So... you're a right wing populist... What salute would you absolutely not do?

[OddBeMe]

I'm not worried Elon is Hitler. I'm more worried about who the fck Trump is giving power to. Everyone who did a favor for him is getting some stupid govt job.

Theyre fcking idiots.

[goaded]

I love that some people are claiming it wasn't a proper Sieg Heil, because they're the ones that would know! Seriously, watch the video, it's not like the still images that happen to show people with one arm in that position for a single frame.

And the audience (and US Nazis) loved it.

[Dongie]

No, you'd be the one to know. It's in your blood.

[goaded]

@Dongie Gosh, I live in Germany in the 21st century, so I must be a Nazi. You know what it was.

[Dongie]

What's the difference in saying they reside in America?

[goaded]

@Dongie I'm not saying all Americans are Nazis or it's in your blood. But you currently have audiences cheering when one of the people closest to the president performs an unmistakable Nazi salute. If you cheer on Nazi behaviour, you're a Nazi. It's simple.

[OddBeMe]

Or that the right's priorities don't include apparent nazi salutes or "good people on both sides."

[Dongie]

Hehe, gouda cheese, you are so riled up. Push that liberal biased corn dog! 😂

[goaded]

@Dongie Did the audience cheer when Musk performed his salute?

[Dongie]

Why don't you tell me nazi! You're the one who is so interested in the whole thing. Why not give it up? We all know you understand this thing. You think you can get goats by harping on with it. Believe me, you just look like a fool.

[goaded]

@Dongie Why, yes. Yes, the Nazis in the audience went absolutely wild when Musk did his Nazi salute. Why do you think that was?

[RavVid]

Hmmh. In my city we are expected to hail trams (US street cars?) to stop for us. The official drawing on how to hail shows the right arm raised to a 45 degree angle with the hand inline with the arm.

I do think these Gen Z's, could have thought more on the how to hail a tram drawing.

[purplepoppy]

Why wouldn't he do it? Short of putting swastikas on his rockets he's never hid his views. The fact is now they've won there's no need to be discreet, they can goose step on the white House lawn and there's nothing you can do.

[Anonymous]

I think he was thrusting his arm up into the sky like a spaceship taking off for Mars, which is what he was talking about

[OddBeMe]

Rockets don't take off like that.

[goaded]

And he was talking about the election, nothing to do witth rockets. Watch the video.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded I thought he was talking about sending humans to Mars

[goaded]

Why would you think that? It's a very short video, just watch it!

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded yeah, but that’s just a short clip. And it might’ve been taken out of context.

I watched the inauguration and I could’ve sworn when he did that gesture he was talking about going to Mars. Maybe that video clip is an AI fake? I don’t usually like to suggest such things, but it directly contradicts my memory of just two days ago.

[goaded]

It is the context. You can listen to the words at the same time. And no, it's not an AI fake, plenty of people saw it happen in real time and commented on it on news shows.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded I’m sorry. I definitely remember him talking about Mars when he made that gesture. And I prefer to believe my own memory over a video.

[goaded]

You can refresh your memory, he was talking about the election. It's in the video.

[Spencer10]

What I find very interesting is the new American Oligarchs do not even feel the need to hide their Fascist tendencies. It used to be that white supremacists and Neo Nazis would stay hidden in the gutters of society... now its gone mainstream and prime time!

[lightbulb27]

as long as they don't go rounding up and killing a bunc of people, it's a good gesture to those whom voted for the policies he agrees with.

I see no resemblance to hitler...

nice try...

[SolitarySolace]

Leftists are so fragile anything that even looks close to an association with nazi germany has to be fascist 🤣 It’s getting old. Try something else

[OddBeMe]

When you're a far right populist... yes.

[Anonymous]

Obama and Kamala also did the Nazi salute. cancel them too?

[OddBeMe]

Actual video?

[goaded]

Of course there's no video of that, it would ruin the lie.

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme @goaded oh no is a hand gesture keeping you awake all night? is therapy failing to get you to have a proper night's sleep?

[goaded]

Did you know internet trolls have a personality disorder? ↗

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded nice projection there. you and butt buddy OddBeMe practically live on the internet

[goaded]

Pointing out the lies of trolls.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded your entire existence is to be an online troll and you suck at it

[goaded]

Just because I don't lie, and you trolls do.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded bruh you cite fake news media sources all the time

[goaded]

That's just another of your lies.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night

[goaded]

I sleep just fine, because I know you're a troll with a personality disorder and I'm not the one lying.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded sure you do, as long as you check under your bed for the Trump boogeyman

[goaded]

@OddBeMe Why do you allow anonymous opinions? They're almost always trolls.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded maybe because you and OddBeMe have gone anonymous too

[OddBeMe]

Have we? Our screen names are there for anyone to see our history. I do give chicks a break on anons because they'd be harassed with dick pics.

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme why are you harassing chicks with your dick pics then?

[OddBeMe]

Oh i don't. I know no one wants dick pics.

[Opinion Owner]

you've got no dick pics to send except your dildo pics

[OddBeMe]

I wish my intellect was low enough to accept that as a zinger.

[Opinion Owner]

your intellect is non-existent to begin with

[JonCobretti]

I'm big time MAGA but let me tell you that Trump nor any leader in modern world can pull off this level of support../

[exitseven]

It was a wave to the crowd. The fake news is at it again. They lost and need to give it up.

[goaded]

I always thump my chest before waving, too.

[OddBeMe]

It wasn't a wave. But just as a rule, id say far right populist should avoid this

[exitseven]

@goaded when you ar ethe richest guy in the world you can get away with it.

[goaded]

So, you're not even pretending that there are moral standards any more? Or are they just for Democrats?

[exitseven]

@goaded did you actually see Elons speech or are you just being spoon-fed the picture that looks sort of like a salute?

[goaded]

Unlike the still pictures of various Democratic politicians who really were just waving, Elon's Nazi salutes are unmistakable, which is why US Nazis were ecstatic about it (at least until they were told to turn it down). Just watch the damn video at the top.

He's not talking about rockets, he's playing to his crowd. He and Trump are also planning to stop having real elections, by pretending that elections are vulnerable when not one state has found any problems with their presidential ballots. If they can convince low information voters elections are unsafe, they can ignore the midterms and the next presidential election.

This is what you're doing to the country.

[Kelly6]

@OddBeMe i love his salute 😊

the main reason this become big issue is that all media companies are owned by them and they don’t like Elon.

[OddBeMe]

Them who?

[Anonymous]

Remember when he was the darling of you liberals. What changed other than having his kid's genitals mutilated

[OddBeMe]

I remember us liberals demanding he pay more taxes. Probably why he joined trump

[Opinion Owner]

Nah that's just california. They are greedy for taxes.

[OddBeMe]

No that's all libtards. We see tech billionaires lining up behind Republicucks and get worried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQCd-NyN0Ds

[Opinion Owner]

How is that different than the billionaires behind the military industrial complex lining up behind Biden?

[OddBeMe]

When did they line up behind biden?

[Opinion Owner]

When the Ukraine war was happening. It was the happy time

[OddBeMe]

I love when you fucks run out of logic and throw to left field

Ukraine war is still happening by the way

[Opinion Owner]

Not out of left field.
The disastrous year of 2022 was a fruitful one for the US MIC. Except for Boeing's market value shrinking because of its alleged "supply chain problems," the other four companies in the "Big Five" all increased by more than $10 billion in annual market value - Northrop Grumman added $16.4 billion, Lockheed Martin $16 billion, Raytheon Technologies $14.8 billion, and General Dynamics $10.8 billion, the Global Times found.

[OddBeMe]

Don't get me started on defense spending. But that doesn't mean I'm for letting a fascist take over a democratic country.

And the billionaires standing behind trump have seen their billions quadruple recently. Or do you care?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueMG9A-tWA

[Sevenpointfive]

that means shut up and let me talk i'm not finished. that is not the sieg heil

[OddBeMe]

Seriously?

[Sevenpointfive]

that's what i do

[goaded]

Lie? We can watch the video to see exactly what he was doing and saying (and how his audience reacted).

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded i don't have time to watch it unless you link me a short clip. i'd be interested

[goaded]

It is a short clip. 38 seconds. Not much longer than it took you to write that you don't have time to watch it.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded my heart goes out to you. it is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured. sig hiel mofo!

i added that at the end. but if you're going to thought police then start in your homeland.

[goaded]

So, did you watch it? Was he saying "shut up and let me talk i'm not finished"?

Or was he making US Nazis have spontaneous orgasms?

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded it's hard to say because i don't think he's a nazi. i think he's a great ally to the cause and he might be the next president

[goaded]

So you don't care about the constitution or that Musk is playing to US Nazis (who seem to have been in large numbers in the audience).

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded i do care. i'm trying to uphold the constitution. the people that you call nazis aren't nazis. it's a faction to stop immigration. it's very small, but the idea is big. and it needs to be

[goaded]

Musk can't be president. He's not a natural born citizen. That's something that's in the constitution you're pretending you're "trying to uphold". As to "the people that you call nazis aren't nazis", they're people who are cheering a Nazi salute by someone very close to the president.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded my friend forwarded me a picture of a lot of democrats holding this salute. the meme said something like, it only matters when elon does it.

[goaded]

Yes, your echo chamber has come up with a bunch of stills where people's arms are in that position. The difference is that everybody knows that any video including them would show they weren't performing a salute.

And I get accused of being told what to believe all the time! Believe your own eyes.

[OddBeMe]

Feel free to send videos of Dems doing a nazo salute. I imagine the pics were gesturing. Not actually doing a fcking sing heil even if the right wing populist didn't mean it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2aFGuLvVgE

[Sevenpointfive]

meh. he's south African. they are a little weird. you can't call an African a nazi

[goaded]

You can. He wasn't being "a little weird", he was doing a Nazi salute to an adoring crowd. That's what Nazis do.

Of course it's a distraction from Trump pardoning people like the man who was convicted of tazing a police officer in the neck and dragging him into a crowd to be beaten and possibly shot with his own firearm on Jan 6. On Trump's behalf.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded it kind of looks like he's dancing. dabbing if you will. what kind of nazi forms a heart on his chest before the sig heil? that's absurd. i have no love for any police officer on Jan. 6

[goaded]

He didn't "form a heart on his chest", he slapped his chest. All the Nazi enthusiasts in the US and around the world recognised it for what it was, and so do you.

And "i have no love for any police officer on Jan. 6" is proof of that. You don't have to love anyone to expect people who viciously assault someone doing their to have to pay.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded if you really thought he was a nazi you'd know that he employs a wide ethnic workforce including jews which negates your original thought

[goaded]

There were Jews and black men in Hitler's armies. Until recently he hadn't made his feelings particularly public.

You're claiming a right wing leader performing a Nazi salute in front of a crowd that loved it is totally innocent, which we both know is bullshit.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded let's say i see your point. your view. do you really think that america is a nazi hotbed? i don't. we don't believe in purity. we believe in honesty, fairness, justice for all. when you take that away, that's when we get angry. and it doesn't matter what race you are if you are an angry American

[goaded]

Really? You believe "in purity. we believe in honesty, fairness, justice for all"?

Purity? That's Nazi shit, for a start.

Honesty? You're lying about what everybody saw with their own eyes.

Fairness and justice? Trump's people are rounding up US citizens without a warrant right now.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded purity in the sense of goodness of heart. not a dishonest one

honesty. is not judgmental. you see one thing and wrap your world around it. i do get that you grew up believing this is the only way, but it's not. we don't have to fight each other. i think that's a learned experience at 3 or 4 years old.

fairness. depending on your situation, i don't know if you'll ever understand the concepts.

[goaded]

How fair is it to police officers to see the people who attacked and beat them let off because it was on Trump's behalf?

Honesty is about telling the truth, not lying by saying an obvious Nazi salute was "shut up and let me talk i'm not finished", when anyone who watched the video can see and hear exactly how it happened. Damn right we have to fight liars and Nazis, we know what happens when they're allowed to run riot.

Purity, real purity, doesn't mean hate and oppression of people you don't like.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded at what point does a protest turn into a riot? when an agitator instigates it. it's been proven that it was done by the biden administration.

honesty? you want it? i am anti-jew. that's not against the law. that doesn't mean we can't find common ground. but i've never met a jew that will give up his ground for peace.

purity? let those black jews into your "country".

[goaded]

Nothing but lies.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded good retort councilor

[goaded]

You know what's most disgusting about neo Nazis like you? It's that you can't claim ignorance, you know exactly what sort of thing the ideas you're pushing lead to.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded oh please. i would never shave my head. = D

[OddBeMe]

@goaded he's got issues with jews that were working through. But I doubt he's a "nazi". Still...

[Sevenpointfive]

my genocide is greater than your genocide @goaded my people weren't even killed by nazis. they were just white people

[OddBeMe]

I'd love to see your DNA report and laugh as you read horrifically 4% black or jew.

[Sevenpointfive]

if that is what you want then pay me $50. buy me a plane ticket and i'll need an airbnb for two days. are you going to show me around? i will have expenses.

me? get a dna report? are you halloweening me? that's scary! should we do the psa over the system? 'don't do dna reports'

[Juxtapose]

Yeah that's not a proper sig heil but nice try with your propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Biden pardoned Anthony Fauci this morning. Does that not scare you more than some symbolic bullshit?

[OddBeMe]

Not really. Because the actual convict is in the wh

[Opinion Owner]

I didn’t know Elon Musk was a convict.

[OddBeMe]

No just the guy you voted for

[Opinion Owner]

I thought this question was about Elon Musk and his Hitler salute.

[OddBeMe]

Sure and you made it about fauci

[Opinion Owner]

You live in fear, so I shouldn't have piled on with another criminal.

[OddBeMe]

What was fauci's crime?

[Opinion Owner]

Do you know what a pardon is for?

[OddBeMe]

Its bad optics for biden. But fauci, the jan 6 committee and other anti teumpites received a pardon "pre-emptively" as none of them have committed a crime. Thus it's protection from political harrassment

[Anonymous]

LOL.. Are you having a bad day?

[OddBeMe]

I generally dislike right wing populism but sure feel free to gloat. You earned it

[Opinion Owner]

Ok then.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The propaganda is so fun to watch from you.

[Dongie]

"They're fucking idiots?" Huh, look in the mirror.

[OddBeMe]

You are quick the quips