We do care. That's why some of us take in foster care kids. But we have no control over bad decisions child services make not vetting foster parents good enough.
Personally I care more about the irresponsible sex people have knowing it's how babies are made. If men and women would use birth control and use it correctly, there's a 99% chance the woman isn't going to get pregnant. Therefore she doesn't have a baby to abort. And if they can get to the clinic to get an abortion, they can get there to get free birth control. How hard is that? Apoarently that's too much to ask.
And then if for some reason a pill is missed or a condom breaks there's plan B available at any pharmacy. There's no excuses. If there's any excuse at all, it would only be for woman who were raped. But even they can use plan B and they only account for 1% of abortions. And only 0.5% are because of incest. The other 98.5% of abortions are because are irresponsible and selfish. Because they know if they get pregnant, they can have a doc dismember it and suck it out of them. And no regard for the pain the fetus feels dying that way. How would you like to have someone rip off your arms, legs, and or head?
So you can say pro-life people are full of shit. At least I'm not condoning irresponsible sex and a torturous death of an innocent life. I'd much rather someone assume I don't care what happens to them if they are born. by the way, abuse happens to kids other than ones in foster care. Child abuse is a whole different problem that many try to stop when they become aware of it.
Also there are pro life clinics that will help the mother when they don't abort. So full of shit I think not.
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Even though I am 100% pro choice all the way, the statement you're making is woefully flawed for several reasons.
1. Not all biological parents or adopted parents provide loving and stable homes for children, hence, there IS a foster care system as a result of that.
2. Just because one is pro-life doesn't mean they don't care about children once they are born, but they cannot, nor can anybody, prevent all harm coming to all kids, or make people adopt children. Not everyone who is pro-life can afford to or has the time to be a parent and adopt or foster.
3. There is a lot wrong with foster care, but there is also a lot right with it, in that there are so many people, including a neighbor of mine, who provide loving stable environments for kids in transition.
I think if a pro-lifer is actively going after and trying to cancel and vote against programs that assist new mothers or focus on things like condom distribution, then, okay, I would see more to your point, but even if you disagree with a lot of what they do and say, which I do, we can't be so trigger happy on the "everyone is bad" train because they disagree with you.
What children go through in foster care really doesn't change anything. The prospect of *living* trumps any death or suffering. However bad their life may be is irrelevant, because in the end, they would rather live than die... and that's the point.
You can abort a baby with serious deformities, and people will pat themselves on the back thinking they saved the child a life of absolute misery. But did they really? Because at the same time, had that deformed child been born, grown up, experienced life no matter how bad it may have been for them... they might still somehow find value in living.
Is this not fair?
Conservatives/Republicans here in America don't give a damn about life and children as they claim they do with their anti abortion stands which is smoke and mirrors just to oppose Democrats for show.
You ask conservatives and republicans about creating social programs to make sure single moms can have enough money and assistance for housing and food, paid parental leave to take care of their new born and healthcare for them and their baby and they scoff and reject all proposed legislation yet claim they care about babies. Bunch of hypocrites.
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I know the question is geared toward aborted children suffering from having a messed up life. They need to simplify the American adoption system. But they are busy finding over 2 million illegals homes, food, shelter, clothes, free medical care and everything thing else they are entitled to get from USA 🇺🇸. Now we have over 100 thousand refugees from Ukraine. The babies/children that need assistance with living fall by the way side. I remember Americans adopted children from China because they were easy to adopt. Now times have changed between USA and China. Any way we look at it, the American children are suffering and America is helping the illegals instead of them. It's very very sad, and not right. They didn't ask to be born.
There is a long waiting list of 2 to 3 years to adopt newborns, the pro-life crowd is clearly adoption them out as fast as they can.
Often times though, children in foster care are there temporarily, and foster parents can't adopt them until the legal system terminates parental rights.
People don't want to adopt older problematic children that came from problem homes, they want the newborns.
I for one don't want them to adopt older children if they don't think they can handle them, it would only be worse on the child if things don't work out.I’m raising three children that aren’t mine right now. Their parents are addicts and mother died for overdose. Many do help children that aren’t theirs. The ones that don’t have different reasons to not do it. There was a time that I could barely feed myself much less another child. Also, it’s not like bringing that up that you adopted a child would matter anyways because most pro choice people don’t think that you should have to give birth to a baby if you don’t want to for the baby to even be put up for adoption.
Due to my experiences in the Foster Care system, I'm someone that is pro-life. I look back fondly on my time in the Foster Care system. Those two individuals who took my brother and I in and treated us as their own did a wonderful job. Just because there are a few bad apples doesn't mean the entire system is messed up. There are awful people in all parts of society. Bad cops, bad teachers, bad nurses, bad doctors, and so on.
You are generalizing unfairly. It’s a really unhealthy way to approach discourse. However, to point out what is happening, many people are not in the situation where they can confidently offer a safe and productive home to a child (you’re quick to call out, do you foster?) But pro life people CAN avoid abortions to give that child life.
The righteous question is: Why do you let so many children suffer in foster care❓ What connection are you trying to make between Pro-life and available children, please❓
——FYI, it was the Puritan Pro-lifers that brought Orphanages TO and ACROSS International Date Line, mate…. They still be on the street like Phuket IF it was not for Biblical living Pro-lifers…
Phuket awaits your service being you are so close and concerned. Think what you could do for the child trafficking there‼️So you generalize all pro-life people, many of whom do support foster care with some even adopting the children.
In other words you’re stereotyping pro-life people, judging them for the world’s problems (providing for, educating, and raising a child) and applying some ridiculously unfair standard to them.
Its like blaming someone who doesn’t believe in legalizing marijuana for not going out and arresting drug dealers. It’s a ridiculous belief.Its a cold world a lot of people didn't grow up with bad lifes so they assume irs rare a child would have a fucked life in foster care but forget mist orphans become degenerates and fill the prisons because nobody cared about them. Just a waste if life anyway
Their position is actually quite consistent and easy to understand. They aren't anti-suffering; they believe that people should get both the good and the bad consequences of their actions. They also believe murder is wrong and that life begins at contraception so therefore abortion is murder. They would also be against the murder of that child in foster care or at any other time in their life.
If you are living in the US you are in a good position. Believe me I have traveled round the world and you do not know how bad humans can have it. And even those people in third world countries have it good compared to people a hundred years ago. Additionally republicans donate more than democrats to charity.
People are lined up for babies , My niece adopted an Hispanic baby. My Brother adopted an Hispanic baby, my sister n law's brothers adopted black babies.
Some may not. I am sure it is worse in liberal areas but Conservatives and Christians adopt.
Now a kid would be better off being not adopted than being brought up by liberals. Since they will have no morals. From gay sex , lying, cheating, to murder.Misrepresent conservative arguments. Its not anyones responsibility to owe anyone else a certain standard of living. Whether you grow up rich or in a slum, conservatives believe all lives have value. The proof if you need some is go ask some poor person in the worst slum in the world if they wish they were dead. They don't. So why do you think you know better than them that they should have been killed instead?
If pro-choice people care so much about not having children why do they not use condoms?
Adopting is a long process. Sure we can take the kid in temporarily but when the system works against people who are willing to become parents, blame it on the system, not the person wanting to be a parent
so true, not being treated well in foster care is quite a problem, and i'm all for making foster cares a better place. i really do hope that one days foster cares will improve.
You have no idea what they do. Many adopt children and provide foster care. You are just making a wild accusation without any factual basis
Because they need people like you?
Honestly, you talk like everyone has a choice in the matter.And keep having kids they know they can't afford, may not survive or are going to require massive medical care there whole lives if they survive all because their religion frowns on birth control!
They aren't "pro-life", they are authoritarians who look for any opportunity to tell someone else what to do.
That's accusation, not a fact. Many pro-life people work at Child Protection, Adoption Homes.
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