Is this fair at all?

[Juxtapose]

Updates

9 mo

For disclosure the government says Elon Musk is lying. Awfully convenient for his persecutors to say that, no?

www.justice.gov/.../justice-department-sues-spacex-discriminating-against-asylees-and-refugees-hiring

Given the illegal lawfare waged against Trump, I am hesitant to believe the government in this instance.

[BetaBucks]

He makes a fair point, although I don't think there is criminal liability in not hiring them, I think it was just civil/administrative liability. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding of it.

And on the topic, forcing any company to hire asylum seekers is legitimately immoral. Residency status shouldn't be considered a protected category for employment the way race and sex are.

[Juxtapose]

Absolutely agree with the last paragraph 👍

[Guacamole409]

Beta,
You must be joking. Alvin Brag managed to take Trumpl

[Guacamole409]

Trumps petty crimes and elevate them to felonies. They can do whatever they want under Biden.

[Dongie]

They were just harassing him. That's what jerks with all the power do. But being the richest kid. On the planethas it's own power.

[Anonymous]

The Biden administrate is very big on lawfair, given how out of it Joe Biden is, you have to wonder who among them is pushing it soo much.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No, this isn't fair

[1073sucks]

Democrats are never fair. The excuse criminal Biden from his crimes for NOT being mentally fit to stand trial but yet was mentally fit to run for president? Stupidity and unfairness.

Biden black mailed Ukraine to fire the prosecutor to prevent his and his son’s business corruption dealings in Ukraine which initiated the Cold War in Ukraine causing a REAL insurrection in that foreign country but he and Obama never did time for that crime or even stand trial wondering it’s illegal to do that. Instead they filter the information and feed the American people fake fact checks to cover that they are they owns that started the war in Ukraine. But why have the audacity to call January 6 an insurrection and not only lie about that but lie that trump caused that fake insurrection.

the reason they weren’t able to do anything with that even when today they keep calling it an insurrection and blame trump, is because the footage proves democrats are at fault for the chaos that proceeded from that protest. The full 44hundred hour footage contradicts the mini clips the democrats replayed for us on a daily basis to portray that trump did that and that the protestors i it’s yes that mess. That’s why all they were able to do was hush porn money and call him a felon/criminal/convict for that. Absurdities.

democrats are truly a threat to democracy. Everything unfair so long as they’re the ones falling the shots.

they even threw away their followers voted in the trash because they saw a loading candidate. Yet they brainwashed them to agree that that’s okay. 🤯

talk about being dumb. Look no further than that of a democratic follower.

[1073sucks]

Civil* war in Ukraine. Not cold. Autocorrect.

[1073sucks]

Oh autocorrect always ruining the comments 😂😑

[Dongie]

Tell me about it!!

[Dongie]

You ain't wrong!!
The first thing the Democrat can do to try and make up for all this shit and before they shut up, is crawl to everyone you told these lies to as truth and beg their forgiveness. Then maybe we can work on destroying the deep state and have our fuckin country back.

[goaded]

Don't you think there's a difference between rocket scientists and canteen staff? Besides, if what he says is true, he's got a perfect argument to use to have the case dismissed.

That was my original reaction. Then I spent 20 seconds looking and it turns out that "Export control laws impose no such hiring restrictions.". So it wasn't true, was it?

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-spacex-discriminating-against-asylees-and-refugees-hiring

[Juxtapose]

Oh how convenient, his persecutors say he is wrong.

If it was that easy to disprove Elon Musk he would not have said that.

[goaded]

They're not "persecuting" him, they're holding him to the law as written. Musk's lying about it.

[Juxtapose]

I don't believe this official story anymore than I believe the official JFK story. Elon Musk is not stupid enough to make a claim like this when he has to know all these laws. He knows there are people that are jumping at the itch to discredit him and making an easily disprovable claim would not serve him. It is not pragmatic even if he is a vicious social making an easily disprovable claim would not serve him. It is not pragmatic even if he is a vicious sociopath.

[Juxtapose]

*even if he is a vicious sociopath

[goaded]

But it is an "easily disprovable claim", and you still believe him. You're his target audience.

Was Trump's inauguration crowd as big as Obama's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTQ7__NNDI

[Juxtapose]

I'm sure you would say Trump's innocence is easily disproved when it is the opposite. I don't trust your judgment.

[Juxtapose]

And you also followed that covid nonsense.

[goaded]

See? You're still believing easily disprovable claims. A million Americans died of Covid.

Trump's innocence of what? You have to be specific as to which trial you're talking about.

Do you believe he declassified all those documents found at Mar a Lago? (Not that he's charged with anything related to the classification levels.)

[Juxtapose]

No, I mean all the lies about the vaccine and the exaggerated death rate. Just like 9/11 these disgusting politicians lied to the American people to grab power.

Trump is innocent on literally every single charge that has been against him.

[Guacamole409]

When crybabies on sites like this talk smack about Elon, it makes me want to puke. Do they not know that Elon is providing the starlink Internet for Ukraine? Do they not know that Elon is working on technology that will help Paralyzed people walk again?
I read this story along time ago and I couldn’t believe it. I’m pretty sure that Biden is also going after Bill Gates. Obviously Biden isn’t doing anything, but the deep state wants these people gone. I’m not a fan of Bill Gates, because he wants me to eat crickets. But where would we be without Microsoft?
What Elon needs to do is blast this all over X. Keep hammering away that Biden wants him to break the law. Keep hammering away that Merrick Garland is a corrupt weasel. Unless the deep state cheats again, Trump will seek his revenge in seven months.

[ManOnFire]

As much as Elon Musk annoys me, I can't say he's wrong on his stance at all. So lock him up for not hiring illegal immigrants, but do nothing about the immigration problem. Sounds completely insane to put somebody in prison for not hiring people with no documentation.

[goaded]

"Export control laws impose no such hiring restrictions."
www.justice.gov/.../justice-department-sues-spacex-discriminating-against-asylees-and-refugees-hiring

[ManOnFire]

@goaded But what is a business to do? I don't think it's fair that they should have to hire people with no documentation running from their own countries either. Meanwhile U. S. citizens have to prove themselves to get everything here, even to sit in the MVA.

[goaded]

Well, they're not with no documentation. They have documentation that they are asylees or refugees, with permission to live and work in the United States, so they stand on equal footing with U. S. citizens and lawful permanent residents under export control laws. It says so at that link I posted: www.justice.gov/.../justice-department-sues-spacex-discriminating-against-asylees-and-refugees-hiring

Musk was simply lying.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

lol

I don't know sometimes I think he’s part of whatever the corruption is. This one’s almost too far and nothing ever came of it so far as I remember.

lot of strange things happening in this country the last couple years. I think the pandemic had implications that won’t be clear for a while.

[Chazmatazz269]

You think Musk is trying to put himself in prison no matter who he employs?

I sure hope you’re not voting.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@Chazmatazz269 I sure hope you’re not voting if that’s what you got from that 😂

[Telekinetic-Potato]

The more I read it the crazier it gets. Are you literate?

[Guacamole409]

After what they did to Trump how could you find this far-fetched? Joe Biden gets to have classified documents illegally, because he’s brain damaged.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@Guacamole409 he gets to have documents because he’s a puppet. Do people really not know this?

Let’s just go over the timeline since the pandemic ended and you can tell me what you think of this.

Joe Biden “wins” the election. He gives out a shit load of oil permits, takes credit for the vaccine, gives 8 billion dollars to Iran and opens the boarder. Meanwhile, Musk is taking over twitter, uncovering not just American but also Chinese government involvement with twitter. He slowly and looking back, seemingly methodically builds a reputation as a MAGA. What happened on twitter after he took over?

People learned about the hunter biden laptop, people learned about the truth* behind the trump investigations, people learned about how progressivism and wokeism and BLM and Antifa weren’t about what they thought they were about, CNN went from talking about trump on the daily to actually reporting news … at least for a short time. You might have noticed much of their reporting has slowly shifted towards the center or to be more accurate as of late, it’s entirely sporadic. I mean, cuomo literally said on video that he won’t apologize for what he said about the vaccine specifically because he doesn’t want to have to deal with the backlash of admitting he was wrong. That’s weird right?

The whole time the media has been making musk look like everything he has and is, hangs by a thread due to workers during him or possibly losing spacex government contracts for smoking a blunt or any of the other scandals levied against him that never seem to materialize in the same way they did with Trump for example.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

This shift accelerated after Trump was visibly tired from dealing with all his court cases, in my opinion he looked like he aged more in those 6 months than the entire presidency. And then at the middle point of the mar-lago trial, his media coverage started becoming a little more fair than we’re used to. They became a little more critical of Biden but in an extremely bi-polar way.

So my thing is this, if Biden is a puppet and they wanted the open boarders and police defunded and the war in Gaza and so on, well the Republican Party is becoming strong. Trump has always been anti war, he has always been anti open boarder. If you wanted to infiltrate the other side, who would make a better double agent than Elon Musk? With his practically thousands of kids, dreams of going to outer space and public image, there is a lot a government could leverage against him. He probably isn't familiar enough with those politicians for there to be any complications either. It’s easy to put on a dog and pony show of him being “attacked” but in reality he’s raping the grant system lol. How sure are you that the government hates Elon? I like the guy but with everything going on right now, is it really so far fetched to think that they never really went after him for real? And it was all just a show to make the public, or maybe even key conservatives like say trump himself gain his trust? What about Tucker Carlson who also has had some strange rumors about everything from a presidential run to texts saying he hates trump to him and Joe Rogan trying to get to get together with Musk. Like none of that seems just slightly strange to you? Enough to just kinda keep it in mind as things unfold?

[Guacamole409]

Of course he was a puppet and everyone knows that. But the puppet master lives behind the curtain. They’re not going to say that he’s OK because we have a puppet they had to make an excuse. The excuse was that he was senile. So they’re not going to prosecute him.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@Guacamole409 OMG our country is so fucked🤣

[Guacamole409]

It is fucked. When the leader of the free world is criticized for his hair and his orange complexion, you know you’re dealing with fucking morons. There was no wars under Trump.

When the Ukraine war broke out, Trump offered to fly over on his own dime and negotiate a peace treaty. Biden and his worshipers refused to let him do that. This war was intended by the deep state and Biden allowed it to happen.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@Guacamole409 you don’t say?

[Chazmatazz269]

Your words, not mine, “… I think he’s part of whatever the corruption is.”. Meanwhile, the video is of Musk explaining how the corruption has cornered him so that no matter who he hires or doesn’t, he is in violation of the law.

Justify your nonsense, rather than deflecting by calling me crazy.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@Chazmatazz269 I mean, I explained everything. If you don’t want to read all that I get it I guess but you kind of loose the right for me to give a shit about anything else you have to say.

It’s not deflection, it’s disappointment

[DJB72]

Sounds like a great reason to take his multibillion dollar businesses and all the jobs they create to literally anywhere else. Private companies can move like that. I'm sure Australia would love to suddenly have all those jobs and revenue added to their economy. He could even go to Namibia and stick it to both the USA and South Africa by boosting their economy.

[Kelley1]

All governments are criminal organizations and should be eliminated.

[Juxtapose]

What will you do with the chaos of anarchy though?

[Kelley1]

Generally, people get along. It is true the people murder tens of thousands which government does not prevent. However, governments murder millions; more than a hundred times as many. When government is not involved, citizens establish rules for their community such as the "Miner's courts" in remote areas in the 1800s.

[Juxtapose]

Anarchy does not work and will lead to Mafia rule.

If citizens collectively establish rules, that is a government.

[NotSlowestSloth]

Anarchy cannot support population level we have. It also fails at any technological advancements.

[Kelley1]

@NotSlowestSloth Opinion; not fact nor is it supported by any facts.

[NotSlowestSloth]

Had you known how technology and civilization works, you would have validated answers by yourself and provided a validate rebuttal but let me quote you proper factual research anyway

"The Possibility of Cooperation" by Michael Taylor (Cambridge University Press, 1987): examination of conditions under which cooperation can be achieved without a central authority.

"Law Without a State" by David Friedman (Journal of Libertarian Studies, 1979): exploration on how legal systems could function in an anarchic society.

"Anarchism: A Theoretical Analysis" by Alan Carter (Oxford University Press, 1989): theoretical analysis of anarchism and its practical implications.

[Kelley1]

@NotSlowestSloth Thank you.

[AviatorTom]

The Democrats are upset that Musk is so successful, in so many areas. Of course it's not fair. No matter what Musk does w/r/t hiring, he can be punished.

[Dongie]

The old squeeze play.
I think I like this guy.
He makes liberals squeel almost as good as DJT.

[Dargil]

Government makes up new crimes for people it doesn't like.

[ohsheeT]

What do you mean Fair you mean that the government is doing this no it's not fair but they're doing it to try to get a cut of musk money and less is probably not going for it which I applaud that

[OddBeMe]

I don’t really care what this sideshow villain does.

[Serkee]

Elon Musk's son*

[Juxtapose]

So somebody deserves to be treated unfairly under the law because they do something you don't agree with? Are you fucking serious?

[Sasahara]

@OddBeMe If Musk is the sideshow villain, as you put it, you don’t really care about him berating his son enough to harbor any ill will toward him because of it or anything else he does, since you don’t really care.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Musk was lying. "Export control laws impose no such hiring restrictions."

[Serkee]

@goaded And he was right.

[OddBeMe]

@Serkee he also uploaded a fake Kamala video which violates his own twitter site. Sorry “X”

[Juxtapose]

OMFG YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW THAT'S A JOKE?

[OddBeMe]

It’s always a joke when the right wing does it.

[Juxtapose]

Are you seriously this dense? Can you not see that the video is obviously not her?

[Sasahara]

Absolutely not fair.

[Ladsin2]

It’s an absurdity.