When you are angry, your "truth" comes out. So it is bull most of the time when people say they don't mean what they say or think when angry.
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Yes, I absolutely agree. They're just trying to make themselves look better when they're lying.
I have an ex friend who thought right away when his than girlfriend (now wife) couldn't get welfare,"those dam illegals could get welfare but Becca can't." He said he wasn't being hateful. Bull huh?
He was being hateful, he just didn't want to admit it.
He wasn't like that before moving to Florida. He is from California, he moved to Florida than Ohio. Do you want me to tell you other things He has done?
Maybe he was always like that but you didn't realize.
Yes, tell me please.
My ex friend since a certain amount of months after he moved in October or November 2016 he started playing a lot of games of ignoring or taking forever to respond to text messages, phone calls, Facebook messages, Facebook video call requests, etc. Everytime I brought it up he made dumb excuses. My dumbass put up with it. I remember around 2019-2021 said he thought people who go to strip clubs are bad people and same with people who have pre marital sex but he doesn't think I am a bad person for having done it and still kept on doing it cause he knows I always wanted a girlfriend. More red flags with that and in denial with how he feels towards me and obviously only making an exception cause of our friendship. Than around 2020-2021, he hit me up first (which rarely happened since a couple of months after he moved) asking for me to move in with him and his than girlfriend (became wife) to Ohio. During that time he responded well and made more time for everything. When I decided no, he started playing the same games. And he lied saying the reason he wants me to move in with him is cause he misses hanging out (when it obviously mainly was for money due to him playing so many games). Around 2020-2021 he admitted to me that he supported Trump once he moved to Florida and voted for him in 2020. He than said"it is like I became a different person when I moved." He than said the example of how he feels about illegal immigration (with the example I told you). He said he still dislikes Trump like he always had but just likes certain policĂes about him. Than last year I confronted him in July about why he took 4 months to respond to a text message (I sent him an angry voice message).
He than responded"I admit I should of been in more contact with you since I started doing that stuff a couple of months after I moved, but you are a whore monger (obviously referring to me going to strip clubs and hooking up with women) and you don't see bringing that up constantly, I think it is time we stop being friends, all you have done is judged me since I moved." He than brought up how I always have been a bad Catholic and haven't changed but he became a better Christian. The irony is he is bringing up my sins, yet he sinned with attempting to manipulate (lie, about why he wants me to move with him) that is an evil sin, yet he thinks he is a better Christianity sect person (he is Christian). He also used me helping his mom. I forgot to tell you that. My dumbass said yes (I am a dumbass because of how he treated me and because his mom treated me bad a lot) after he hit me up first. He made time faster and replied fine but once I stopped helping her due to an argument, he played the same games.
No offense but he sucks. He was never your friend. It seems like he used you.
I wouldn't be surprised if you heard about things he said about you behind your back.
He's lying about Trump, he agrees with him and likes him. He just doesn't want to admit it. Perhaps he thought that would ruin your friendship but he ended up doing himself.
Besides he has no reason to judge you when he does worse things.
Yeah he did use me for one thing (with his mom) and attempted with the moving in too. I know for sure he cared about me when he was here in Cali when we began being good friends (sophmore year of High School or Freshman year of High School) to the first couple of months he moved. He changed sometime like December of 2016 or early 2017(months later after he moved in October or November of 2016). We started being good friends around 2006 or 2007. He reported me to the office in High School when I said I wanted to commit suicide (I lied about it, but I was still sad around that time). Sometime after High School was over, he started crying when drunk saying how concerned he was with me saying I wanted to unalive myself back in High School. So he did care for me a ton. He just changed when he moved. He dealt with a lot of shit in his life and he was an easy target to become a Trump supporter once being surrounded by them once he moved to Florida (I know it is no excuse but I am just saying why I think he easily became a Trump supporter). I remember how he couldn't stand him and we even talked in November of 2016 when he won. He told me on the phone from Florida,(I lost hope in humanity even more). He changed sometime in the months ahead because that is when he started playing games. So I know for sure he didn't suck all that time I told you until he started playing games. Do you still think he sucked always or do you believe me how I told you he didn't always suck since he reported me in High School, cried for me, etc? And also before he changed he would be against the acts of premartial sex and strip clubs but not the people who do that stuff and attend strip clubs. He would also have no problem communicating with those people.
Around 2013 or 2014 when he was just in an online relationship with Becca (he was still in Cali obviously) I continued to tell him to look at women's asses, etc in Walmart or wherever but I never told him to flirt, etc. with the women and he did tell me always to stop (I admit it I shouldn't have done it once they became boyfriend/girlfriend) and I continued with comments like that when he moved, BUT I stopped eventually around 2020-2022 yet he brought it up in the argument last July, calling me an adulterer for that. He either forgot that I apologized and stopped doing that or he doesn't care. And then he went weird mode and said that I tried to make him fail with his religion but I didn't succeed. He then said"I changed a lot when I moved to Florida Steven, I grew as a person, people change as they get older, it seems that you didn't change." He then says how he prays for my salvation. He thinks he is a better person than me clearly. But it is weird how he went bipolar Mode from time to time since he started playing those games. He said how I am a good friend a lot of times yet was doing all that shit. And he admitted to me in 2022 that in 2021 he was about to commit suicide but he couldn't do it. He admitted to me that during one of the times I confronted him about taking forever to respond. So he goes all over the place with many things. All types of reasons why he started playing games, he says he is busy, he fears we are different in politics, he was mad I decided not to move with him and Becca from Florida to Ohio in 2021, and than he says about the suicide thoughts. He says how I have been such a good friend always and never did anything wrong.
Please read and reply when you have a chance.
I read everything.
Well, something happened for sure. It seems that he actually cared about you before moving to Florida. You're right, perhaps he was affected by the fact that there are a lot of Trump supporters in Florida. However, he can think for himself. Either way, you said he was an easy target so maybe that's why he changed so much.
I'm sorry to hear that you thought about committing suicide when you were younger. I'm glad you're not thinking about it anymore.
I guess the big problem here is you guys having different political opinions and you not moving with him and Becca. I suppose he can't get past that.
Do you believe in him when he says you're a good friend and you did nothing wrong?
I think the main reasons before were a combination of politic beliefs and also the strip club and pre marital sex thing is why he started many times ignoring, taking forever to respond, etc. but than later on after he told me around 2020-2021 about him being a Trump supporter and I told him that doesn't matter, he said"ok it was just in my head." It is obvious the pre marital sex thing and sex thing never went away since he started ignoring, etc. The Trump thing during the argument last July he said,"I meant what I said that it was all in my head we can't be friends cause of difference of politics. So to sum things up, I can tell for sure it was the pre marital sex, etc (which is no big deal if I do that and strip clubs when I always have been single and still am, and for him to think someone is a bad person for that and not want to communicate with them for that is being a prick and makes him a prick. Also with him bringing up how he got mad how I told him to look at women's asses and continued with sexual stuff when he moved (when I STOPPED eventually for good around 2020-2022) is a prick move too unless he forgot. And with him getting mad at me for not moving in with him and Becca is a using thing since how he treated me with ignoring, etc. He got mad he couldn't use me for money clearly and lied to me obviously saying the main reason he wants me to move in with him is cause he misses hanging out. So mainipulated me with trying to get me to move in with him and also used me regarding his mom. So he is a piece of shit user and attempted user (regarding attempting to use me for money). I have always been a good person to most people. He is an asshole for not appreciating me anymore certain months after he moved.
I think it is not my loss losing him as a friend because he attempted to use me regarding trying to get me to move in with him mainly or only for money, him ignoring me, etc. being an asshole for thinking people who are even single who do sexual things are bad people and don't want to communicate with them, and for him being a racist asshole. It is his loss because I have always been a good friend, etc. He says "it is not my loss losing you as a friend and I am not going to miss anything." But it is his loss regardless if he realizes or not. What do you think of everything?
Please respond when you have a chance.
I think you're better off without him. He did everything that a friend shouldn't do. He showed his true colors. If he was a real friend, he wouldn't use you. He wouldn't say things that bother you in front of you.
If he really missed hanging out with you, he would reach you out. It seems like he only criticizes you.
I honestly think it's his loss, not yours. You'll make better friends.
Last questions. Do you think it is obviously not true how he became a better person and grew? I think he became a worse person and didn't grow at all. He became an asshole. He was a nice guy before. He is delusional.
Thanks for what you say by the way.
By the way are you Latina? I am asking cause your name is Menina?
And if you think he grew as a person, etc I won't get mad, just be honest.
No, I don't think he grew nor that he became a better person. I agree with you, he became a worse person. He didn't grow at all, as you said.
No, I'm not Latina, menina is just my username. It's not my real name.
You're welcome. I understand that you just wanted to vent.
@menina it sucks in my whole life so far how many people screwed me over when I was nice but at the same time there have been many people that didn't screw me over and appreciated my niceness forever. I will never change though. By the way I forgot to tell you how I told Jacob last July towards the end of the text messages"if you feel so strongly about lust, pre marital sex, consider just glancing at women sexually that is not your romantic partner cheating, than it is weird how you want to shake Trump's hand, go to his rally's, etc. if you don't want to communicate, etc. with people who lust." He cheated on numerous wives, had premartial sex, etc." Jacob is a hypocrite. Also he told me how any other friend he would have cut off years ago for the same stuff I did (He could have cut me off late 2016 or early 2017 when he changed if it wasn't for our history). Yet around 2020-2022 I remember him telling me he jacks off to porn once a day. So he is a hypocrite for that, yet calls me a cheater for telling him (a taken man) to look at women's asses (but never telling him to get involved romantically or sexually with those women). Like I told you before I stopped with that around 2020-2022 yet he brings it up last July like he forgot or doesn't care. He is mad about what I did yet jacked off to other women. Big hypocrite for many things.
@menina what do you think of how many people treated me nice but at the same time many other people treated me badly?
I agree with you, he's an hypocrite. I suppose that those who treated you nicely liked you and those who didn't, didn't like you.