Does the below (details) mean you are owned?

[Juxtapose]

If you support governments to have the authority to dictate what you can do rather than you deciding for yourself? You are owned.

Example: In France they outright banned paternity tests because they think they know better than their citizens. So the French have big daddy government asserting its ownership of them and a commands them to not even be able to find out the DNA of their children.

Does anybody sincerely believe that a government should have that type of power over you? Does anybody really want to be owned? It's sickening!

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Okay before more foolish people try to say paternity tests are actually legal in France? They are not, not private ones. I already knew that and you're not being clever. The private tests are the ones that matter because why should you need extra steps to get a DNA test? Why should the government in any way be a barrier to that?

You are still owned and people who disagree with me on this are sadly mistaken.

[BetaBucks]

This is why I'm libertarian. No one should be told what they can and can't do with their own body. Abortion is a difficult one, because it involves a body within a body, so I get that this can be viewed differently than other things like drug usage or forced vaccinations.

The paternity test thing is a blatant human rights violation. The French even claim that it's to preserve the peace of a marriage, but that's a load of BS. We know it's to prevent men from being able to find out if they're the father or not. And I don't know if it's still the same (or if I was lied to), but it used to be that men still had to care for a child that isn't their's. Even if the wife admitted to getting pregnant by another man, the husband still legally has to care for the child. This is another weird level of government force I'll never understand.

[Juxtapose]

^^ THIS.

[DryGermanGuy]

When will you get professional help for your media illiteracy?
https://www.infotestadn.com/en/post/how-to-do-a-paternity-test-in-france

[Juxtapose]

You're not proving me wrong at all. I know it is private paternity test that are illegal and those are the ones I care about. You should not need authorization at all, you should be able to go have the test at your leisure as long as you can pay for it.

[Juxtapose]

Seems like you're perfectly okay with the French government acting as a barrier to paternity tests. You are trying to act like you know better than me when in reality you don't. You support authoritarian nonsense.

[DryGermanGuy]

Personal data is protected in Europe, including your DNA. Which means the usual rat bastard companies that can collect all your data and pictures and use and abuse it DONT GET TO DO THAT HERE!!!

[Juxtapose]

There you go, saying the government knows better than the average citizen and must protect the citizen from themselves. Why not let the citizen examine the contracts of these tests and decide their own fate?

[Juxtapose]

You are an authoritarian.

[DryGermanGuy]

🥱🥱🥱🥱😴

[Juxtapose]

See? You can't even refute what I said because you know I am right. You think the government knows better than free men.

[DryGermanGuy]

There is nothing to refute because you are just a queer drama queen on a braindead „mission“.
„Some people are so far behind, they think they are leading.“
- Corrado Soprano

[gatixek710]

I think it was reagan who said a government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.

[Juxtapose]

^^ absolutely.

[The_Confusion]

Gorydetails/dalton?

[gatixek710]

@The_Confusion yup. The mods power trip every few months when they're bored.

[worldscolide]

Unfortunately this is something that shit stain leftists are too stupid to grasp. the more power you give the government, the more they own you. Its pathetic.

[Dongie]

It's going to be 1789 all over again.

⚡️🗼🐈
Nah, they're pussies.

It should be 1789 again.
The glorious revolution.

[DJB72]

These guys had the right idea...

[noohair]

I am 70. I have seem my rights fade away little by little.

[OddBeMe]

what government? The US is dictated by Congress. Russia is dictated by Putin.

[Juxtapose]

Any government. They do their best to own you.

[Juxtapose]

If you live under a government that thinks it has the right to deny your ability to get a paternity test? You are owned.

[OddBeMe]

It thinks what our politicans are elected think. Thats the value of democracy. We’re just too dumb to use it right.

Why do we vote to give rich people tax cuts and not just us? Dont really know what paternity test you’re talking about. It’s done all the time in child support court…don’t think that’s changed.

[Juxtapose]

Dude I am not explaining what I already explained about the paternity tests in the beginning paragraphs of this question.

[OddBeMe]

Jesus fucking Christ. Look what I found with a little bit of research. You dumb fuck right wingers.

“ France
DNA paternity testing is solely performed on decision of a judge in case of a judiciary procedure in order either to establish or contest paternity or to obtain or deny child support”

[Juxtapose]

They absolutely forbid you from getting it on your own as a private citizen, that means you are owned.

How dumb are you?

[Juxtapose]

Or are you okay with needing Big Daddy government's permission to get a paternity test?

[OddBeMe]

We have some restrictions here on dna testing. But like I showed you…dumb fuck, still happens in France.

[Juxtapose]

There should be zero restrictions on a private citizen wanting their DNA tested consensually. That is Big Daddy government getting involved in your life in a way that is quite unacceptable. You are not a free person, you are owned.

[Juxtapose]

You are so comfortable of being property you don't even see it.

[OddBeMe]

Protest in France dickless. They also ban the hijab, but not a word on how restrictive or against god that is from you.

[Juxtapose]

I'm the one bringing attention to how governments own people in a general sense. I'm not going to bring attention to every single little instance, I picked a random one.

Also I am an atheist and don't give a fuck about your fairy tales.

[OddBeMe]

And you failed to research it at all just going off random right wing shit memes you found online.

Leaving me to do the real research to expose your bullshit.

[Juxtapose]

Are you fucking ridiculously dumb? I already told you that private paternity tests are illegal in France. You have to have big daddy government approve what you are doing, hence you are not free in France. You are owned.

Jesus you people are dense.

[OddBeMe]

Why would you need one unless you’re in court over paternity? Meanwhile I’m in the US where you usually are bitching about the Southern border. And how we need bigger government at the border. Starting see the idiocy in your beliefs?

[Juxtapose]

I shouldn't need a reason whatsoever. I should be able to get one at my leisure because I am a citizen and not a subject.

No actually defense of the country is one of the core duties of the government even in a minimalist state. Try again.

[OddBeMe]

DNA testing requires using medical samples from other people. Dont think you thought this through.

[OddBeMe]

To test with someone here in the US you need their consent. So no, you don’t have unlimited total access. And usually a judge is required.

blog.genomelink.io/.../is-it-illegal-to-do-a-dna-test-without-consent

[OddBeMe]

Fucking Christ…had to research that too. I’m done ‘splainin it’ to retards.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah, you get a strand of hair or whatever from your kid. That's easy & if you're so worried about it you can require written consent from everyone involved. Boom, still keeps Big Daddy government out for the most part.

[Juxtapose]

The questions you bring me are so basic it makes me think if you think at all.

[OddBeMe]

If you’re not the guardian of that kid you just broke the law shirbirdx

[Juxtapose]

Why the fuck would I get a DNA sample from a kid that is not even under my care? How is that even relevant?

[OddBeMe]

Don’t know. Your ramblings are so incoherent. Why care about this at all? DNA testing is hardly evidence of our govt being too big.

Even though you want big govt at just the southern border to keep out brown skinned people.

[Juxtapose]

You keep trying to change the topic because it is demonstrably true that you are okay with the government treating people like they are property.

[OddBeMe]

No I’ve been steadfastly bodily autonomy. Against anything governing what people do with their bodies. Which you fucks want to legislate the shit out of, cough, Roe.

[Juxtapose]

I'm for states making their own laws on this and I have always been personally in favor of abortion so long as it is done before the brainstem develops.

[Juxtapose]

Meanwhile you want big daddy government to be able to tell people when and how they can get paternity tests.

[OddBeMe]

So state governments being too big, telling us what to do with our bodies. you're a joke.

[Juxtapose]

I care about our laws being consistent and putting that shit in the Constitution was stupid. They should have put in a general bodily autonomy amendment instead of referencing some right to abortion that the constitution never referenced.

www.latimes.com/.../how-roe-vs-wade-went-wrong-broad-new-right-to-abortion-rested-on-a-shaky-legal-foundation

[Juxtapose]

Now you can vote with your feet. If you don't like the laws in Texas for example? Move to California.