Which gender is generally built for military combat, men or women?

[Chthou95]

Men

Women

[Zenpanda]

That fully depends on the type of combat.
Hand to hand, men tend to have the advantage.
Tank shell reloading and heavy artillery reloading, men also have an advantage.
But the actual firing of weapons and other combat types really blur the line between men and women. Both can really excel in these.
So the difference lessens considerably the less physical strength is needed.
Of course there are women who are stronger than a lot of men and women and men who are weaker than a lot of men and women, but those are not the norm.

[RebelinSteel]

Define military combat. A drone operator, a pilot, a weapons operator on a ship, a helicopter pilot, a battle space / Joint Operations Area. The modern military is a mix of skills sets and disciplines. It is no longer just combat troops on the ground, FEBA battle space is ever changing. Ukraine, Afghanistan has shown clearly that modern warfare involves multiple levels of support, indirect and direct.

[Chthou95]

And even men still outperform women in most roles

[RebelinSteel]

Prove it? How many battle space commanders do you know? How many pilots?

[Chthou95]

I don't use anecdotes as they're pointless

[RebelinSteel]

Basically you make shit up lol, typical gag troll.

[Chthou95]

Mr simpleton men are stronger and faster than women. Shouldn't this alone be enough to conclude that men are better suited?

[RebelinSteel]

@Chthou95 you have zero and I mean zero understanding of modern battlespace, of modern equipment, of modern ways of working. It’s pointless you are living so far in the past it’s laughable.

[blueonblack22]

Men. But women can be good snipers. Also there is a psychological warfare advantage of using female soldiers when it comes to fighting Islamic terrorists.

Many of these terrorist believe they won’t make it to heaven if they are killed by a woman on the battlefield. If they know they are going into combat against female soldiers many of them will flee.

[Chthou95]

They don't kill the women. They just do something else to the women

[blueonblack22]

Well that’s because they are usually dealing with unarmed and/or untrained women.

But I always wondered why the western armed forces didn’t create an all female elite special forces unit to deal with Islamic terrorists. Have them be snipers.

[normalice]

Back when it was spears and swords, men. But now it's all buttons and triggers so it doesn't matter.

[Agape93]

Exactly

[Chthou95]

There's still a lot of physical demanding jobs involving artillery and carrying equipment. War isn't just shooting and long range engagements. Men will still outperform women

[normalice]

Probably 99% of the physical activity of soldiers is mopping floors. Are you suggesting women are ill suited to such a strenuous task?

[Chthou95]

I did mention combat did i not? But if a woman has been in the kitchen long enough, she should be much better than men at mopping

[normalice]

I also mentioned combat and you changed the subject to carrying equipment. If you are just wanting your opinion repeated back to you maybe try Twitter 🤷

[Chthou95]

Even if men are doing mopping (which was an irrelevant comment on your part), im talking about the ones that do get deployed into combat. They'll always do much better than the women.

[RebelinSteel]

@Chthou95 oh how many times you been deployed to witness this stuff or you just making it all up again.

[normalice]

Of course they do better because people keep pushing women out of those roles. That's a dumb argument.

[Chthou95]

@RebelinSteel I have to witness or experience something to know that men logically are better suited for combat?

[Chthou95]

Lol no one pushes women out of roles. They just can't do it or perform to the same level as men. Why do you think the standards are lowered for women?

[normalice]

PT is meant as a measure of personal fitness, not useful strength. i, a 40 year old man, have lower pt standards than 18 year old women. And yet they'd send me first if I let them.

[RebelinSteel]

Okay, so a 6ft 8 guy is a better fast jet pilot that a 5ft 6 girl?
The clue is in the height,
There is no denying for roles such as front line infantry, Royal Marines, Paras, etc yes guys are more suited. The thing is, it’s not 1915 or 1940, the world has changed, warfare is asymmetrical, you have a mix of genders in support roles, that combat medic, the helicopter on Casevac duties can me crewed by girls or guys or as is the case a mix. The Aicraft engineers working on a F35 may very well be girls, or the pilot could be. If you had been in a combined mess, you would know this. The us navy also had their first combat kill carried out by a girl.

[Chthou95]

Yeah because generalist speaking you're still going to be stronger than most 18 year old women

[Chthou95]

Generally*

[Chthou95]

@RebelinSteel Do astronomers have to experience being on the planet mars to be able to study and have opinions about it? Why fix something that didn't need to be fixed? Allowing women just hinders something that was already fine all for the sake of political correctness

[normalice]

Then their standards would be lower than mine.

[RebelinSteel]

@Chthou95 as per my other comment, you know nothing of modern life, you are rooted in the past, it’s a pointless discussion, as everything comes down to your 1800’s thinking. You know zero about the modern military as in anything after 1945, or maybe 1900’s. I will put you down as one of the usual Gag trolls and treat accordingly.

[Chthou95]

@RebelinSteel Blah blah blah. Throw ad homien instead of answering my question about your logic

[normalice]

Said by the guy who just completely ignored the point I made because he doesn't like it 🤷

[Chthou95]

You didn't really prove anything. Their standards would be lowered because they're physically weaker

[normalice]

Moron. Try to pay attention to this entire sentence. Their standards are HIGHER than mine, you fucking retard 🤣

[Chthou95]

Yours would still be higher dipshit. The standard goes based on general, not individual. When forming standards, you go based on the general consensus, not the exception

[normalice]

Nope. It's based on age and gender, retard.

[Chthou95]

It's based on gender differences which happen to fall under generalities. If that's the case why not let women play in the NBA with men?

[normalice]

Don't change the subject. The topic you chose to frame your question in is military service, retard. 45 year old men have lower physical standards than 18 year old women in the military. Due to age, of course, but that doesn't change the fact that shit heads such as yourself wouldn't protest sending 45 year old men.

[Chthou95]

Im making a comparison to make a point Wether itd be Nba or the military, there's a general standard based off gender. Men tend to be stronger, taller, can run faster, have higher lung capacity etc. Is there a woman out there who could hold her own with men and meet those standards? Sure but she's an exception to the rule and you don't change or make different standards based on a exception. You go based on the majority.

[Chthou95]

Old people don't belong in combat. But i stand by my point that women dont belong there either. Women aren't built for it

[normalice]

And yet I would do just fine.

[Chthou95]

No you wouldn't. Youd rely on G. i jane to help you

[normalice]

Nope, id rely on triggers and buttons.

[LazerMan]

dis stupid question me no get who idiot who voted option 2

[ManInChains]

Men, however women like to think they are.

[sirderpsalot123]

Men.