So…still think the billionaires need protection?

[OddBeMe]

No tax increases! Protect their billions!

[SotiCoto]

Passive income should be illegal. Investment for profit should be illegal. Companies shouldn't have the right to own things as though they were people. And millionaires or anything above that should be taxed at a 100% rate until they cease to be so.

Nobody needs to be rich. Capitalism needs to die.

[RedInnocent69]

@SotiCoto then nothing would get done, ever.

[SotiCoto]

@RedInnocent69 : People did things before capitalism. They'd still do things after capitalism. Heck, even trade... but it could actually be fair if the proceeds weren't all being funnelled to the top of a toxic organisation.

[RedInnocent69]

No, they didn’t.

[exitseven]

@SotiCoto I need to be rich

[DrPepper12]

Fuck the oligarchy. Tax them at working class levels. Idc how hard it is cuz of their asset types. The IRS has to get creative and aggressive with these monopolistic pricks!

[RedInnocent69]

Billionaires need to pat their fare share. Most don’t. Their effective tax rates are lower than, for example, teachers, because they have the resources to pay accountants and lawyers to structure their income and take advantage of loopholes.

[exitseven]

I would rather see a few billionaires get a tax break than squander billions on illegal aliens.

[msc545]

Yes, because billionaires are so much more moral and commit so many fewer crimes than a few illegal aliens. Who will you vilify when Trump is finally in prison?

[exitseven]

@msc545 Billionaires usually work hard to make their fortune.
biden;s army just shows up at the border and sticks their hand out.

[msc545]

Yes, like Trump worked so hard for his huge inheritance. Right.

[msc545]

Nobody gets a billion dollars for being an immigrant.

[OddBeMe]

Illegals don’t get welfare either dumbass.

[exitseven]

@msc545 The federal government spent a half a trillion dollars supporting illegal aliens in 2023. The cities and states spent several billion as well.

[msc545]

Evidence?

[exitseven]

@msc545 This is just what they will admit to. I would not be surprised if it is twices as much.
nypost.com/.../

[msc545]

Well yes - you want to keep policing the hell out of these people - it isn't free.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven Incorrect. The cost of us overreacting and building a stupid wall is costing us half a trillion.

Actual cost of illegals is negated by their economic input to the economy. They pay taxes and get shit for it.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe If the wall was competed and remain in mexico wane left in place the wall would have paid for itself many times over by now. Going forward it is estimated it will cost up to a trillion dollars over the next ten years to send them all back. Still a bargain at twice the price.

[Juxtapose]

Elon Musk should consider getting protection since he is a threat to the deep state with his pro free speech stances.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Lol good one

[Juxtapose]

If you don't think the deep state hates pro free speech advocates who can't be bought? You haven't been paying attention in my opinion.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

... what do you think "the deep state" is?

[Juxtapose]

@GOLDFISH_smile easy!

Typically unelected bureaucrats in powerful positions in the intelligence agencies. CIA is a big one.

The deep state is also composed of multinational corporations that have bought their way into the government such as Black Rock.

[Juxtapose]

If you would like to hear more about them, Glenn Greenwald is an award-winning journalist who is an awesome source about this.

theintercept.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

No need to dick suck a journalist if his info is good. And journalists aren’t the source. They report the source.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

You think organizations like the CIA, or Black Rock, are threatened by Elon Musk's Twitter policies? Fr like ur NOT joking?

[OddBeMe]

@GOLDFISH_smile only in threatening their own propaganda. But don’t be fooled, Elon is a propagandist.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

@OddBeMe musk is just pissed his kids don't talk to him anymore. It's sad. He's trying so hard to be cool and get people he thinks are cool to like him.

[OddBeMe]

@GOLDFISH_smile I don't know, but the only “deep state” are the billionaires who pay scotus justices 4mill just before they hear their cases. And Juxy is ok with those deep staters.

[Juxtapose]

@GOLDFISH_smile yes, for real. These evil people can't execute their plans without brainwashing the public. Free speech is a huuuuge obstacle to brainwashing the common folk.

[Juxtapose]

The government literally worked with the old twitter to censor people on the government's behalf. They are evil and unconsitional.

[Juxtapose]

*unconstitutional

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Wow then it must be scary for the deep state that Twitter is fucking dying huh? Maybe they'll step in to help it, or make their own social media platform like Facebook or tiktok (well not tiktok bc the actual government is trying to ban that lol) or Instagram or something.

[Juxtapose]

@GOLDFISH_smile Elon is an adversary to the deep state because he can't be bought.

[Juxtapose]

He doesn't help the government censor anyone.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

He censors Twitter. There's words he says will get you in trouble bc they're hate speech.

[Juxtapose]

@GOLDFISH_smile like?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Cis and cisgender lol. He thinks they're slurs.

[Juxtapose]

@GOLDFISH_smile I don't think slurs should be blocked, even the "n-word". The only restricted speech should be any that breaks laws and only blocked for relevant countries.

Elon isn't perfect but he's an improvement.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Why is it an improvement to ban cis instead of the n word? Would actually unpunished uncensored all kinds of speech be the real improvement to you?

[Juxtapose]

"Would improvement to ban cis instead of the n word? Would actually unpunished uncensored all kinds of speech be the real improvement to you?"

Yes, absolutely. No restrictions unless it's a threat, libel, standard legal stuff in America.

[Juxtapose]

*Why is it an improvement

[Juxtapose]

I DESPISE censorship.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Wait no that can't be right. By that logic u would think musk is worse bc he still bans some words that aren't illegal, and stopped banning things like libel and threats that are illegal and were banned b4... sorry I must have misread, what did u mean fr?

[Juxtapose]

Elon > previous ownership because he restricts LESS overall.

I hate censorship, even private companies shouldn't be able to censor in most cases.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

So you don't care if illegal things like libel and threats are censored. Okay good I just wanted to double check bc it seemed like u did for a second lol.

[Juxtapose]

You're right 👍

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose Proof of govt and twitter conspiring? I’ll wait.

[Juxtapose]

Twitter files homie.

x.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394?lang=en

[OddBeMe]

My god…a twitter link. Must be true.

[Juxtapose]

"Fuck, I am proven wrong.. better poison the well and pretend X automatically makes all information there magically incorrect even though the source is reliable. Too bad it wasn't from MSNBC Jux, hahaha!"

[OddBeMe]

No I asked for evidence and what you gave me were tweets. All by one guy who writes for Yahoo. Which you’ve attacked as a source.

[Juxtapose]

I never attacked Yahoo.

I did give you evidence but you refused to look at it cus you're scared.

[OddBeMe]

You didn’t. You gave me a tweet with no links or any real info. As I said, I looked up the journalist and his “twitter files” and didn’t find much there. If anything it’s overzealous PR guys in politican comm offices.

[Juxtapose]

Again..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

You like Wikipedia so there you go.

[Juxtapose]

That's a huge fucking scandal they uncovered and if you're just going to brush it off it reveals you with someone who is utterly unserious.

[Juxtapose]

*are someone who is

[Juxtapose]

Although actually the way Wikipedia reports it really tries to play it down when in reality it's a huge story that proves the collaboration of the government with the old Twitter. You cannot, as the government, encourage any private entity to censor somebody in your behalf.

[OddBeMe]

Your link: “A major aspect of the examination surrounded false assertions by Musk and others that Twitter had been ordered by the government to help presidential candidate Joe Biden}

[Juxtapose]

Like I said, Twitter files. You're doing everything possible to avoid talking about it.

[OddBeMe]

This is crazy…your own link says in black and white, copy pasted: “A major aspect of the examination surrounded false assertions by Musk and others that Twitter had been ordered by the government to help presidential candidate Joe Biden.”

False assertions

[Juxtapose]

That's just Wikipedia being bullshit. The only part of that article that was worth shit was the part I actually quoted. The rest is far left propaganda.

[Juxtapose]

It's a fact that the government conspire with the old Twitter to censor people on the right. You look pretty stupid denying it.

[Juxtapose]

*conspired

[OddBeMe]

So now you don’t beleive your own proof? SHOW ME EVIDENCE OF TWITTER CONSPIRING

[Juxtapose]

Twitter files homie.

[OddBeMe]

Imagine Plato, Hegel and Nietzsche arguing in heaven and one asks for proof…
”Twitter files homie”.
“Can you show me something about that?”
“Here’s a link”
“Your own link disproves your claim”
“It’s just the link being bullshit”
“So what’s your evidence?”
“Twitter files homie.”

I can’t imagine it either. Because they wouldn’t be that shameful.

[Juxtapose]

Wikipedia is not the source you fucking dumbass!

[OddBeMe]

The content of it then. You linked to an article that proved Twitter wasn’t conspiring with the government. Right?

[Juxtapose]

No, the government was conspiring. It's been proven regardless of what the Wikipedia article says beyond the first paragraph.

[Juxtapose]

Actually look at the Twitter files and look at the evidence they present you instead of being purposely dense.

[OddBeMe]

What Twitter files?

[OddBeMe]

How about NPR?
www.npr.org/.../elon-musk-is-using-the-twitter-files-to-discredit-foes-and-push-conspiracy-theor

[Anonymous]

Are you saying these guys didn't earn heir success? Are you that ignorant? I'm not saying they shouldn't pay a lot more taxes than everyone else, but your rhetoric is super dishonest.

[msc545]

Inheriting money or being given money as a gift is NOT the same as earning it, IDIOT.

[Opinion Owner]

@msc545 Jeff Bezos got a loan for $300k and turned it into $200 billion. Are you really stupid enough to think he got a loan? Come on bro.

[Opinion Owner]

Are you really stupid enough to think he had that success just because he got a loan?

[msc545]

Without the loan he would not have gotten it. Sucess needs to begin somewhere.

[Opinion Owner]

@msc545 Do you know how many people get a loan with grand ambitions and fail anyway? People like Bezos find a way to succeed, no matter what. People like you find a way to fail and then blame people like Bezos. Fucking pathetic.

[msc545]

I have no idea how many and that is beside the point. Do you?

[OddBeMe]

Yes Bezos was successful because of his parents “lending” him 300k in 1998 or whenever. Doesn’t mean he didn’t do incredible things. But as a business owner who had loans, it’s everything.

[msc545]

He had a good idea. I've had a few too - but nobody loaned me any money. I'm not even a millionaire.

[Opinion Owner]

"But as a business owner who had loans, it’s everything." Nope, it actually meant virtually nothing for Bezos.

Do you know how many hundreds of thousands of people and startups have that kind of funding available to them early on in their careers, and they still end up failing? It's actually very easy to get if you have a good idea and half a brain sell it with. Bezos would have never had any success without those two things, just like you never will, even if $300K fell in your lap.

But don't worry too much about any of this. It's obvious neither of you have the mental capacity or the mindset to make any success in your lives. You should just go on working at Wendy's with no vision for making your life better, and of course whining about how only people with the "privilege" of a Jeff Bezos or Warren Buffet can possibly be successful in life. Never mind the fact that thousands of people who have more brains and ambitions than you do make a successful path in life every day. The only difference between the and you is you lack of brains and ambition, and you cowardice about taking risks and big steps. People like you have always existed, and have always been failure.

But yeah, I get it. It's soooo much easier to blame the "injustices" of the world for your failures.

[msc545]

No, it is easier to blame injustice on the greed of people like you. Enjoy the guillotine when you encounter it finally.

[gorydetails]

Awe, you’re so jealous.

[Anonymous]

Sure, needed to cull the liberals