Do you agree with this statement?

[Juxtapose]

[Dongie]

For sure. This country has been taken and ruled by tyrants. I guess the only hope is somebody that is honest to get in charge. But that may not help. If it wouldn't they sure are trying awful hard to keep him out. And they have all there 'good' little liberals helping them with the vote.

[DrPepper12]

Do you support public campaign finance?

[Dongie]

I think so.

[worldscolide]

I would agree. I paid nearly 80k in taxes last year.

[WhitneySnow]

I think it’s more like a third unless you’re really rich. And if you are there are lots of tax avoidance devices you can use. (Of course those cost money too but not as much as paying the tax.)

[Juxtapose]

Even a fourth of your total income being given to the government means you're working three months every year for free. That's insanity.

[WhitneySnow]

Well somebody’s got to pay for social programs

[Juxtapose]

A 4th of everybody's income? Seriously?

[WhitneySnow]

The government won’t run without taxes. Maybe it would back in colonial times but defo not today.

[Juxtapose]

No deal, that's insanity. Cut, cut & CUT. That level of taxation is ridiculous.

[DrPepper12]

It's NOT for free!! It's to provide the appurtenances of civilization

[DrPepper12]

Rate is irrelevant. Value is Relevant

[Dongie]

10% flat.

[Dongie]

I'd like to know just how much is embezzled, wasted, and given away.

[NathanDavis]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers ever considered TikTok...

[BoopBoopBeep]

Absolutely. And half the people have no skin in the game because they get BS credits.

[jshm2]

No. They stole the land from the Natives and British, to make it an enterprise for themselves and their backers.

[Juxtapose]

I don't care about that tired sob story, I care about how Americans are getting ripped the fuck off.

Those natives by the way would do the same thing to the Europeans if they could have.

[MicahRaine]

@Juxtapose 😂🙌👍

[Juxtapose]

@MicahRaine hell yeah 👍

[DrPepper12]

Our Constitution is a suicide pact

[Juxtapose]

If you think Europe is so great then move there.

[DrPepper12]

Why? If something is broken you fix it, not toss it in the trash!

"I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually."

James Baldwin

[Juxtapose]

America will not become great by being made like Europe

[DrPepper12]

Beg to differ. Look at any happiness or life satisfaction survey

[Juxtapose]

You can be happier while drunk. It doesn't mean it is good for you.

[DrPepper12]

I assure you it's not intoxicants that make the Scandinavians happy! It's all the blue eyes blondes of course!!

[OddBeMe]

False. Founding Fathers started the Bill of Rights as amendments to change with the times.

But if Ron fucking Paul and you think the govt is taking half your wage you’re an imbecile.

[Juxtapose]

The government did not intend for even an eighth of your income to be taken, let alone close to half.

[Juxtapose]

Look at how they reacted to a tax on tea.

[BetaBucks]

Funny how you talk down to people like an arrogant snob, but I'd bet $1,000 you wouldn't talk to Juxtapose like that in person. Tough behind that keyboard though.

But since you want to act smart, I get more than half my income taken between fed income tax, state income, SS, medicare, sales, property tax, and more. I'll bet you $1,000 cash I'm right.

[Juxtapose]

@BetaBucks if he's going to call me an imbecile he should at least be right in my opinion. Yet here you are, able to prove that you are paying more than half of your income in taxes.

[OddBeMe]

@BetaBucks I call anyone around me an imbecile when it’s warranted. But thanks for input.

And I don’t have your tax records but average for most Americans up to several hundred thousand is maybe 15-20%. With lots of deductions. Maybe get a better accountant.

[BetaBucks]

Get a better accountant to break the law? Nah, I'll follow the law. And I still would bet you don't run your mouth that reckless in person. Bullies never do.

[BetaBucks]

Didn't read it. Ron Paul said it, so I'm on board 😁

[MicahRaine]

I don't like Ron Paul, but I agree with that statement

[shortster]

There is very little politically I disagree with Ron Paul on.

[Goahead76]

Damn right, time to pack up and leave in search of better place much as our ancestors did.

[exitseven]

yes. the government is way too big.

[DrPepper12]

You can't say that without saying what value you're getting for that size. We're not getting our money's worth is the problem on TOP of a fucked up tax system

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 Too many bureaucrats that cannot be fired. President Trump implemented Shedule F at the end of his first term but never had time to do anything with it. Next year look for 50k federal bureaucrats to be released into the dreaded private sector where they will actually be expected to produce something.

[DrPepper12]

It's too simplistic and retrograde. It's about value

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I'm still looking for a good tax guy

[gorydetails]

10000%

[DJB72]

Yup...

[Staximus]

100%