Should pro-life people adopt more children and/or become foster parents?

[Anonymous]

Since they women who don't want a baby to go through with the pregnancy instead of getting an abortion and say the woman should put the baby up for adoption, shouldn't pro-life people put their money where their mouths are?

There are many, many, many children in foster care waiting to be adopted. Where are the pro-life people? If they say "adoption, not abortion," why are any kids still in foster care? Should they all have been adopted by pro-life/ "adoption not abortion" folks?

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Look at the comments by "pro-life" people: they are basically saying "we have a right to force a woman to carry her pregnancy to term, but after that, we no longer care what happens to the baby. It's not our problem."

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Next time some "pro-life" person says "adoption, not abortion," refer them to this conversation and show that pro-lifers here don't think adopting unwanted babies is their problem.

[Anonymous]

Yes. And since you said "Next time some "pro-life" person says "adoption, not abortion," refer them to this conversation and show that pro-lifers here don't think adopting unwanted babies is their problem." we will refer them to the conversatiin you had with the other anon guy who provided the link stating Catholics adopt, proving pro lifers do adopt, since that proves they do it. And clearly since you let the answers of this wuestion be what you want us to refer to, that pf course includes that link. Either that link can represent majority of pro lifers, or the few answers you got that says no can’t since only a few people out of all prolifers answered this question. And we will refer them to the fact that you think the "most helpful answer" is one that says they should not adopt.

This way your update gets taken in support of prolifers, just like you wanted your second update to be.

[Asker]

there are 400k children in foster care.
If abortion is outlawed, there will be many more.
Shouldn't pro-life people adopt them all?
it would only take 400k pro-life families or couples. That's just a small portion of people who call themselves pro-life.
Sure 5% of pro-lifers adopt and that's more than the 2% national average, but considering pro-life mantra is "adoption, not abortion," shouldn't it be much higher?

[Opinion Owner]

You are the one who wrote "Next time some "pro-life" person says "adoption, not abortion," refer them to this conversation and show that pro-lifers here don't think adopting unwanted babies is their problem." as if the people answering here represents all pro-lifers, if you didn’t think they represent the pro lifers you wouldn’t want people to be directed here to see this link reasons.org/.../a-response-to-the-objection-that-christians-are-pro-birth-not-pro-life and to see that you think the most helpful answer is one saying pro-lifers shouldn’t adopt.
You want people to be directed here to see the conversation with that link.

You belive "No they shouldn't because then they pass on their values of non tolerance on to the next generation and frankly we need more of them to die out, not extend their beliefs further." is the best answer you got.
So clearly you belive they shouldn’t adopt otherwise you wouldn’t find a answer saying they shouldn’t helpful. So therefor ypu personaly belive it shouldn’t be higher otherwise that would not have been a helpful answer to you.

[Asker]

without abortion, adoption would be needed more.

[Opinion Owner]

So you just want them to not adopt so you can need abortion. You are the one who choose a answer saying that pro-lifers shpuldn’t adopt as best answer.

[lightbulb27]

yes they should. all churches should have a list... long list of those that are open to adopt not only unborn but already born. All children without parents should be absorbed into good, well trained parenting housholds. Do that immediately.

Other organizations do the same. There should be a mass competition for these children.

Once done with that... and there will be many slots open... we open up homes to sponsor migrants/refugees. It's not required, this is by choice.

Then we promote more missions to other countries as well as diplomatic/military to establish peace and order in those areas with major security issues.

problems solved.

[Anonymous]

You must be a Democrat because you have no problem telling others how they should spend their money. Why is it so difficult for people to take responsibility for their own actions?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

No they shouldn't because then they pass on their values of non tolerance on to the next generation and frankly we need more of them to die out, not extend their beliefs further.

[Guacamole409]

Should mothers be required to kill their own babies?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Are you talking about in general or are you asking if those getting abortions should have to perform their own and my retort to that is, should you have to do your own surgeries since you are modifying your body from what Christ gave you? I mean, let's say you need to have an emergency appendectomy. Should you be forced to do it yourself?

[Guacamole409]

Who should kill your baby?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Nobody should kill mine, especially since mine are 11 and 9, but if I were getting an abortion then it should be done by a medical professional.

[Guacamole409]

So the professional guides you through the process, but in the end, you need to pull the switch/trigger. It's now on YOU. This isn't all that complicated. You no longer have the luxury of playing the victim. Ending the life is all on you, and not a third person. Wouldn't that be the best way to do it?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Why would that be the best way to do it?

[Avicenna]

Well, anonymous genius, are you claiming no “pro-life” people who say that adopt? And not everyone is in the right set of circumstances to adopt.

Of course, what you are ignoring is that most of those kids in foster care may have leftist parents- why are you demanding these people, whatever their politics, take care of the children they brought into this world?

[Asker]

so you disagree with "adoption/ not abortion"?

[Avicenna]

Why don’t you answer the questions I asked you?

Should have been “why aren’t you demanding”……

[Asker]

why am I not demanding people in poverty, people who are addicted to drugs, people who are mentally ill not raise the children they could have had aborted?
You're the one demanding they carry their pregnancies to term. Do you think they should be forced to raise their children even if they don't have the capacity or wanted the kids?
You don't believe in "adoption, not abortion."

[Avicenna]

I don't think you're in any position to 1) tell strangers what they believe, 2) demand that anyone else adopt the children of people who were irresponsible, or 3) tell anyone else to get an abortion.

To begin with, who the hell are you to suggest that other people should have been aborted? Are the foster homes these children are in that terrible? And why should anyone assume that children in foster homes are better off dead than at having the chance at life?

Lots of people in poverty have children and successfully raise them- it can be done and there is a social welfare system that can help with some aspects.

Finally, I don't tell other people what they should do about an unexpected pregnancy.

[Anonymous]

pro-life people do adopt more children than pro-choice people

[Asker]

400k children in foster care would ask "where are they"?
And what's your proof for your statement?

[Opinion Owner]

pro-choice people far outnumber pro-life people

[Asker]

that's not proof

[Opinion Owner]

reasons.org/.../a-response-to-the-objection-that-christians-are-pro-birth-not-pro-life

[Asker]

Ok, I'll concede. Five percent of Catholics and evangelicals are likely to adopt as other groups.
Five percent put their money where their mouth is

[gatixek710]

Shouldn't pro abortion people perform abortions?

[Guacamole409]

Unbeknownst to this guy, he’s making his team out to be monsters.

[Asker]

they want women to have the option to have abortions. "Pro-life" think the woman should be forced to carry the baby to term, but after they don't care what happens to the baby.

[gatixek710]

So... as I said, pro abortion. Get in there and watch on the ultrasound while you vacuum the baby's brains out. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Asker]

Should every woman not in a position to care for a child or who doesn't want a child or was raped and got pregnat or whose fetus is deformed or not fully formed have to raise the child regardless of her circumstances?
Why do you think that's a better alternative than adoption?
Do you think the message "Adoption - not abortion" should not be used by pro-life people?

[gatixek710]

What percentage of abortions are the result of rape?

Standard rape procedures in the hospital are to administer plan B.

[SweetDripp]

So if I have a 2 yr old and can no longer afford to care for that child, should I be able to have that child euthanized? I'm hoping your answer is "of course not." But where is the line on when it is acceptable? That is (or at least should be) the only point of discussion.

[Asker]

@SweetDripp adoption, not euthanasia is what you pro-life people would say while at the same time saying "not my problem"

[Guacamole409]

@sweet,

Governor. Waltz of Minnesota let eight babies die on the examining table. They were victims of botched abortions. See the abortion didn’t work and now they’re living baby on a table. Just left to die. Trump tried to mention this during the last debate, but Kamala just cackled and smiled. She doesn’t care and obviously neither do the two corrupt moderators of the debate.

[Asker]

@Guacamole409 back to the question: if women are forced to carry their pregnancies to term, should they be forced to raise them even if they are in poverty, addicted to drugs, mentally unsound, etc?
The consensus here from "pro-lifers" seems to be "Yes, it's their problem. Why should anyone else care for the kids. After they are born, it's not up to us to care."

[Guacamole409]

I’ve never once in my life heard of a situation. Her mother was forced to raise their child.

[gatixek710]

@Guacamole409 I'm still waiting to find out how many abortions are necessary due to rape, especially understanding that administering plan-B is standard procedure for rape treatments in the hospital.

[Asker]

@Guacamole409 if no one is adopting these children, who is raising them?

[Asker]

what does that have to do with the question?
Should pro-life people put their money with their mouths are? If they say "adoption, not abortion," aren't they sayig a woman who doesn't want her child for any reason, have the child then put it up for adoption?
If they are, why aren't they giving those children a loving home instead of leaving them to foster care?
It's more proof pro-life people only care about other people's children if the children are still in the womb. Once the child is born, pro-life people stop caring.
Not one person on this topic has said "more people should be adopting children. Too many are in foster care. We can't keep saying 'adoption, not abortion.' if we don't adopt these children."

[gatixek710]

You stated that it was important to keep abortions around because women get raped. I'm asking to see how big of an issue that is, and if you actually know what you're talking about. So far the answer to the latter part is an apparent "no" and you just want to type nonsense platitudes without any actual thought behind it.

[Asker]

where did I say "it's important to keep abortions"?
I listed reasons a woman may not want to continue her pregnancy. Rape is just one of those reasons. I never said it was a big reason.

[Guacamole409]

I’m OK with abortions, I just want the mother to have to do the killing part.
It’s not fair to put that guilt on another person.

[gatixek710]

So get in there and suction a brain out a living baby. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Asker]

that's like saying "You support chemotherapy? Well, why don't you go in there and bombard the cells with radiation?"
You don't support abortion, nor do you think people who have unwanted pregnancies put their babies up for adoption even if those women are drug addicts, in poverty, and just don't want a baby, but you're "pro-life."
You're pro-fetus, not pro-life

[gatixek710]

When did I say people shouldn’t put their children up for adoption. And you keep forgetting, pregnancy doesn’t just happen magically.

[Asker]

so if abortion is outlawed and women who don't want their children give birth, should they raise the kids themselves, or should "pro-life" people step up and offer to adopt the kids?
If the latter, why aren't these people adopting kids out of foster homes?

[gatixek710]

How do women get pregnant?

[Asker]

answer my question, and I'll answer yours
:so if abortion is outlawed and women who don't want their children give birth, should they raise the kids themselves, or should "pro-life" people step up and offer to adopt the kids?"

[Guacamole409]

@asker

What exactly do you want?

[gatixek710]

Do you know how women get pregnant? Does it just randomly happen to a few million of them every month or so?

[Asker]

@Guacamole409 I want to know why the people who say "adoption no abortion" aren't adopting more kids? there are 400k kids in foster care.
Look at the comments here. People are saying that women who get pregnant should raise their own kids, not put them up for adoption. Even if the woman is in poverty, addicted to drugs, or flat out doesn't want the baby, the "pro-life" people are saying "not our problem." They want to protect the unborn child, but after the child is born, they stop caring. Read through the comments. NOT ONE SINGLE SO-CALLED PRO-LIFER HAS SAID WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO ADOPT UNWANTED CHILDREN.

[gatixek710]

So, a woman in poverty or a drug addict has no control whether she gets pregnant? Is that what you’re saying?

[Asker]

the fact you think women only have unwanted pregnancies because abortion is legal shows how naive you are.
Unwanted pregnancies lead to unwanted children, but you don't care. All you care about is the preventing the woman from getting an abortion.
Show me one single stat that shows in states were abortion is made illegal, there are fewer unwanted pregnancies.
By the way, thanks for proving pro-life people only care about children when they're unborn. I bet you want less welfare and benefits for poor parents, less sex ed in schools, and no free school lunches.

[gatixek710]

Again, how does pregnancy happen?

[jahaims]

Good attempt at using logic