Do you agree that Jordan Neely was killed only because of his *SPEECH* ?

[msc545]

[lightbulb27]

No. I suspect its due to past history in NYc where people were killed and murdered. Most were scared of his speech and energy.


Truth is he was killed because people have no compassion for those that failed and the parents and system and he himself failed.

[slatyb]

He was threatening the other passengers. That is not protected speech. We are reluctant to force people into treatment, and incidents like this one are the result.

[msc545]

You are not allowed to assault or kill people based on their speech.

[Sevenpointfive]

no. he was killed because some idiot tried to be a hero

[exitseven]

When you start to threaten to kill people you put yourself into danger. It is like if you point a gun at somebody without the intention that you will kill them.

[msc545]

Why do you not understand you cannot KILL PEOPLE for threatening you?

[exitseven]

If somebody threatens to kill you , you do not know if they are armed or have some special martial arts skill. Toy have to take each threat as real. If you do not it could cost you your life. I would rather err on the side of safety.

[msc545]

Yeah, that's fine. But trying to kill somebody because of what they said. Turns out to be illegal. I suggest that you don't do that.

[exitseven]

If they threaten to kill me or their family, there is only one logical response to that. It is still a kill or be killed world and we are going in the wrong direction

[msc545]

So kill them and risk prison.

[DrPepper12]

He was restrained because he was correctly seen as a threat. His death was an accident

[msc545]

He was assaulted because the assailant didn't like what he was saying. Not doing - because he actually really did NOTHING AT ALL except die.

[Graptemys79]

I don't know who that is.

[msc545]

Why is it you seem to know nothing?

[Graptemys79]

I know a lot. I just don't care about pop culture or all the political vitriol.

[Graptemys79]

I have heard of the case, but did not know the names of those involved.

[msc545]

Ok, then stop responding to questions that might require you to do a little research.

[Graptemys79]

I can respond to any question I want. And I did do the research. I don't understand why he was killed, but it appeared that he was threatening someone and was on drugs.

[msc545]

You cannot legally or morally kill people because you dislike their speech or because they use drugs.

[msc545]

It is against the law to do this unless of course you are white and they are black or maybe brown.

[Graptemys79]

Don't make this about race. Did he threaten someone? Did the man who restrained him intend him to die? These are important questions that presumably were addressed in court.

[msc545]

It is aways about race. Where are you from?

[Graptemys79]

So, if he were a white guy acting in the exact same manner, you think he would not have been restrained?

[msc545]

Most probably he would not have been.