Would Trump have talked that way to Putin?

[OddBeMe]

That tells us something. "Why do you have hatred of Putin?" I don't know, because he's genociding Ukrainians, chode.

Yes

No

[goaded]

Oh, hell no.

Putin's caused the deaths of tens of thousands of Ukrainians, including in horrific war crimes, and stolen thousands of their children.

Trump thinks that's all forgivable, for the right price.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Birds of a feather...

[dustybiker2]

@goaded
I don't even think it's that. Guessing here, obviously.. Putin has something over trump and I believe it's very much one-sided. Zero gain for Trump. Trump fears that man.

[dustybiker2]

Will be interesting to see how the internal American Military feel about trump supporting Putin so openly. They are going to be trumps downfall. He has insulted them so much and now this.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@dustybiker2 Trump is a coward like most bullies.

[dustybiker2]

@beefcakebradybatson 100%

[Pet68]

@beefcakebradybatson Like ALL bullies.

[dustybiker2]

@Pet68 Yes. Not even putin does his own strategic kills. He just orders them.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Pet68 Agreed.

[AyChingao]

HAHAHA... Putin told him to talk to Zelenskyy like that. But if he did we might find out what Vladdy Daddy's got on him

[AyChingao]

PS at that time it would behoove him to keep his distance from high windows... maybe eyeball those chopper blades when boarding marine one

[OddBeMe]

Nazis had a system called "playing to Hitler". Where they would commit acts that would get them hitlers attention. Like murdering millions.

[AyChingao]

interesting tidbit... ass kissers

[OddBeMe]

Yeah the dictator playbook is well polished.

[AyChingao]

among other things

[Jey__]

It was completely disgraceful to treat a foreign leader like that. Abominable. I'm outside the states, but from what I've heard about DOGE and Musk and all the cuts, Americans are gonna suffer more than anyone. I'd say whatever Americans have to do to bring down this criminal administration would be not only moral, but necessary.

[purplepoppy]

If I invite someone into my home, no matter how low they are, I treat them with more respect than that.

Yesterday I saw an article in the daily mail about an American fast food chain hoping to open in the UK. The vast number of reader comments were calling for a boycott. That's the effect Trump is having on US business interests abroad.

[Ladsin2]

Really? I think I'd do the opposite. If someone of import showed up at my door and I had to host them I'd give them a lot more leeway than I would some pauper coming to me begging for money and security. In the first scenario I'd be somewhat gracious because I have to be. In the latter I'd be pissed if the guy wasn't happy with the billions of dollars I'd already given him.

[goaded]

@Ladsin2 Would you pretend you'd actually given him twice what you really had? Would you tell him he started the invasion of his country?

[Ladsin2]

@goaded No, but if I did he should come to me in private to discuss that. Not in public to try and shame me while he's begging for my help.

[goaded]

@Ladsin2 Would you pretend you'd actually given him twice what you really had in private?

[goaded]

Not that it was you that gave it.

[Ladsin2]

@goaded Already said no. You should read the responses given. Will help with the flow of any conversation.

[goaded]

@Ladsin2 Your response wasn't particularly clear, I read it as you wouldn't tell the lie in public, which is why I asked about in private.

Trump already called Zelensky a dictator in public and claimed against all reason that Ukraine started the invasion, also in public. He's repeatedly lied about how much the US has given Ukraine and what strings were attached to European funds. In public.

Trump is shaming himself and his country by behaving this way.

What did Zelensky say in public that deserved the treatment he got?

[molonski2]

I think the worst part of that was just shouting over the top , this is not dealmaking or debate , its just bullieboy stuff , reality TV , these are International relations.

[OddBeMe]

It was quite a feat for zelenskyy as a politician to stay calm and talk logically to Russian stooges. Then to politely thank them on social media after. That's executive thinking

[molonski2]

Yes , he performed with dignity , and with his country in mind.

[OddBeMe]

He is trying to sell victory for Ukraine. Not a hard sell. But I don't know what trump is after.

Putin points?

[molonski2]

I don't know , I honestly just don't get this one.

[dustybiker2]

He would have stained his pants at the thought.

[dustybiker2]

"Why aren't you wearing a suit?" *frantic rubbing*
Stage set from there.

[DryGermanGuy]

I couldn't believe my ears when Vance started whining about Zelensky's attire.

[dustybiker2]

@DryGermanGuy Jaw dropped here.

[DryGermanGuy]

Brian Tyler Cohen is as usual on point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C91sYB3NfiA

[dustybiker2]

@DryGermanGuy Oh i just found him. He is good. I managed to stay out of politics for a few years, lovely breather, and now feel the need to catch up. Trump is doing too much damage not to follow.

[dustybiker2]

And yes. On point.

[goaded]

@DryGermanGuy Oh, yeah, the "Russia, Russia, Russia...", I wonder if Zelenskey recorded the conversation that led to Trump's first impeachment. I guess not, because that really would have made a difference to the election. I wonder if the people in the impeachment trial asked if it existed.

[dustybiker2]

Zelenskyy's expressions are what to watch in that clip. You can mute trumps plastic points.

[OddBeMe]

Watching trump on mute is very interesting. Lots in his tone. (Sniff) like desperation

[dustybiker2]

The performance was dramatic.

[lightbulb27]

no he recognizes people with power and those that don't. But, he has pushed back during press conferences with UK and other leaders. Again, he is fine talking to them telling them things... as they lack power.

[OddBeMe]

Zelenskyy lacks power... yet he's swooned over by all of Europe?
https://youtu.be/WC2TtNVS_l4?si=mzLRXvKQvtmxoURI

[Shiprex]

Donny would be put on the naughty chair if he spoke like that in front of Uncle P. Then he'd be taken to the back room where the real "discipline" would be meted out.

[OneViewpoint]

Nah, tRump wouldn't talk that way to Putin. It's hard to talk when you're on your knees with your mouth full or bent over a couch in the Oval Office with a big smile on your face.

[Ladsin2]

No, because he has to make a deal with Russia. He doesn't have to make a deal with Ukraine. It's like if you ask a colleague to your house, or one of your kid's friends. Do you treat them the same? Clearly not.

[Pet68]

Why wouldn't you treat them in the same manner? They're both guests, aren't they? Trump and Vance's behaviour was disgraceful, immature and just plain disgusting.

[Ladsin2]

@Pet68 No. Because children aren't adults. Because you're hosting someone who's of the same standing as you are as opposed to someone begging you for money. You treat both parties well, but they aren't the same.

I find the opposite. I find that Zelensky's behavior was terrible. Trump was docile and calm for ~45 minutes of the meeting as the disrespect continued to escalate. Eventually they had enough. I had enough. If I were in Trump's shoes I would stop all aid going to Ukraine forthwith. Let them go to the Europeans for help. I'm done.

[Pet68]

So children aren't adults. So what? Why should that matter?
As for Zelenskyy, how was his behaviour "terrible"? I didn't see that. He was remarkably calm in the face of the buffoonery displaced by Trump and Vance.

[OddBeMe]

Yes, let's allow Europe to rearm massively. Someone hasn't read up on the world wars.

[Pet68]

Don't Trump's supporters want Europe to shoulder much more of the defence burden so that the USA doesn't have to?

[OddBeMe]

@Pet68 yes that's the point. Either we do it or Europe re-arms itself.

[Pet68]

Okay. And? Isn't that what we've been told Europe should do, in the face of "Putin's aggression"?

[OddBeMe]

@Pet68 no that's what trump tells his cult. Smart people know the more nations arm themselves the more likely wars are.

Jesus. Gotta spell it out in crayon for you trumpers

[Pet68]

You think I'm a "Trumper". That's hilarious. I'm not even a Yank, and if you'd noticed any of my other posts on this site, you'd know that I can't stand the orange clown.

[Ladsin2]

Because there are no wars now?

[OddBeMe]

In Europe? What do you think?

Every war torn country "re-armed" first. Jesus gotta spell it out in crayon

[Ladsin2]

Ukraine re-armed and then got invaded? Interesting thought process. I thought re-armament was in response to a growing threat, but what do I know.

[exitseven]

Yes, if Putin had come to the White House and started making demands he absolutely would have called him out on it.

[OddBeMe]

What demands did zelensky make? Wasn't he about to sign over 500b of minerals for really nothing? Trump forgot about that contract to sign. Blithering idiot

[exitseven]

He wanted guarantees that we would support his war forever. It was obvious he was not serious about this. I think he still thought he was doing business with somebody that was on his payroll. I bet he hasn't been sleeping too good.

[OddBeMe]

you're so engrossed in maga logic has left you. Z was literally there to sign away 500b for nothing except a promise. Before he was ambushed.

[exitseven]

He misunderstood his role in this. /he was not the one in charge, Trump was right in telling him he was not holding any of the cards. Zalensky went to Europe to speak to the British PM and other leaders. They showed him a lot of moral support but basically said he would have to make some kind of deal with the United States.

[DrPepper12]

Exit, he just stated FACTS about previous ceasefire and our 1994 commitments. Facts are kryptonite to Trump. He gets pissy n then the tantrum.

[OddBeMe]

No they him Russia's frozen billions. Which is funny as shit.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

if Putin came to our office like an arrogant child demanding support to fight his own little war that he knows he can't fight on his own then you bet your ass Trump would of put him in his place

[Anonymous]

i am a supporter of president trump but even I admit that the way this went down was disgraceful

[OddBeMe]

I can at least appreciate those who criticize their dear leader. Its surprising how many trumpers can't do it. Lol

[loveslongnails]

Trump to Putin would have been: "Yes, Master, whatever you say, Master, may JD and I go down on you, Master."

[Dargil]

Would Putin have talked that way to Trump?

Answer, no. Zelenskyy is a moron. Dug his own grave yesterday.

[DrPepper12]

Krasnov wouldn't talk to his boss that way...

[Pet68]

That's what everyone should call him; Krasnov. That's who he is. That's what he is.

[seeyounexttuesday]

You guys are so mad your little puppet got bitch smacked by the president and kicked out of the White House.

[OddBeMe]

Yes it would be like fdr kicking churchill outta the wh after asking him to give Hitler whatever he wanted.

You people are cultists

[seeyounexttuesday]

No it wouldn’t God you’re an idiot.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Very presidential. Very much in our interests to not support Ukraine. Trump is always right. 🙄🤡

[seeyounexttuesday]

@DrPepper12 Trump clearly states he wants the killing to end and America’s financial drain. THAT is in our interest. There was a time when the left didn’t want war either, but now you cockgobble the military industrial complex

[OddBeMe]

[DrPepper12]

Some conflicts require it. This is a fight worth having.

[OddBeMe]

@DrPepper12 Russia either returns Ukrainian land slithers back under its rock. Or Poland will be next

[DrPepper12]

Yup!!

[seeyounexttuesday]

@DrPepper12 Lol and if Russia says 'no'? Then what? US support is gone.

[OddBeMe]

According to trump? He's already sucking putin cock

[seeyounexttuesday]

When is your flight to Ukraine?

[OddBeMe]

Why do i have to fly to Ukraine? Im cool with tax dollars fighting dictators. That's what defense spending is for genius.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Becasue put your ass on the line since you believe in the cause.

[OddBeMe]

Then go fight for russia. Or go down south and stand a post at the wall dipshit

[FunkyMonkee]

Probably, if Putin talked that way to Trump but, I think Putin is a LOT smarter than Z.

[OddBeMe]

Not sure. They're both smarter than trump.

[FunkyMonkee]

I wouldn't count on that.

[OddBeMe]

you're seriously not suggesting trump is a smart guy?

[FunkyMonkee]

Absolutely!!

[OddBeMe]

[FunkyMonkee]

You should see a Dr. about that. While you're at it, have them check out what's going on inside, too, if ANYTHING'S going on.

[Anonymous]

Not unless the US had given Putin hundreds of billions of dollars and Putin had never shown any gratitude for it, and instead was condescending and disrespectful toward the US.

[Anonymous]

No, he respect those who are higher up the power chart like China and Russia (only two who can compete with the good ole US of A)

[OddBeMe]

How is russia "high up"? Its economy is smaller than Canada's.

[Opinion Owner]

Enough nukes to core out the planet

[OddBeMe]

Not a great metric, but then so does pakistan

[Opinion Owner]

Exactly and they just sit off side and don't get involved in squabbles

[Agape93]

Nope. He can't talk while blowing him

[SmokinAces2000]

No trump would have offered to get putins seat and let him call all the shots

[DrPepper12]

If Vance hadn't already fucked the couch seat... and called the "shots"...

[Anonymous]

No. It clearly would not be in the best interest of the USA. The "plan" should be to make Putin feel GOOD, and to prioritize becoming the best of allies with Russia.

[Pohjolan]

Alas Budanov doesn't have access to the Epstein tapes or whatever dirt Putler has on Trump.

[Anonymous]

Trump motherfucker would try to kiss Putin's ass.

[MisterWack]

No because he has yet to do so.

[Pet68]

Speak that way to his boss? Of course not.

[Anonymous]

Putin was terrified of Joe biden. 🤣🤣

[OddBeMe]

Well he talked his bots to support bidens rival

[Opinion Owner]

Why did speaker pelosi impeach biden?

[OddBeMe]

She didn't

[beefcakebradybatson]

Slaves NEVER sass their Massa !!!

[GAGsucksballs89170]

Trump, is putin's, BITCH

[standardguy]

Of course not. Putin is an intelligent guy.