So…who’s worse in this Presidential election?

[OddBeMe]

We have the 80+ yr old Biden. Stumbles. Physically and verbally.
Trump- fraud convicted, sexual assaulter
and RFK Jr, who believes in ethnically targeting bio weapons. Maybe Jewish space lasers.

[msc545]

Trump is worse, followed closely by Kennedy, who is delusional. Biden has gross motor problems and perhaps some memory issues, but is not nearly as disabled as Trump or Kennedy. NONE OF THEM are good choices.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah.. I don’t like being ageist, but like driving- running a country needs a clearer mind.

[goaded]

Who rides a bike and who rides a golf cart?

[exitseven]

Biden is a forgetful old man. He coiuld not even shine President Trump's shoes. Trump has been put through a show trial and still can campaign tirelessly filling stadiums and making TV appearances.. America can see the contrast.

[Alex-Snow]

@goaded Great reply!!!

[Alex-Snow]

@exitseven Seven I respectfully disagree with you. Trump is unfit to b e a president... the list of his issues is too long to list here. Look we will not change each others minds so maybe we should just move on.

[Alex-Snow]

@exitseven Seven IF Trump was a Democrat and Biden a GOPer who would u vote for?

[handsomelad70]

@exitseven Trump fills his stadia with brain-dead lemmings.

[goaded]

@handsomelad70 They can't be that brain dead, lots of them leave while he's talking.

[RedInnocent69]

RFK is a spoiler, not a serious candidate. Trump also stumbles verbally. His stump speeches are increasingly becoming more incoherent. Not sure whether he wants to ban batteries, boats, or sharks…

[goaded]

Maybe he was making the point that the boat's batteries would kill all the sharks before they could eat you? Sounds like a safety feature!

[handsomelad70]

Baby Bobby is a racist conspiracy nut unworthy of the legacy his surname carries.

[MisterWack]

I’m a former Trump supporter and I have seen the road then travelled some more now I reach this crossroad between Trump, RFK Jr, and Biden.

Let me be clear, RFK Jr. has years of environmental care, also years of controversy via racist, incentive, empty handed remarks also actions that I do not in any way shape or form endorse…. Even his own family took a group photo at the Biden Administration’s White House for St. Patricks Day then showed up to a rally to fully support & encourage people to vote for VP Kamala Harris and President Biden for another 4 years in The White House. Even RFK Jr’s “No Labels” party leader endorsed President Biden too after Joe Biden won the Democratic Nomination in the primaries.

President Trump had a history of controversial proposals and controversial actions while being Commander In Chief. Deregulations of corporations, repealed financial & environmental protections, his tax cuts helped the richest Americans more than the average worker, accepting a million dollar LIV Golf Deal from his time in office to utilize for his organization, hosting world leaders at Trump Tower and charging them per night, charging the Secret Service while staying per night at the Trump Tower, NOT reporting on Presidential gifts and NOT handing them to govt authorities (a giant portrait of him gifted from Saudi Arabia I think), proposed bringing back Asbestos, claiming injecting bleach would cure Covid19, got rid of Obama’s Pandemic Plan in 2018 which said that the next pandemic would be China caused by bats from deforestation also the best way to protect is masks, charged people $2 million each for pardons to split with Rudy Gulliani, etc.

President Biden took Trump’s best 2016 proposals and did them unlike the predecessor: Infrastructure, Afghan pullout, Veteran Benefits via Pact Act, Record Job Growth & Investment via Chips and Science Act also Infrastructure Act, etc.

In 2020 President Biden proposed & delivered: Free masks, free tests, Covid19 relief package, American Rescue Plan, increase funding to the IRS, support our allies, expansions to Affordable Care Act / Obamacare, bring children separated at the border back to their families, etc.

President Trump since losing the election of 2020 decided to not concede as the founders intended also to uphold his oath of office “against all enemies foreign and domestic”, decided to push his supporters to attack and or threaten local election officials simply doing their job then leading a vicious mob onto the Capitol building in Washington DC chanting, “Hang Mike Pence!”… After leaving office, Trump has been found to have kept upwards of 300 documents from the National Archives, lost countless courtroom battles such as being found GUILTY on 34 counts of falsifying business records, pushing the same lies as before, and continuing to stop America from moving forward… President Biden proposed Fentanyl detectors at the Southern Border and Trump got his MAGA politicians to block that bill, President Biden closed down the border as promised in that same proposal that Trump struck down.

Look, President Biden might be slower than he once was and less competent however looking at the alternative really makes you think. If this “incompetent” old folk can get things done and find solutions outside of partisan BS then maybe President Biden is our President to finish his full 8 year term.

[handsomelad70]

Wait 'til Joe's in a nursing home in 2026.

[MisterWack]

@handsomelad70 🤣 good one, love that! God Bless you and God keep you.
As long as he wins idc what happens after tbh with you if I’m speaking serious since Biden has done a lot of things that I wished Trump would’ve done also should’ve done then Biden additionally was able to put up proposals that worked for our country which would’ve kept not only my vote, but my family’s & friends’. Point is, there is an easy choice to make this year than in 2020 and the stakes are the highest they’ve been from what I saw, the nation saw, and the world as a whole saw.

[exitseven]

@MisterWack you really picked a good name for yourself. most of what you wrote is wack. It looks like the NY Times.

[MisterWack]

@exitseven
I mean, I’m happy that my name fits. I was being sincere though, I used to support Trump because of the policies in 2016 made him look more approachable / more electable than Hillary Clinton who frankly just gave the vibe “I can beat him easily and I’ll be the first female president, why should I try to win voters & tell them policies?” I still hate Hillary Clinton. I think Hunter Biden is guilty and should spend years behind bars same with Donald Trump’s guilty verdict behind bars.
Truly the person I support most in this 2024 line up is President Joesph R. Biden.

[exitseven]

@MisterWack If I really wanted to I could dispute most of what you wrote about President Trump as complete rubbish. Truly it is filled with lies and things that never happened. Also all the tings that Biden has done that you think are so great did not help one single American citizen except maybe the Big Guy and his crooked family.

[MisterWack]

@exitseven
Listen, I’m a former Trump supporter. We can have differing opinions however everything I wrote was based on everything I saw, heard, researched and more. If Trump kept his 2016 promises that Biden completely did, didn’t claim an election was stolen when it wasn’t also didn’t send a mob onto the Capitol then YEAH! I would support him and kiss hiss asshole however that isn’t the reality we live in. You need to accept the facts.

[handsomelad70]

OK, but Biden is living off his boss Obama's economy and unlike Trump, didn't enact sweeping tax cuts for the wealthy which would have tanked the U. S. economy.

[MisterWack]

@handsomelad70
His tax cuts did help the wealthy more than the average American though. Households with incomes in the top 1 percent will receive an average tax cut of more than $60,000 in 2025, compared to an average tax cut of less than $500 for households in the bottom 60 percent, according to the Tax Policy Center (TPC). In a different proposal by Trump, Workers who earned less than about $114,000 on average in 2016 saw “no change in earnings” from the corporate tax rate cut, while top executive salaries increased sharply. Similarly, rigorous research concluded that the tax law’s 20 percent pass-through deduction, which was skewed in favor of wealthy business owners, has largely failed to trickle down to workers. Complete total BS.
P. S. When the pandemic was tanking economic numbers, Trump did shovel money into the stock market to make it look like the economy was doing well which failed. “It is what it is”. “This is more deadly than your strenuous flus”, “I always played it down… I didn’t want to create a panic.” He was more focused on how he looked in public view in terms of money during America’s darkest hours instead of the loss of human life.
I’m a former Trump supporter who hated Hillary Clinton, put this man into control, now I regret the decision while also saying Hillary was a bad choice only out for herself. Hunter Biden was found guilty and I want him to go to prison just like Trump, Trump is guilty on the same crime Michael Cohen was guilty for just a different aspect of it. I would never endorse him as POTUS especially for January 6th. He is a disgrace.

[DrPepper12]

I'll take the stumbler with a stutter. Even is he a "cognitive mess" as conservative media says every 1.3 seconds, he's a man of good character, a pious man, a man who knows love and loss, a man who is self deprecating, a man who knows generosity, empathy and sincerity. That plus he has chosen countless able advisors, not sycophantic yes men. Yeah, it's a from Biden for me.

[Baxter392]

Always you old boomer democrats mfkas. Every 4 years these niggas beg for my vote, then disappear until the next election. Nothing gets done.

Republicans are no better. They sold out the conservative blacks whites Asians and latinos too

A Revolution for all of DC politicians is what I want. Our time for talking about it has passed. Its time to pull out the torches and pitchforks, wood choppers, guns, and guillotines

[MisterWack]

Well said man, well said.

[DrPepper12]

@Baxter392 boomer? You can be serious but you're MAGA so I repeat myself.

May I suggest a constitutional convention before you light those torches?

[handsomelad70]

@Baxter392 What n***as? Crooked black "ministers?"

[4ngelic]

trump but the other two options are not that far off. honestly when will we have actually good candidates...

[OddBeMe]

Why is a convict better? Serisously asking.

[4ngelic]

i said trump was worse..

[OddBeMe]

Oh my bad. I forgot the format of my own Q.

[DrPepper12]

When we throw out the Constitution and start over

[handsomelad70]

To quote my mother, when you Yanks get off your rusty dusty and stop voting for the bosses' boys and girls.

[handsomelad70]

@DrPepper12 Can you imagine the nutjobs who'll surface if American had a long-overdue Constitutional Convention?

[DrPepper12]

@handsomelad70 I know but it's the only way. This current framework is stasis by design and simply cannot accommodate a modern nation. NO ONE would intentionally design this clusterfuck today. The inherent problem is the federal government is a creation of the 13 states. Why couldn't they have adopted a parliamentary system? (Rhetorical - ik the answers)

[handsomelad70]

@DrPepper12 Which is why America needs to sunder into different areas and perhaps groups. One-third-of-a-billion citizens under your political setup is untenable, especially under today's total dysfunction.

[handsomelad70]

@DrPepper12 The parliamentary system-ours-isn't that hot. A party which wins a majority of Parliamentary seats has a virtual dictatorship (somewhat lessened by our courts and Constitution) until the next election, which can wait for five years.

[DrPepper12]

@handsomelad70 yes but it the center instead if the fringes rule. Even though it is kinda dictatorial for a period at least shit gets done.

[DrPepper12]

@handsomelad70 preach!!!

[OddBeMe]

Are you guys imagining some Constitutional Convention NOT sponsored by corporations? It’d be Christmas for them.

[handsomelad70]

You'd have to disinvite the corporations;they've done enough to ruin America.

[DrPepper12]

Do you see another way out of this suicide pact? We would need public campaign finance before the convention. They made it INSANELY difficult to amend so that's not an option. Im open to suggestions.

[ananias55]

Trump. Lately he's been mumbling nonsense. Like jumping in the ocean with a battery or a shark. He seems to be losing it and rambles over boring and useless stuff.
Not to mention he's a criminal who showed no remorse for his crimes.
He's a narcissist and I refuse to feed his ego.

[OddBeMe]

Then why do you want him to be president?

[handsomelad70]

My late sister Karen, who passed away Aug.11,2018, told me that Trump was babbling nonsense throughout the 2016 campaign, and he's eight years older-he'll be 78 tomorrow, June 14-and even loonier.

[DrPepper12]

Lately? he's been tossing word salads since the 80s!

[dustybiker2]

Not really hard to choose when all laid out like that. Neither are fit to run a country club yet a country though..

[OddBeMe]

You’re not wrong. But somehow there still is a better choice…

[Anonymous]

Biden and Trump are both equally bad. My vote will be going to Kennedy, not the perfect candidate, by way better then Biden and Trump together. FYI, that video clip? Kennedy was referencing a COVID study, and said he could make the argument. We have the ability to manufacture pesticides that target certain pest, no doubt we have the ability to produce bio weapons that can target certain ethnic groups.

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01673-z

[OddBeMe]

Right, he just beleives in ethic targeting bio weapons that the Jews are creating.
https://studio.youtube.com/video/cRxVFVEHnwE/edit

[OddBeMe]

https://youtu.be/cRxVFVEHnwE

[DrPepper12]

They are NOT equally bad. Thats insane. Trump is a threat to democracy and the intl order.

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 Actually they are both equally, the problem is both voters on the left and right are too blind to see. I can make the argument, Biden and Democrats are more of a threat to Democracy then then Trump as they are actively filing lawsuits in multiple states to keep Kennedy off the ballot. Maybe if Democrats would quit rigging their primary for shitty candidates no one wants, they wouldn't have to worry about losing votes to 3rd party candidates.

[DrPepper12]

Ok. "rigging" is probs not a word you whould be using.

[Opinion Owner]

@DrPepper12 Rigging is exactly the word I'm using. DNC has done everything from changing primary rules to protect Biden to keeping everyone off the ballot except Biden. This isn't the first time the DNC has rigged their primary, they rigged both the 2016 and 2020 primary to prevent Sanders from getting the nomination. Their is a lot of proof the 2016 primary was rigged, Chicago is one good example. During the audit of voting machines, witnesses, witnessed election officials erasing Sanders votes and adding Hillary votes so the hand counted audit results would match the voting machine results.
youtu.be/OSNTauWPkTc?si=_SdVBncVssL210pc&t=1433

[Avicenna]

You've left out Biden's sexual assault, groping of young children, and showering with his minor daughter. And that doesn't even start to get into his corrupt influence peddling and the rest of the crimes him and his criminal family have committed.

[OddBeMe]

*checking actual data* nothing appears true.

[Avicenna]

Says the clueless clown who thinks all African-Americans are "packed into ghettoes".

[OddBeMe]

*checking* no, but black, communities are severely under funded. Not sure what that has to do with your claims on Biden. Still trying to dodge the logic eh?

[Avicenna]

Even after moving the goalposts, you're still say clueless things. And, by the way, anyone will tell you that "being packed into ghettoes" means something very different from "severely underfunded". You have no idea of what the real world is like, and you certainly don't read anything but propaganda sources that totally leaves you clueless.

Your corrupt hero Joe Biden is very unpopular despite having every elite institution in society covering for him. You recently showed your own absolute ignorance by trying to claim this old vegetable Joe Biden slayed inflation. Your own claim that something isn't true unless you've heard it from propaganda sources is as laughable as you are.

[OddBeMe]

Don’t remember saying “packed into ghettos”. As I’ve been studying the Holocaust, which would make it mean something else.

How am I moving the goal posts when you bring up shit competely irrelevant?

[DrPepper12]

You spelled Trump wrong

[handsomelad70]

Biden's a freaking creepster !!! Trump has his crime family.

[handsomelad70]

Seventeen percent of African Americans are poor, and close to SIXTY percent are middle class, with eight to ten percent upper middle-class to rich. Someone can't count or is in deep denial about their compatriots of colour.

[handsomelad70]

@DrPepper12 How 'bout "Drumpf," the original family name?

[Juxtapose]

No actually the diary was confirmed to be true.

www.google.com/.../664244e9e2704e77688b457e.html

[normalice]

Rfk os just trying to help Trump get elected. Fortunately he doesn't seem to be doing the best job of it but I suspect he will abruptly start moderating his stances as the election approaches.

[handsomelad70]

Baby Bobby doesn't care about Biden or Trump, just his quixotic conspiracy-filled "campaign."

[normalice]

Right, he has to put on that appearance, but as he only pays left/center media to shove his face in front of their audience, it is mostly only left/center people who would consider him for a protest vote. The only one who benefits is trump.

[handsomelad70]

Baby Bobby is old and ugly. NOBODY wants to see his dessicated mug.

[Alex-Snow]

I agree it is too bad that those are the only choices, that said I have to vote for country over party and will vote for anyone but Trump... he is unfit to be a president

[handsomelad70]

You folk are in this predicament because you let the overlords pick your DUMBOCRATIC and REPIGLIKSCAM Presidential candidates, and both crooked parties do nothing except further enrich the.000000000000001%

[Agape93]

So between an old as fuck child sniffer, a felonious chomo and a dude with brain damage

[handsomelad70]

Even "Baby" Bobby is 70 and Cornel West, for whom I would vote if I could, turned 71 June 2. Nice gerontocracy you Yanks have !!!

[Agape93]

The fuck are you even talking about? Stay on topic

[handsomelad70]

I'm talking about all the folk older than I running for President.(Trump, Biden, Baby Bobby, who's six months younger than I, Cornel West, who's a month older than I, etc.) That's a gerontocracy, rule of the elderly.

[Agape93]

That's not what IM talking about on MY comment stream. So stay on topic or fuck off.

[exitseven]

The senile kid sniffer is the worst. He is the worst president in history

[OddBeMe]

How so?

[exitseven]

look at the mess the country is in. We are financing two wars, prices show no sign of slowing down, crime is at an all time high, we are supporting ten million illegal aliens, while elderly people are living on the street, our kids are stuck in substandard schools that were not preparing them for life, the country is tearing itself apart. and to think, just 4 short years ago gas ws two bucks a gallon, we had no wars, real income rose across all demographics, people respected the police, we had a tax cut and we did not have boys playing girls sports. I could gomon but you get the idea.

[DrPepper12]

Worse than hoover? Hmmm...

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 I waa not here to see Hoover. I can remember Ronald Reagan. Those were good years as well.

[DrPepper12]

Yeah, cutting the corporate tax rate from 50 to 30 was brilliant... I can't wait for that trickle down economics to kick in... Should be any decade now! You guys have just replaced St. Ronnie with God Emperor Trump.

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 It was brilliant. It kept businesses from relocating offshore and encouraged investment in companies giving more jobs to Americans. It was mostly government bureaucrats' that did nor like it.

[handsomelad70]

@DrPepper12 From an empty suit cowboy wannabe to a corrupt swindler and rapist. GOOD JOB, REPIGLIKSCAM !!!

[DrPepper12]

Yeah, thats why 9:10 economists point to that act as THE moment in our flip from loaner to debtor nation and the countless problems that resulted? The decimation of unions? The rise of twi income household? So i guess all those jobs he "saved" are still here now? Are they? Don't bother. We know.

[handsomelad70]

Moe, Larry and Curly. Great Presidential choices !!!11

[Anonymous]

Hopefully they all end up on the slab before November

[handsomelad70]

At their age, they may !!!

[Anonymous]

Neither are acceptable but Trump is worse.

[gorydetails]

As always. Biden.

[OddBeMe]

Why?

[gorydetails]

He's a piece of shit. He's always been a piece of shit. He's dragging us into WW3, Inflation is out of control (no your lies about it's only 3% won't work on me). He's allowed millions of illegal immigrants to stream over our border, he's sending billions to foreign countries to be laundered back to him, Every thing out of his mouth is a lie.

[OddBeMe]

We’re not close to entering any war.
Inflation is down to 3.5%, which it will never be zero.
Illegal immigrants are a sign of rising economy. You should worry when we have none.

[gorydetails]

1) Bullshit
2) Again, that's a lie. It's down from 3% from the 40 year high inflation Biden has put us through. Our groceries have not gone down to just 3% over when Trump had 1.9% inflation.
3) They are a sign of a country that will collapse. 60% of Americans agree with deporting them all. You're on the losing side of this one. (and losing side of most everything)

[OddBeMe]

What did Biden do to cause the inflation? (Head in hands)

[gorydetails]

Print billions to send to Ukraine. $401 billion in stimmies. Paying for all these illegals you claim are a benefit.

[OddBeMe]

What’s being sent to Ukraine? It’s not money.

[gorydetails]

oh it's not? lol. Is it gubment cheese?

[Baxter392]

They just rounded up 15 terrorists yesterday. Every last one of them came over the border

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe guns and missiles to go where, numnuts?

[DrPepper12]

The independent fed prints money, not Biden.
18 hours of military funding equals fed govt spending on immigration. Perhaps our priorities need adjustment?

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 What have I been saying. No more money for Ukraine, No more foreign aid. Cut taxes, secure the border.

[handsomelad70]

Sixty percent of Americans are dumba**es. No immigrants, no economy. They're creating most U. S. jobs.

[gorydetails]

@handsomelad70 Awe cupcake, are you conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration again?

[DrPepper12]

JFC for the ♾️ time. 90% Foreign aid is spent domestically on weapons, consumables, tech kit, etc. you wanna kill those jobs in every congressional district? GOOD LUCK!!

Cut taxes on WHO?

Im not even going to address border problems with you.

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 you idiots really think that subsidizing the military-industrial complex so they can launder the money back to politicians is going to make me think it’s ok to keep doing? Are you really that fucking stupid to think anyone buys that spin? I remember when you leftists pretended to be anti-war.

Cut taxes on everyone. Income tax should be 0%.

I know you’re not going to discuss border problems because you like the idea of America being overrun with the 3rd world.

[DrPepper12]

Keep doing what re #1?

If you're a "taxation is theft" idealogue there's nothing to discuss

You don't grasp the problem. You can't. Leave the media bubble that's manipulating you.

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 lmao. You parrot the state’s propaganda on the regular.

[handsomelad70]

Trump ("Happy 78th birthday, Donny Baby") or Biden? Actually, both.

[handsomelad70]

I LOVE cupcakes, but... Legal immigrants are creating jobs, but were UNDOCUMENTED immigrants permitted to work, they'd also be aiding the U. S. economy.

[gorydetails]

@handsomelad70 lmao. Meanwhile they are draining taxpayers, running human trafficking rings, bringing in fentanyl and planning terrorist attacks.

[handsomelad70]

Zero income tax? REALLY? The U. S. would collapse in six months without income tax revenue.

[gorydetails]

@handsomelad70 lmao.

[OddBeMe]

Yes handsome is correct. Where else would the govt get its money? Progressive tax structure progressively charging higher taxes to richer Americans is the only fair way.

[gorydetails]

Weird the government was able to survive up till 1913.

[DrPepper12]

If by they you mean 90%+ native born americans then yes

[gorydetails]

@DrPepper12 wait, so you’re thinking we need to get rid of all non native born americans AND we can get rid of the income tax?