I am an Indian, I always had this question in my mind. Why did Russia and USA became enemies?

[Anonymous]

[StarWarGirl]

The answer lies in history. It all started from world war 1. World war 1 was actually mainly among Europeans only. So during that time it was being very difficult for Britain and France to control Germany in that war. So they approached Russia to open the eastern front of Germany so it's power could reduce from other front and they had promised Russia that they will support. So Russia opened that front and got involved in world war 1 fighting from the Britain and France side. But as promised Britain and France didn't support russia and lots of Russian armies got killed in that war. It was sooooo bad situation. That also without reason. So this is how Europe Russia when it trusted them.

And because of this decision to trust them and getting involved in war, after sacrificing so many lives the Russian masses got very much angry and overthrown king and there came "Russian Revolution". After that everything got changed in Russia all system got changed. And Russia became a Socialist society. Which was one kind of threat to communist. Because communist needs market and socialist system is such that they are more focused on society. So their is almost no scope for communicat to grow in such system and to make profit. And also this socialist system was getting very much successful and the developmental growth was very much higher in that system. So communist countries like US and Europe felt threatened and that's how they become enemy. Because US didn't want this system to grow.

Later during cold war phase this enmity grew more deeper when both Russia and US were in war but behind curtains. Whenever US felt like there would be any chance of Russia influence over any countries which are getting freedom newly they secretly played games and did indirect wars. Russia also did such things and this is how we got some socialist new countries some communist.

India also initially was more towards socialist approach and it kept it's market closed. But once when India was in very much in needs of funds and it needed to reach to World Bank then they put condition before India to first open it's Market.

So this is new era. New era of colonization. Where countries doesn't colonize another countries but they tend to colonize their market. And so wherever they see threat they fight. And it's nature of US and European.

So this is whole picture.

As S. Jaishankar rightly said, western world needs to come out of mentality that their problems is world's problems but other countries problems aren't theirs.

[StarWarGirl]

So this is how Europe cheated* Russia...

[StarWarGirl]

Sorry, replace my all "communist" word with "capitalist" and so on. And "socialist" with "communism".

I got confused in terms but actual meaning is same. One system in which it is more focused on private profit which is US way and Russia way of community's profit system.

[Asker]

Oh I see ! You are right about India.

[Asker]

Haha ! You got confused between communism and capitalism.

[NamerOfStars]

We didn't- the US and the USSR did. The World Wars saw every remaining empire imploded or torn apart, save the US, the Soviets, the UK, and Portugal, and the latter had their empires crumble apart soon anyway.

The massive conflict of the Cold War actually WAS primarily about differences in political and economic philosophy (which is unusual for a war), but don't think the desire for hegemony and wealth didn't play a part. Stalinist Communism can't survive without constant expansionism, and greedy assholery is pretty much the heart of capitalism.

The Soviet leadership couping against Gorbachev (head of the USSR) and not Yeltsin (President of Russia) was the mistake that finally let Gorby open things up and be upfront and honest with the Soviety citizenry. He fervently, genuinely believed in Communism, and also that if the people were honestly informed, they'd stick with it. His faith in the people was well-founded; in Communism, less so- one by one, countries bailed on the USSR, until by Christmas of '91, Gorbachev was Premier of a Union that consisted only of him.

Russia was reduced to being a regional power, which is what it remains to this day- it's just a really, REALLY big region. Gorbachev is a much more controversial figure in Russia; he brought freedom, but at the cost of power. Putin naturally wants a return of Russian power and prestige, and apparently doesn't know of any ways to achieve that beyond the traditional "build a mountain of skulls", that isn't going to work any better now than it did for the Mongols.

[StarWarGirl]

So this is how Europe Cheated* Russia...

[NamerOfStars]

@StarWarGirl Well, no; they left the USSR because they were sick of its brutal oppression.

[StarWarGirl]

You are telling about recent things I was discussing about history how it all got started and all. And yes a communist society needs very much government control so sometimes power get imbalance and things happen. But that's their personal matter. Question was about why their is enemity between US and Russia. Ok, even if we accept that Russia was oppressive but why US got involved into that war? What give it that authority? Can anyone get involve in war without personal motive? Do you think it's possible?

[NamerOfStars]

@StarWarGirl The US didn't get involved in any wars between the component states of the USSR and its central government; just in those between countries the Soviets were invading (officially or otherwise) and the USSR. They did pretty much the same thing the countries the US was invading, too- not quite as rigidly, but then, they didn't have the money to.

The US got involved in those wars because no one else could possibly stop the Soviets; we were the only other superpower left.

[StarWarGirl]

That's typical American mentality that "we are superpowers" and "we do things for world's greater good". But in reality politics are never like this. And US is also plays same politics and do things just because of some personal motives. Just like any other countries.

[DarkLegacy]

Because both wanted to be the most powerful. to be honest things would have been ok if the USA had not come along. They want to own the world and anyone that rivals them on anything, they resort to lies, deception, blackmail fraud etc to turn the world against them.

As soon as the USA got the bomb, Russia wanted it to but the USA thought they could tell them otherwise. Eventually they turned against each other because both were bent on world domination and never are going to succeed. They are both to scared to fight each other and instead resort to proxy wars by attacking each others weaker allies.

The same thing is happening with China, they were on our side once but once again the USA bent on world domination turned people against them. Lucky China have it covered and so does your country if they get there act together.

[RoronoaZoro8]

The rivalry between the United States and the Soviet Union (which later became Russia after the collapse of the USSR) during the Cold War emerged from ideological, political, and strategic differences. The two nations represented contrasting systems - capitalism and democracy in the US, and communism in the USSR. This ideological divide fueled conflicts and competition for influence globally, leading to the arms race, proxy wars, and geopolitical tensions that defined much of the 20th century.

[Asker]

I think It's fine and normal to have different ideologies. But I think they shouldn't be enemies. I know it's a sensitive topic.

Russia and USA, don't have border issue, religion issue but they still hate each other.

[RebelinSteel]

The Russians at the end of WW2 refusing to move out of territory, of creating a soviet bloc.

the short version is Stalin.

The longer version is down to ideological differences, democracy v communism. The Korean War, the spread and influence of communism in the emerging countries post WW2, the Russian stance on Germany and other countries it took over at the end of WW2.

[handsomelad70]

After the 1917 Russian Revolution when murderous then-Soviet dictator Josef Stalin tried to export Communism to the West (and the rest of the world), which the newly nascent USA ruled with its great capitalist economy.(However,"Uncle Joe" briefly became an American ally, though a far from trusted one during World War Two to help America and the other Allied Powers crush German Naziism.) This alliance ended after World War II when Stalin's genocidal perfidy came to light, causing the Cold War (which nearly became hot with the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis) which lasted until the "Evil Empire's" 1991 implosion.

[Anonymous]

Rival interests in eastern Europe.

Russia is weak and ripe for the plundering. The cold war didn't end in 1990, the US has taken Eastern Europe and is coming for the rest of Russia, Ukraine is Russia's last stand.

[In_Trance]

Because that's how the story has been scripted in mass media. It's literally the WWE with guys in suits instead of unitards