What’s a feminist? Why is it surfacing in debates and divisions between women and men?

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I’m still not understanding the point of the negative, hype, taboo and talk of what feminism even is/does.

I just see man and women being separated by a man made label, instead when man and woman could push things aside and get along.
What does it have to take for you all involved, to let it all go and get along together..

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It sounds like an unnecessary debate/argument to focus on.

JacobJordan · Accepted Answer

Feminism is a woman made label. Which originated as a terrorist group and then turned into an equality movement and in the 60s turned into a superiority complex culminating in today where women are miserable and still demanding "equality" when they have had equality for 60 years and if they would just be quiet instead of bitching all the time they would see it. Branch offs of feminism include movements like the me too movement which was a push by women to force the acceptance of rape allegations as fact without due process and to prosecute the accused without proof or evidence. Resulting in a mass increase of false rape allegations. In addition we have the push for men to accept that if a woman says he is the father he is leading to absurd levels of paternity fraud because she was being a whore. 25-33% of father are raising kids that are not theirs. All of the above and more is why anyone who claims to be a feminist is immediately known to be a piece of shit and the embodiment of a walking talking red flag.

DextroShade · Accepted Answer

Feminism is only about giving women the rights of men, keeping the privileges of women, and having the responsibility of children. They only ever want equality when it benefits them:

They want the right to vote but not have to sign up for the draft like men do.
They want to work and make their own money but still expect a man to make more than they do and pay for everything.
They want more women as doctors, lawyers, and executives but don't want to work in plumbing, electrical, HVAC, and sanitation.
They want to demand a high-value man who somehow treats them as an "equal partner" but throw a fit when men say they don't want women who are fat or promiscuous.

Feminism has destroyed the family unit which has been one of the biggest disasters in human history.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

There's a reason why most women won't call themselves feminists (except online) anymore, even though they believe in all the principles original feminism represented. But the thing is, almost everyone believes in those principles today, and with the exception of abortion rights (see below), women already have all the same rights as men. And yet feminism today is nastier than ever. It's really not doing anything positive, but it's doing some harm. That's why most women don't identify as feminists now.

Regarding abortion rights, that's an ideological issue, not a gender issue. I know more women than men who are opposed to the way abortion has been used for the last 50 years, and feminism clearly does not represent the interests those women.

HappyWoman34 · Accepted Answer

Feminists gave women almost equal (in western parts of the world); rights to men. Look up Emmeline Pankhurst, the suffragettes movement and the sixties and seventies women’s liberation groups. Listen to their theme song, I am Woman, by Helen Reddy.

ManOnFire · Answer

That's a  woman  made label. In some sense there isn't actually anything wrong with feminism per se, it's the  form  of it that is. Most of it as we know it and what has poisoned our societies was created by white-feminists ( not white women in general, because even some of them hate it ) who were already privileged. They also were basically using feminism as a prop for them to have casual sex "like men." White-feminists also got the ball rolling with ideas that all men are predators/rapists, which is really based on their own obsession with sexual assault. So because of it, feminism has become a stain that even a lot of women don't want to identify with anymore.

Anonymous · Answer

Over the last 20 years feminism transformed from it's roots as an equality movement into a toxic, sexist hate driven movement. It was inevitable that men would react eventually, and now we have MGTOW and Red Pill on the other side matching feminisms hate and bitterness. Both sides just keep escalating and making matters worse. But let's keep in mind, MGTOW and Red Pill only exist because of feminism. If feminism went away tomorrow, MGTOW and Red Pill would be gone the next day. That should answer your question about what it will take.

SolitarySolace · Answer

Feminism is a female superiority cult. It does what the democrat party does with everything which is branding itself as something positive and good and righteous while doing the complete opposite. In this case, anti-man, anti-masculinity, anti-family while claiming to seek equality for both men and women but only if it benefits women. If you honestly believe feminism is about equality between both men and women ask yourself why do feminists refuse to work alongside the Men's Right's Movement? Instead they antagonize the Men's Right's Movement as somehow misogynistic! They view the Men's Right's movement as a counter to Feminism. As if Men are the enemy of women. Male feminists just want to worm their way into a feminist's pants by being an "ally" by doing things like supporting pro choice women in killing his child. I suggest watching "The Red Pill Documentary by Cassie Jaye" a former feminist who saw the light.

Anonymous · Answer

Honestly there is feminism and Feminism. The people who want equally rights & treatment and the people who want women above men, to opress men. The border is made very thin because everyone associates Feminism with the second. The Man-hating women who want men to suffer. Which is why Feminism has got such a negative label. Especially thanks to movements like MEETOO and the increasing rate of false rape allegations which put innocent men in jail without any concequences for the fraud women who put him in there just because she hated him or just were bored.

So why do most men hate Feminism and girls who label themselves a feminist? Due to al the negative things the second example of Feminism has done. The man haters.

Anonymous · Answer

Watching the red pill by feminist Cassie Jaye will tell you all you need to know. I'm sorry that you and your kind are blinded by the harm feminism has done..

For example, the national organization for women (NOW a feminist organization) has fought hard to have men excluded from the definition of rape, they fought and continue to fight hard to keep men from having equal shared parenting when divorce happens. Or the fact that they tout the wage gap, and the 1 in 5 rape statistic as the religious gospel truth.. Or how feminism has encouraged transsexualism to push for men being in women's spaces women's sports and all around damaged women's safety over all.. Feminism has blood on its hands.

Messiking · Answer

If feminism was good for society, it would unite people, not divide them. In my opinion, society is too divided and blinded to stand over the divisions. I am an opponent of every ideology. because every ideology is harmful because it eventually turns into extremes and every ideology has an enemy. Unfortunately, I don't believe that the world will reconcile. this is probably not possible. society is corrupted, among other things, by feminism and it will get even worse. feminism does nothing good in its current form, unfortunately it is trained for women and men. Good luck

normalice · Answer

Fundamentally, a feminist is simply someone who believes women should get equal pay for equal work. This is causing division for the same reason anything ever does: the rich don't sant to pay so they bought the media and get us mad at each other to distract, as they have done for ten thousand years..

Filthy_Immigrant · Answer

its a toxic cult that makes women believe that being good mothers to their kids and a good wife to their husbands means they're "oppressed" and that getting a career and fucking every loser in town means they're "Free and got something to brag about for life."

its widely accepted and supported by the government nowadays because it does good for capitalism

JoeGoldberg · Answer

There’s feminists and there’s toxic feminists
Healthy Feminists fight for the equality of women; pro choice, getting paid as much as men, etc.
Then there’s the toxic feminists who say ‘k! ll all men’ or ‘you should never be a house wife’ and that’s where the divisions come from.

Anonymous · Answer

Young naive people think a feminist is one thing, usually relying on the dictionary definition. That hasn't accurately reflected what most feminists are actually like in practice for many years.

People who have learned about or experienced the pervasive toxic nature of feminism, are the ones who criticise feminists. Nothing against women. Just the shitty state of a movement that has for decades espoused one thing and deceptively fought for something else.

genericname85 · Answer

well we are being separated by online media algorythms. cause normal opinions aren't exceptional. they don't generate attention. outrageous opinions generate attention and since online media live from attention, our public discourse is more and more influenced by the extreme opinions of a tiny minority online rather than by what most peoples opinions are in real life.

Snakeyes7 · Answer

A feminist is someone who outwardly says that they want equality between the sexes, or at the very least for the sexes to get along.

Their plans on how that gets achieved is where the debate happens, because some might say that the feminists believe that men are more privileged than they actually are and going with the plan will give women more social power than most of them can handle.

strateguy632 · Answer

a feminist is someone who says they want equal, to hide they realy want a woman in charge, like ceo' instead of a man who gets pushed down. or lower!

blueonblack22 · Answer

If you are 35 and still believe that modern feminism is “good” then I don’t know what to tell you.  It’d not like you are a recently indoctrinated 19 year old university freshman.

Agape93 · Answer

A real feminist is a man or woman who believes in full equality between men and women. That's it.

NaultD · Answer

I'm with you but the logic is I've struggled alone to hold this basically meaningless power and now I have to share it with others? That's bullshit.

The_Sexpert · Answer

It's NOT a man made label  Modern feminism and feminists hate men  So as you said , men and women should push it aside togethet just like Misogyny

captain_voidwalker · Answer

Feminism is a hate movement against men. I dont care what you say I've seen it push agendas that absolutely devastate thousands of women just to hurt a few men.

Danzigdawson · Answer

Be prepared for a deluge of incels ranting about the red pill.

OtterMan68 · Answer

The original feminist

libsaretards · Answer

There are 2 types. One wants true equality. The other wants men to be slaves to them. The second one is modern feminism.

laly520 · Answer

feminism was NEVER about divisions  what we r seeing nowadays is no longer the real feminism except for veryyyy rare cases, very rare

Anonymous · Answer

The same things it'll take for Palestinian's and the israeli's to get along.

I'll answer this question if it really is serious question. But I think most people know (and at 35 i think you do to), they just pretend like they don't.

JesseP1nk · Answer

My problem with feminism is they want all the benefits but do not want responsibility what comes with those benefits.

MrDaveAPSI · Answer

Women want to be treated just as well as men, especially in terms of pay, where they still make less on the dollar, than men do

Olgamasha · Answer

In my opinion men’s and women’s worth should treated equally and stop hating on each other.

grega239 · Answer

Its a female supremacist movement

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