claim? It is one of the many lies and indoctrination conservatism is spreading, like I told you.

[JacobJordan]

Read the news child or watch a senate hearing about it where it is brought up it is very common

[msmissydc]

Then support it with statistics 'child'! If it's true then there are statistics. Politicians spreading lies and supporting an agenda is not evidence. You do know, that emtpy unsupported claim that support your world view, are the lies I talk about from the start right?

[JacobJordan]

www.womensforumaustralia.org/rape_victim_fights_back_after_a_trans_identified_male_was_given
welcome to facts which I am sure you will promptly ignore being the typical leftist.

[msmissydc]

Two options here: you think that is a statistic or you want me to accept that as a statistic. Either option doesn't result in you being anywhere close to a good argument. This is not neccesarily wrong but it's NOT a statistic. Do you know what a statistic is?
If you think this is a typical left argument to say. Yes it is on average we seem more informed how to not blindly believe what people tell us, or actually look for a statistic instead of being influenced by anecdotes. So yes a typical leftist option is to not blindly believe and look for statistics to stay factual.
So which is it, You think this is a statistic or you just want to let me know there are 4 cases?

[JacobJordan]

Oh I am not providing the evidence you demand. I am providing the evidence that proves that what I am saying about supporting leftist bullshit is harming women and young girls. And like the typical leftist you are you ignore that because it doesn't suit your narrative. So thank you for proving you are a standard woke leftist who will keep moving the goal posts and ignore reality if it doesn't fit your twisted view of the world. I will not be wasting further time on you because you simply aren't important enough to do so. Good day stay away from children

[msmissydc]

What I demand is that you have a better argument than ' trust me bro'. If that is too much for you then it just proves you can't stay factual and blindly believe the lies that are told to you, which was my argument in the first place. YOu talk about invading spaces and raping them. What you provided is about anecdotes. If you think they are important, feel free to talk with these people. But you haven't provided statistical support. So if these outliers are your biggest problems then you have a pretty small problem. If these cases are your call to change then it proves you simply believe in what is told and fake problems and are simply easy to manipulate. Which again was my point in the first place!
So thank you for proving my point as well. Guess we are finished?

[laly520]

so is that a question to welcome different opinions or just u projecting ur own opinion?

[findacure4wokeness]

It's an invitation to express your point of view. Truth or Woke? what do you support?

[laly520]

I never supported woke shit especially the type of woke in which they try to force it n shove it down others throats
I simple believe in personal freedom of picking n deciding what to believe

[findacure4wokeness]

I try to except the truth even if it is nasty and doesn't support my world view, I have always in the end abandoned ideas I loved if that could stand up to scrutiny.

[laly520]

as side remark
woke doesn't always mean truth
lot of times it means more lies n bs no one needs

[OtterMan68]

Should media critical of Trump lose their licenses as Trump has threatened? Should the truth be censored to protect Trump's ego?

[findacure4wokeness]

No not if they can prove that they have no Bias or have not engaged in holding back evidence coming up to an election like the hunter laptop for instance. They wanted Biden to win and they helped to deceive the public to do it. maybe we should look a little closer at the motives behind that don't you think? Political witch hunt after Political witch hunt that turned up nothing but lies are something we all expected from liberals. I'm not interested in hearing anymore of the bullshit. It just the little boy who called wolf now to me. That's why i guess people won't listen to any criticism against him because his character assassins no longer have any credibility if they had any to begin with. I think it's dangerous to give anyone a pass on scrutiny even trump but now he has it. It's like a psyop, spread a whole lot of lies about some thing or one then expose it all so everyone will automatically dismiss a truth of great concern later.

[FunkyMonkee]

Absolutely not! The more harm it does, the better!!