Question for Leftists #6: Feminism is a national Security Risk. Do you agree?

[Ponderer_8000]

Why am I asking about feminism? Because people - predominantly Leftists - practice and/or support feminism. Anyway, let me explain: 1) I've heard that the US military has issues hiring, due to low enrollment numbers and because Americans are getting too fat (amongst other issues, like the military getting woke, but that's not relevant right now). Why is this happening? I suspect Apathy has something to do with it. A man is going to fight to defend what he loves. But this country seems to have been telling men for the last little while that they're worthless and/or redundant. Thus men, reasonably, may become disinterested in defending America and instead stay home getting fat and gaming. 2) Feminism seems to have made men and women repulsive to each other, as a woman wouldn't want a submissive feminized male and a man doesn't want a woman who displays masculine behaviors. No wonder birth rates are falling. 3) I've heard that feminism is just a government tool. A career woman is just another person to collect taxes from. 4) Polite Leader is a YouTuber. He has a series explaining that feminism was a scam from the beginning (Yes, even the 1st and 2nd waves). I've watched a few of the videos. According to the series, it was a movement assembled by con artists, folks with daddy issues, and other worthless people. 5) According to Red Pillers, feminist women behave in a predictable pattern: they despise men, so in their youth, they use men for resources and "bedroom fun". Then, when their looks fade, they try to settle down into a stable relationship (not for love, but because they need a paypig to leech off of). But this doesn't work all the time: these women have diminished looks (due to age, partying too much in their youth, and/or trying too hard to still look young), diminished pair-bonding ability and perhaps STDs (due to sleeping around too much), and poor mental health. These women cry themselves to sleep, surrounded by cats and boxed wine.

[Syntosi]

Is feminism a security risk? No.

1: The US has indeed issues filling recruitment and that can be boiled down to 3 parameters. The free will to enlist, the incentives to enlist and how many actually qualify. You already identified that less people are physically fit enough to qualify so I won't go into that.

So why do people not volunteer as much these days? Lack of patriotism? Not really, the biggest reason people sign up is because they have family members that has served. Being part of the military, air force, navy etc.. becomes part of the family tradition.

What is actually happening is that young people are losing faith in the institutions, both government and military. Things like the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam and others are good examples but also just general political distrust such as not believing in the ruling parties. It does not really matter how much you love the nation if you dont think the military is there to protect your rights or values.

That is unless you believe that the compensation is worth it. The US military has tried very hard to offer social services such as free healthcare, free education and such to motivate people to signing up. These services does not really look as appealing these days for various reasons such as the healthcare being offered being really bad quality.

So the military really only has two options. Become a more publicly respectable institution, or offer better compensation.

Basically, this has nothing to do with feminism and if nothing else, having women also apply is helping them fill the quota.

2: Feminism making men and women repulsed with each other? No. Both feminine men and masculine women are highly desirable. What modern society has done however is ruined our social life. Especially now with economic hardship we are forced to work more and socialize less. You might only really meet people online or at your work place rather than going out and visiting bars and night clubs. Both getting new relationships and maintaining those you have becomes harder when you can't dedicate time to it and have less money and energy to hang out.

As for the birthrate, we have birth control these days so we get to pick when we have children. As such its a conscious choice not to have children and that mostly boils down to not having a financially secure environment to raise a child in. Fewer and fewer have the free time to dedicate to it or owns a home to raise a family in. As such the youth today feels less ready to start a family than ever before.

3: Feminism is a government tool to collect taxes? No. Feminism has a very long history and a strong foundation in philosophy. It exists independently of people who attempts to use it because its a valid and morally justified position to have.

4: No, feminism is not a scam. That is stupid.

5: Feminism does not teach anyone to hate men. It actually teaches the exact opposite. Everything you just said there just sounds like someone trying to smear their opposition and if its not you then you are also a victim of being lied to.

[mandyfire98]

This might be the most intelligent and educated response I've ever read on this entire site.

I fucking love logic.
You sir deserve more than just MHO for this.

[Syntosi]

@mandyfire98 Why thank you! Much appreciated.

[mandyfire98]

No, thank you. It's rare to see actual intelligence on this site. You made my day.

[Lliam]

Hear hear! Excellent response!

[paledreams]

I don't think it is - yet I'm only speaking for me or my country I live in - I mean life is always full of social movements and so on : that's the job of agencies or government to monitor not the likes of me John Citizen who shrugs at feminism as like "uhh, I guess people just should vote better when it's voting time" 😅

[ManInChains]

You know feminists don’t actually want equality with men when they say things like “the future is female” or in extreme cases, “kill all men” but they’ll brush it off as a joke. Why joke about that if their supposed goal is equality? No man or woman should trust a feminist. Their intentions are nowhere near pure. Jesus always comes first and Jesus is a man and god refers to himself as the father which is considered male. Feminists can’t stand this. They don’t want women worshiping males.

[Syntosi]

Actually that is not what "the future is female" means. Its about the traits we attribute to gender and how they apply to society. Things like how the hierarchy inside a corporation should be structured where the male stereotype is defined as the old style going from the CEO to the bottom where as the female stereotype favors a structure without these corporate ladders.

In other words, when they say "The future is female" they probably mean a social change and has nothing to do with the gender of people.

[ManInChains]

I call bullshit. Either way it’s bullshit. Women didn’t create the system we have and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

[Syntosi]

First of all, it is your side that believes in gender stereotypes. Things like women being emotional and men being logical or whatever. It is literally just an extension of that so feel free to call it bullshit since that just undermines your own worldview.

And really? You dont think the world today is a bit messed up? I mean, you are objectively wrong according to studies but it is at least a brave stance to take.

[ManInChains]

The world today is messed up because of women

[Syntosi]

Right.. Because women have all the power right? Its not them who decides if you are miserable or not.

[ManInChains]

If the current VP bitch ends up president they will be. I'd rather not be sent to jail for being born with a duck. Almost happened once. Sick of being treated as guilty until proven innocent.

[Syntosi]

Does that mean women are being sent to jail because we have a male president today?

[ManInChains]

What do you think?

[Syntosi]

I am asking you.

[ManInChains]

Obviously not because we live in a gynocentric society where women are treated better than men are just because they have tits and a vagina

[Syntosi]

So why would a female leader change this?

[ManInChains]

They only care about what’s between their legs. That’s what Hilary ran with. It’s what Harris is running sign and if you’re against them you’re apparently a sexist. Anyone who goes after you for being a sexist just because you don’t like their way of doing things will change the way everything works. They’re currently in power and wokeness has been destroying businesses. People are growing farther apart instead of closer together because of these female empowerment leaders.

[Syntosi]

Ahaha! You are so insane dude.

[ManInChains]

Only considered that to those who don’t see it

[Lliam]

An national security risk? LMAO. More like an imaginary threat to weak men.

I'll refer to Syntosi's reply. He covered the question eloquently.

[normalice]

I'm not going to read that, but no.

[mandyfire98]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 amazing.