Do you really believe all the accusations made by The right wing and all the conspiracy theories they keep promoting?

[msc545]

The Republican party in the United States has done nothing but make completely false accusations over and over again against anyone who disagrees with them. They have also promoted destructive conspiracy theories that have greatly divided our country and caused a substantial amount of civil unrest and in one case an insurrection. Do you believe anything that they say is true and if so what and why?

[goaded]

Of course not, what isn't an outright lie is massively exaggerated or misleading, or both.

Ex-Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan: "You don't have to agree with all of Kamala's policy positions to see she will bring stability and leadership to the White House. A vote for #Harris doesn't mean you're a Democrat. It means you're a patriot."

Ex-#Trump official Olivia Troye: "Four years ago, I resigned from the Trump administration. As a Republican who dreamed of working in the White House, it was a hard decision. But as an American, it was the right one. I saw how Donald Trump undermined our intelligence community, military leaders, and, ultimately, our democratic process. Now, he's doing it again, lying and laying the groundwork to undermine this election.

I grew up in the kind of working family Trump pretends to care about. Conservative. Catholic. Texan. July 4th was our most sacred holiday. Those values made me a Republican. And they're the same values that make me proud to support Kamala Harris. Not because we agree on every issue. But because we agree on the most important issue: protecting our freedoms. So to my fellow Republicans: You aren't voting for a Democrat. You're voting for democracy!"

[goaded]

Mike Lindell's lies vs. a 12 year old with more sense in his little finger.

files.mastodon.online/.../3550b60e46e2bd86.mp4

[DryGermanGuy]

No, I will never believe in Jewish space lasers, 2000 mules or voting machines controlled by the ghost of Hugo Chavez.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No, I don't believe in them

[ProbablyClueless]

Substantial claims require substantial evidence; I generally only believe what I can prove. I think that a lot of the claims the right makes are a bit too hyperbolic, but I also think the left is way too ready to flat out ignore inconvenient truths for the sake of staying on narrative.

I think the terms "left" and "right" are outdated at this point. I prefer "pro-establishment" and "anti-establishment" because I think it's safe to say that we have pro and anti people on the left and right sides of the aisle.

What are some of the things we KNOW happened?

Joe Biden's quid pro quo with Ukraine is an indisputable fact for anyone looking at the evidence honestly. Fauci's involvement in the creation of the Covid-19 virus is an indisputable fact. Development of Monkey Pox; another proven fact. The pro-establishment machine expressly admitted to rigging the 2020 election that Time magazine article; they've literally admitted to these things directly and the establishment people just totally ignore the fact that they did that. Both of the Gulf Wars, Vietnam, Syria, Lebanon; these wars are all the result of false flag operations and CIA tampering in the domestic affairs of other countries.

[slatyb]

LOL. Where is your proof of any of this? There is proof of Trump asking for personal favors from Ukraine in exchange for military aid.

[ProbablyClueless]

@slatyb The FBI investigation disagrees with your assertion. And my proof for every single one of those claims is the historical factual record. 5 minutes of research can tell you every single one of those things.

These are quite literally the things that happened, indisputably, as simple matters of fact.

[slatyb]

That's not how a discussion works. You make the claim, you provide the reference.

[ProbablyClueless]

@slatyb this also isn't a discussion. Calling this a discussion would suggest that anything I said was debatable. It isn't; these are simple statements of fact. If we start talking about points that are actually debatable, I will happily provide you with sources.

[slatyb]

You have presented no facts.

[bobby_bush_eater]

The left makes up a lot more conspiracy theories that are entirely unfounded.

The right say you're using replacement theory based on UN papers from 20 years ago, now Hungary and Poland face sanctions for not allowing fake refugees. The UK is turning authoritarian, Kamala in 2019 was ranked the furthest left wing senator, Waltz did use police to enforce a curfew which was entirely unconstitutional. BLM was a massive scam where our cities and businesses were looted by thugs and everyone stayed quiet because "racism".

Illegals are mocking us and killing/raping our citizens. They have been proven in Texas trying to get paperwork to vote backed by NGOs. Yet that was another conspiracy even though illegals effect the census and therefore the house.

You people have had the majority of power the last 16 years, your best accolades are trying to force a welfare state and subvert democracy in order to "save" it. You anointed a new candidate to not allow any in party division and quickly get the dnc done with no delegates. Simultaneously you attack Jill Stein to not allow any ballot division.

You people are everything wrong with this country and it's a constitutional Republic not a fucking democracy.

[coachTanthony]

Kamala is in the White House right now... dems have controlled the White House and this country for 12 of the last 16 years. Trump had it for 4 years and somehow everything is still all Trumps fault. Kamala says she will solve the problems facing Americans despite being VP right now at this very moment. How do you explain all the problems that somehow will be solved by the person who is currently in there for the past 3.5 years that is supposed to be already doing that very same thing?

[msc545]

Yes, but would you prefer a mentally criminal who now shows signs of his own
illness in the white house right now or at any time?

[coachTanthony]

Agree to disagree with your assessment so yes Trump and his policies will out rule the crazy talk your spewing

[msc545]

I see. So you think that the mental status of the person who is President has nothing to do with the policies that are enacted, or in the alternative, do you think Trump is a "stable genius", or both?

Which is it?

[coachTanthony]

The mental status is crucial …He’s stable and will do just fine. Not sure where you get he’s not.

[msc545]

@coachTanthony I get that he is mentally ill and unstable based on his behavior and the things he says - and does not say. I diagnose mental illness professionally, so I am not just anyone saying this.

[coachTanthony]

You must not be very good at your job then because he is simply not what you are saying him to be.

[msc545]

Well yeah, I'm just a neuropsychologist and I realized that with your very advanced education and experience as a dating coach your much more accurate than I could ever be.

[coachTanthony]

Prove it... anyone can be anyone here on the internet lol At least I am googleable.

[msc545]

Really? So what name should I use when I try to Google you?

[coachTanthony]

Coach T Anthony duh

[msc545]

The obvious modesty of your website is overwhelming...

[coachTanthony]

Still waiting to see yours lmao

[msc545]

Hold your breath. I have no website.

[coachTanthony]

The title of your published books or videos of your many speeches about mental health should do! Can’t wait to give you the respect you deserve! Just post the links below! Thanks !

[msc545]

I don't give speeches. Be very glad you've not met me professionally. I care for veterans and in the past for imprisoned criminals.

[JesterRose]

Meanwhile libertarians sit in the middle, watching two teams on chimps flinging their dung at each other. Bost sides are evil for almost the exact same reasons. Put the kool-aid down and open your eyes.

[exitseven]

The civil unrest came from the left. Then the media repeated the lies over and over and over again. The Jan6th protesters staged an "insurrection" the BLM george Floyd crowd has a "mostly peaceful" protest.

It is mostly peaceful

[msc545]

Provide some evidence for all of that or at least some of it. It's all a pack of lies and you know it.

[exitseven]

There is an oft repeated video of a CNN reporter standing in front of several burning buildings in I think was Minneapolis while Walz was governor and he was saying that the protest was mostly peaceful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505lAvIGCj0

[DryGermanGuy]

Let go of your silly whataboutism.

[msc545]

@exitseven What you posted is NOT evidence of anything.

[exitseven]

it is evidence of how the fake news is in the tank for the democrats.

[msc545]

No, it is actually evidence of your complete devotion to Trump and your complete blindness to reality.

[Sevenpointfive]

conspiracy theories? i don't think that's a blanketed term for the truth and fiction combined. the left has them as well. but i think the left is flat out evil

[BCRanger10]

I mean... Democrats keep calling us racists, insurrectionists, sexists, and such, so...

[Juxtapose]

They're right actually in a lot of cases. The dems have lost it.

[katiesmuff]

I don't believe one lying word of it!

[Staximus]

The Democrats are worse