Scientists say they know how to suck the carbon out of the air, but politicians aren't interested in solving the problem. Why?

[bluesparrow]

Why are the biggest climate nuts, the biggest offenders of the climate?

Is there no where in DC for Biden to sleep? It has to be on the beach of Delaware?

Could this just be another way to bilk money out of tax payers?

[Lliam]

CO2 in the atmosphere isn't the problem. The people who say it is all drive gas guzzling cars, fly in private jets, own yachts, and live lavish lifestyles.

The purpose of the carbon hoax is to gain control over people's lives and to monopolize every resource on the planet, including air, water, food, and minerals.

The Earth is more than capable of regulating CO2 if people weren't polluting the oceans, clear cutting forests, using agricultural poisons that sterilize soil, and spraying our skies with "climate modification" chemicals (chemtrails).

It's not even clear that man-made CO2 is causing global warming. The Earth's climate fluctuates naturally and regulates itself.
Our atmosphere contains 0.04% CO2 and human activity has accounted for maybe 0.01% of that.
Plants need CO2 to live. Greenhouses even have CO2 generators to increase production.
Plants eat CO2 and produce oxygen. How can we live if plants die?

And it's not clear that green energy solutions cause less pollution and damage to the environment when one considers the mining, transportation, processing, production and construction involved.

[bluesparrow]

Brilliant!

This video is funny, because even liberals can only take so much stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbD
Skip to 2:25

[exitseven]

I have heard that the beer makers do not have enough CO2 to make beer. That is where the real crisis is.

[Pohjolan]

"It's not even clear that man-made CO2 is causing global warming."
Then do prove that our current measurements of CO2:s radiation absorption/adsorption are incorrect and get yourself a nice nobel.

[bluesparrow]

@Pohjolan

This isn't even about science. You either walk the walk, or shut up. (I'm not directing this at you)

[Pohjolan]

@bluesparrow
"This isn't even about science."
Lliam made a statement contradicting current known measurements AND the practical applications based on it.
Look this isn't complicated.
Either the cause of global warming is true on a molecular level or the whole scientific community all over the world is part of the largest hoax ever. Before your average person had even heard about global warming.

[Lliam]

@Pohjolan. The entire scientific community is not part of the hoax. Only those who are bought off are. But those whose honest research does not confirm the desired narrative are blocked, banned, mocked, discredited and defunded by the the extremely powerful people who profit from the hoax.

The same thing happened with covid.

[Pohjolan]

@Lliam
"@Pohjolan. The entire scientific community is not part of the hoax."

No you don't get to eat your cake and eat it too.
Any well equipped university can measure this and according to you we all are in on the hoax.
You might as well claim that 0 K is actually -190 Celcius.

[Lliam]

@Pohjolan. You are obviously one of those who doesn't believe in science but, rather, "the" science, as if there is ever a scientific consensus.

By the way, who funds universities? And are researcher's jobs secure if they go against the grain?

I know it's hard for you grasp my original comment because you never heard it in corporate media.

[Lliam]

Thanks for the MHO, bluesparrow!

[Pohjolan]

@Lliam
I don't think you understand how the scientific method works.
According to you all who do the measurements report independently of each other the same incorrect numbers on purpose since we have been able to measure them.
Tell me how exactly they would coordinate this?
Does every facility have the wrong numbers written next to the instruments?
How would say China be forced to play along in this farce?

[bluesparrow]

You're welcome.

[Lliam]

@Pohjolan. You haven't researched other opinions on CO2 and weather by scientists. All you have heard is the popular narrative.
And in the scientific method there is never consensus. Scientists question popular theories all the time. That's what science is.
Also ask yourself who benefits from the popular narrative. I already explained that. Jeeeez, did you even read my original comment?

[Pohjolan]

@Lliam
"@Pohjolan. You haven't researched other opinions on CO2 and weather by scientists."
Why would I be researching opinions?

"All you have heard is the popular narrative."
No. Unlike you I didn't sleep in class.

"And in the scientific method there is never consensus."

Of course there is. Within a reasonable margin of error like everyone can confirm the boiling point of ethanol.
Your alleged conspiracy dates back to 1861 so everyone in the field is in on the plan for over a century.
And do you have any competing theory? Hmmm?

[exitseven]

The objective isn't cleaner air. Any moron knows that electric cars will not make clean air. The real objective is to make China the world superpower.

[bluesparrow]

Most morons don't know where most of the electricity comes from.

[exitseven]

Yes, and the effect on the environment in manufacturing all those batteries and what will happen once the batteries die and people dump them by the highway and all that toxic metals leach into the water table.

[bluesparrow]

I think that when the battery is just about depleted, the car owner will just sell or trade in the car.

[exitseven]

I heard that nobody wants to buy a used electric car because you never know when you have to replace a $20,000 battery a year after you buy the car.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[RavVid]

It is not challenging to remove CO2 from the air. You could freeze it out because it turns into a solid at -78.5 C. You could remove by chemical reaction - it is feedstock for plastics manufacture so it has value.

You could grow lush plants and capture that way.

I am disappointed with how coal power stations have been treated. Most are only 30 percent thermo dynamic efficient but 60% efficient is possible by burning hotter. Effort should have gone into scrubbing CO2 from the exhaust plumes.

Greens are a major climate threat because they are technically incompetent.

[bluesparrow]

I think if we tax the shit out of it, it will go away.

[RavVid]

Most energy goes away too.

A left wing gov't decided to close a local power station and projected power prices as unaffected. The day it did close, wholesale prices tripled at opening of the electricity market. The major distributors would not write supply contracts. Some retailers went bust.

I was lucky to get my apartment building out of it for a sustainable cost. I had to lie about our consumption to get a better tariff and work on making it so post factum.

The problem is if the cost of electricity is unsustainable most people are not going to accept that. The ability to tax is limited by ballot box rebellions.

[WindAtMyBack]

Sounds like a pipe dream. I'm not buying it. Of course you can remove CO2, but I'm not buying for a minute that something like that would be significant.

How about:

1) Do something about over population
2) Stop cutting and burning forests.
3) Start planting more trees.

[bluesparrow]

Sure. Maybe tomorrow.

[MisterWack]

The issue is, it isn’t just about capturing the carbon from the air… It is about STOPPING CO2 & other emissions like Methane into the air that traps the Sun’s heat in a greenhouse sort of effect.

Humans need to change how we obtain our food, how we consume goods, travel, etc.

A solution would’ve been to stay locally, local commuting, buying locally sourced material, and use less electricity also be mindful of consumption though it is easier said than done.

[bluesparrow]

You are full of shit.

[MisterWack]

@bluesparrow I was answering the question and I completed answering, you can disagree the planet is on fucking fire but we have all seen the fall leaves changing color in southern areas when we had to travel north to see it back since ever & forest fires are through the roof & insane droughts & insane flooding. I don’t care if you see it differently because these are the facts.

[bluesparrow]

The facts are that the rich who control you, don't give a fuck about climate change.

[Dargil]

Carbon dioxide is plant food if carbon dioxide doubled to 800 ppm, world hunger would end despite leftist dictators. Man caused global warming is the greatest hoax in modern history.

[bluesparrow]

But for some, it's their religion, just like Covid was.

[Pohjolan]

"Man caused global warming is the greatest hoax in modern history."

Then do prove that our current measurements of CO2:s radiation absorption/adsorption are incorrect and get yourself a nice nobel.

[NaultD]

Climate change is a thing and carbon is a physical object. Look at tree's that giant mass isn't from the ground or even all the water inside. It's a giant carbon mass and why theirs energy in charcoal and camp fires that burn back into co2.

So recapture isn't a solution it's just moving the problem with extra energy that is more then likely coal powered. So unless we have cold fusion power plants recapture is a net negative to global warming.

[msc545]

They prefer to spend the money it costs - on themselves.

[MisterWack]

@msc545 Bluesparrow doesn’t believe in climate change even when the facts show it. Ignore them, don’t waste your breath on them.

[msc545]

I blocked them and I'm glad I did.

[bluesparrow]

@MisterWack

Talk to me directly.

[msc545]

Nobody wants to talk to you with your attitude.

[msc545]

LOL!

[gatixek710]

Wait their plan is to suck the very material plants need to “breathe” out of the air? And people support this? Lol.

[bluesparrow]

No, their plan is not to double the national debt because of a hoax.

[gatixek710]

No the first pic you posted has a plan to suck c02 out of the atmosphere.

[bluesparrow]

take out the "not"

[noohair]

There is no money in that solution for the Professional Political aoverseer Class.

[bluesparrow]

Good point.

[trsavas]

Because politicians are not affected by these problems

[bluesparrow]

They just want to get money out of the deal.

[trsavas]

We agree with you on some issues 😁😁😁.

[bluesparrow]

Good

[trsavas]

Can I follow you?

[bluesparrow]

Okay

[MrGSpotHer]

Well from what I understand we need carbon it's the added pollution that's the problem isn't it, I mean we are carbon based so should we rid the world of us too? It would definitely help the planet if we did though...

[bluesparrow]

Plants crave it.

[MrGSpotHer]

I don't know mine haven't given me any killing intentions yet

[bluesparrow]

Watch your back.

[MrGSpotHer]

Well I actually try to be a mushroom so I give off non threatening vibes at night they understand I feel like they do I sympathise to the cause

[bluesparrow]

Oh, yes. I remember you saying that. What is it? They keep you in the dark and feed you shit?

[MrGSpotHer]

No I'm human shit would kill me but the dark is one thing them pesky 👽 up to no good I tell you

[bluesparrow]

Haitians.

[MrGSpotHer]

What's that some new kind of COVID or something

[bluesparrow]

Kind of. They came from the bat cave.

[MrGSpotHer]

And that's what is laced with pollution on the spread right now, makes sense they hide it there villains in plane sight

[slatyb]

Not at scale.

[bluesparrow]

What?

[slatyb]

It's not a simple problem, and there's no simple solution.

[bluesparrow]

Kamala said she will fix it with a tax.

[slatyb]

A carbon tax would be a very good idea.