Is Israel trying to evict or kill everyone in Gaza so it can settle the land?

[msc545]

[Anonymous]

Israel intends that after this is over there will be no more attacks on it from gazza ever again. Every time the Palestinians have attacked Israel they've been punished with the lose of territory. If the war ended tomorrow and the un and Muslim countries poured in aid to rebuild gaza where would that money go?

It's important to remember hamas is using civilians and children as human sheilds and propaganda tools. Recently I watched a whole load of footage on Al jazeera of starving children and they genuinely were starving, their parents were giving interviews. The parents weren't starving, they looked well fed.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I think that their goal. At first I thought they wanted revenge from October 7, but now I believe they want people from Gaza to disappear. The same way, I think they want to kill the Lebanese and perhaps the Iranians too.

[Opinion Owner]

* that's their goal

[msc545]

I think they literally want to kill or displace every non-Jewish person from Gaza and replace them all with Israeli settlers, thus expanding Israel.

[Opinion Owner]

I absolutely agree with you. To think that Jewish people were persecuted, expelled and killed in Europe and now they're doing the same to the people from Gaza is so ironic and sad.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Yes, then West Bank, then as much of Lebanon as possible too. It is pretty obvious.

It is plainly a conquest. I don't care, tbh. I just wish Isreal would stop the "I am the victim, poor me" facade they are famous for.

[Subtle_Luminescence]

That's what they have been doing since decades with entire Palestine. They came as refugees, should've stayed that way. From refugees to illegal occupiers, they've come a long way.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Bibi & Likud are experts at self created opportunism and this is the finale while the ultra right wing forms his unstable coalition in the Knesset, now is the right time and they know they can tell any POTUS to GFY and still get arms while we dutifully watch Iran while they commit their genocide. We're a good lapdog for them.

[exitseven]

They would like to Evict t them but the only way to end this conflict I to wipe them out

[DrPepper12]

Not very Christian of you...

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 wasn't very Christian to kill all those civilians.

[DrPepper12]

No it wasn't Christian. Cotrrct. Christians would have eradicated them first on their to do list If history is any guide.

"Killing all the civilians" was an entirely predictable reaction to +70 years of theft, martial law, terrorism, apartheid, murder, imprisonment, beatings and deprivation of human rights

[msc545]

@DrPepper12 Yes - the Israelis did all those things for years, and predictably just decided to finish it.

[DrPepper12]

Oooooookkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy

[ehatsham_hussain]

Yes , it's crystal clear policy of Israel..
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[lightbulb27]

killing off hamas means killing every man and most children.

did I mis interpret anything?

I've seen no evidence of eviction.

This is why in essence, they are losing...

It's a tough spot they are in, both...

[msc545]

The Israelis are not losing.

[Agape93]

Nope, just kill off the militants hiding in structures and amongst civilians. Israel wants their innocent civilians back. Return em, Israel stops the attacks. Simple as that.

[DrPepper12]

There are no innocents in this quagmire.

[Agape93]

Yeah, there are. The civilians who were kidnapped and gang raped and mutilated by terrorists, still held hostage a year later. They're innocent, nobody else is

[Anonymous]

If they wanted to kill everyone, what's taking so long? That can be done much more effectively and much more politically advantageously if done quickly. Why why hasn't it happened?

[msc545]

I'm not sure why except that Gaza is a lot bigger than it looks on the map, and there are or were a lot of people. Israel seems intent on killing every one of them

[Opinion Owner]

If they wanted to do that, why haven't they just firebombed the place and burned it to the ground. It's actually easier to do that than what they have been doing. You just carpet bomb the place.

[msc545]

Well, they have to do the job of using up expensive US munitions using money the US government gave them for this purpose, or the US arms manufacturers will get upset. This all is just a way for the US arms manufacturers to receive US tax money with Israel acting ad the middleman. That cannot stop.

[Opinion Owner]

So then they're NOT trying to kill everyone--they're trying to use expensive weaponry.

[msc545]

Well, actually both. Those things go together nicely for them.

[Opinion Owner]

If they wanted to kill everyone, there would be FAR more deaths than there have been.

[msc545]

We only know what they tell us, and I think they publicly tend to minimize deaths.

[Opinion Owner]

No. We also know what they HAVEN'T done and what they COULD do. They HAVEN'T carpet bombed the place which they absolutely could do. Ergo, we KNOW they aren't interested in maximizing casualaties.

[msc545]

They want to keep some of the existing infrastructure, and not make the entire place toxic. Also, carpet bombing would be too expensive.

If you think they are not doing this because they care about saving Arab lives, you don't understand this situation. They are trying to *exterminate* the entire population of Gaza.

[Opinion Owner]

Dude--it's WAAAAAAYYYYYY cheaper to carpet bomb. You don't need ANY smart ordinance for that. Exterminating a population in a densely populated area is actually pretty cheap and pretty easy. WELL within the power of Israel to accomplish today or for that matter months ago.

If they CAN do it. . .

And they HAVEN'T done it. . .

Then they quite clearly DON'T WANT to do it!

Simples!

[msc545]

Well - apparently they do NOT want to do it as they presently ARE doing it. They simply want all the people that live there to either leave or die. That seems very obvious.

[Opinion Owner]

No--it doesn't seem obvious at all. Mostly because there are so many of them still there.

[msc545]

How do you know how many of them are there? You keep talking as if you've been there and I don't think you have.

[Sevenpointfive]

kill and displace, but kill mostly. i wish the east would respond to this disgusting behavior

[KrakenAttackin]

Perhaps. If so, Hamas gave them the perfect excuse.

[Anonymous]

No, they have managed it before last Christmas if that was the goal

[Kelley1]

That is their intent.

[Astarlessnightsky]

I would guess thats the plan.

[goaded]

Prime waterfront real-estate.

[Staximus]

It's kind of hard to kill hamas when they use civilians as human shields like cowardly dogs

[msc545]

no it is easy. The Israelis just kill everyone since there is no way to tell the difference and they don't care anyway.

[Staximus]

Think it's easy for us because we are not over there to just think that there will be peace of Israel stops their military offensive, stops occupying Palestinian lands, etc. that's just wishful thinking. There is no negotiating or peace with radical Muslims even if they have the whole country, and then they will kill all the Jews because they think they are fighting a holy war for the holy land. Those people over there don't think like you and me and you are foolishly projecting if you think they can or do. You're dealing with religious fanatics and unfortunately nobody is going to convince them to be peaceful. Religion is the problem here, religion is fucking stupid. We should evacuate the holy land and bomb it back to the fucking Stone age and let the rats and cockroaches fight over it.

[Staximus]

Just all the dumb Muslims killed all the dumb Christians during the Crusades. It's just the Crusades all over again, except it's the Muslims versus the Jews instead of the Muslims versus the Christians

[Staximus]

You're never going to convince or reason with fanatics to be peaceful when they think they have God behind them

[msc545]

How do you know all of that? Have you met them or talked to them?

[Staximus]

One of my old co-workers was from Egypt. He was Muslim but he was a regular Muslim, not a radical crazed fanatic. He said there's no reasoning with those people, they believe they are fighting a holy war

[msc545]

He might have been right based on my own knowledge.

[Cheerfull009]

Yes, want to occupy complete Gaza

[coachTanthony]

Yes once and for all

[noohair]

Got your Kool-Aid here.

[OddBeMe]

I'd imagine that convo was had in Jerusalem.

[Juxtapose]

No lol they don't want another Oct 7th.

[Cubus]

Yes.