Why will Trumps insecurity and immaturity lead to WW3 ?

[Vegasrunner]

[lightbulb27]

The change if having Europe take more control and responsibility could lead to that. They are onboard w that isea of eu control.


The problem is they really do need usa to temper them and its not what he is going to do.


Its not all trump but ge lead the ahoft in dynamic.

[Syntosi]

Well, it certainly looks like Europe is going to have to have a war with Russia thanks to Trump. This could have easily been resolved with a small transfer of old equipment and diplomatic sanctions but if Trump does not want to play ball then the world is gonna have to resolve this in the good ol fashioned way, from the barrel of a gun.

[Ariesman81]

They could just stop fighting. You know... like we're choosing to do. The EU and Ukraine continuing this battle is just going to weaken the entire area. And the results will be the same.

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 Nope, they can't. It would be suicidal to do so.

[Ariesman81]

Ukraine is getting sacrificed one way or another

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 Perhaps in one way but its in Europes best interest to maintain the status quo and give back Ukraine the land that Russia has occupied. This is important enough that if its not done though diplomatic means and Ukraine can't do it by themselves then there is a very good argument for European nations themselves to step in and do it for them.

[Ariesman81]

They can have at it. Trump's plan for negotiation was the most logical. The big dog is gonna get the bone. If the EU wants to weaken itself even further, they sure can.

[exitseven]

Zelensky could have signed a cease fire, instead he wanted to dictate to President Trump what his terms would be, What did this little shit think would happen? Now he is going to European leaders to see how many billions of dollars they will give him. I wonder how that will all work out?

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 No, Trumps negotiation was retarded and would never have worked even if it was accepted which it would never have been. Its a complete non-starter which when you are trying to negotiate means you failed badly.

If Trump was a good negotiator then he would have successfully made a deal. He did in fact not do this which was entirely predictable since Trump has always sucked at negotiations historically.

And lets be very clear here. This is a huge loss for America. Putting aside the ABJECT HUMILIATION of having that pathetic shouting match recorded and streamed to the rest of the world, Russia is trying to grab power by invading Ukraine and that power is directly taken from USA. Furthermore, Europe is now looking for their own solutions which excludes USA which further means that USA is losing power and influence. This is how super powers falls. The big dog gets the bone and USA is looking less and less like the big dog.

[Syntosi]

@exitseven That is laughable. No. Zelensky could not have signed a ceasefire. First of all, USA is not the invader, Russia is. Any negotiation that does not involve both Ukraine and Russia can't result in a ceasefire. Also, Trump very EXPLICITLY excluded a security guarantee from his deal which means USA would not even have enforced a ceasefire even if it was established.

Trumps deal was fucking pathetic.

And yes, Zelensky will now go to Europe because they at least know how this game is played and yes he will get billions upon billions upon billions of dollars for it because that is in the personal interest of European countries. A great deal is being written as we speak and America is not part of it. History is being written and America is not part of it. This is a VERY bad sign for American supremacy.

[exitseven]

Trump is trying to recoup some of the billions we have spent there and at the same time stop the killing.
The european countries were sympathetic and offered some token amount of aid but the British PM said he would help with a peace deal and then bring it to the United States. That does not sound very promising to me.

[Syntosi]

@exitseven The great and brilliant negotiator completely and abjectly failed to recoup and of the billions that were spent and also made sure that USA would not gain any benefits of the billions that was spent at the end of this war. Congratulations, you get nothing.

[Ariesman81]

It's called a stop loss.

[Syntosi]

@Ariesman81 If he just stopped giving any and said nothing then USA could still profit from what they had already given. Trump did.. whatever the hell that was and now USA instead of gaining a valuable ally and priority access to things like rare earth minerals and such, Trump gained America another enemy. Congratulations, you played yourself.

[Vegasrunner]

@Ariesman81 That's a wild statrment.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi If Zelensky had signed America would have been a presence in Ukraine and Russia would have to back off. Thr US would get oil and minerals and Ukraine would get protection. It would have been a win win. Now nobody gets anything. I guess the thing that is important thst Trump does not gt the win. I hope Zelensky can speak Russian.

[Syntosi]

@exitseven That is just wishful thinking. Nothing in the deal gave a security guarantee.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi In life there are no guarantees.

[Syntosi]

@exitseven No guarantees = No deal

It is very simple. Russias entire invasion is based on not having security guarantees, Ukraine is not going to make the same deal twice especially since this deal Trump is proposing is objectively worse than the previous deal they had with USA where they promised to defend Ukraine in return for Ukraine handing over their nukes.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi It's simple. America does not need Ukraine. For the money we are paying to save their bacon we could have given 3 million dollars to every person in Greenland and get the minerals there and also a strategic location to build a military base,

[Syntosi]

@exitseven A human does not need any technology. We can live in caves and hunt for food just to die at the tender age of 30 but that is not how we want to live now is it? USA needs Ukraine if it was to continue being the worlds super power. You know, in case I need to re-emphasize the word "World" in that title anymore than I already am.

The more countries like Afghanistan and Ukraine that you people claim "America does not need" the smaller the American sphere of influence becomes and the weaker the nation ends up.

[Anonymous]

Trump only person on the planet who can stop WW3.
Get your head out of your ass and stop watching CNN.


Zelenskyy is a moronic a-hole who was a wimp ass piece of corruptive shit until USA gave him weapons and fear to the Russians so he thinks he is a celebrity now.

[SmokinAces2000]

Were you saying all this before or after Trump started praising Putin and blaming Zelenskyy

[Syntosi]

Ukraine stopped Russias invasion before USA managed to give them weapons. Just saying.

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous A Better argument would be he could stop it if he starts it. Cheetoe is no more than your standard school yard bully who will eventually be stood up to. Unfortunately depending on who that person is will be the issue.

[Miristheiss]

It won't.

What are you babbling about?

We are closer to pulling military support to Ukraine than ww3.

[Vegasrunner]

@Miristheiss Interesting, I can't think of a situation where insecurity or immature benifits anyone can you?

[Joshydavid25]

No, in his last term he was the one of the only presidents not to have a single. war happen under his administration.. So not at all..

[Vegasrunner]

@Joshydavid25 So you're saying Obam left him w/ a peaceful country?

[Joshydavid25]

Nah, Obama was bombing places left and right..

[Vegasrunner]

@Joshydavid25 Gotcha so you're saying a president shouldn't fight for American interest?

[Joshydavid25]

Not at all, it's why I appreciate Trump and especially what he is doing with Ukraine.. It's all about American interest..

[Vegasrunner]

@Joshydavid25 Supporting Russia is in America's best interest, how?

[Joshydavid25]

Trump doesn't support Russia.. LOL.. Never has never will.. He even said in his meet up with Zelenskyy that he's not taking sides, but just trying to broker the peace deal.

[Vegasrunner]

@Joshydavid25 Bullying Ukraine into a one sided deal absolutely supports Rissia, ill grant you Cheetoe may not be smart enough to understand this, but yes he's being used by the Russians to do their work. This is what happens when you have an incompetent person making deals though.

[Joshydavid25]

The minerals deal would've benefitted both Ukraine and America.. It was a way to do better business with Ukraine, and the indirectly provide security from Russia because they don't want smoke with the U. S so they won't attack. It was also a way for Ukraine to pay the America back for all the billions..

[Joshydavid25]

To indirectly..**..

[Vegasrunner]

@Joshydavid25 Huh, perhaps you are not familiar with this deal. How would the proposed deal benifit Ukraine?

[Joshydavid25]

If American companies were planted in Ukraine, Russia would be hesitant to attack, because they wouldn't want smoke with America if they attacked them in Ukraine.. Plus it would bring American business to Ukrainez which would have both economically..

[DryGermanGuy]

There is no World War 3 coming - not over Ukraine or for any other reason. That's just whiny Trump's doublespeak.

[exitseven]

President Trump is the least insecure person around. Having a strong America will prevent WW3

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven That's a crazy statement. There's a realistic chance that his name goes down in history as synonyms for insecurity.

[exitseven]

If he was insecure he never would have run for another term. It had to have a lot of belief in himself to think he could actually pull it off

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven His insecurities are literally what led him to run.

[exitseven]

@Vegasrunner. Yes, keep telling yourself that while Trumo keeps on winning.

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven I have no doubt that Cheetoe will continue to win, the issue is that the American people will continue to lose.

[exitseven]

@Vegasrunner What American people? the ones not paying taxes on social security or tips? the ones paying 2 bucks a gallon for gas? The ones that are able to afford to buy their first house?
American voted for the candidate that proposed solutions to their problems. Democrats just wanted to cause more problems. They had no solutions.

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven The ones living in the real world, the one where none of what you said is remotely true.

[exitseven]

It was true during Trumps last term. He is implanting many of the same policies that were successful and is doing more to help Americans.

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven American paid axes on both tips and SS during his last term. So what is the true part?

[exitseven]

The truth part is that it is a policy that trump will implement in the new tax ill going through congress now.

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven At times it's funny to think that you actually put statements like this in writing. You do relalize you are validating my statement. You're making a claim of something that hasn't happened by pretending that it has.

[exitseven]

No but I expect that it will. Tr=ump has been off to a great start so far and is just getting started. He is turning this country away from poverty and crime and towards the successful policies of his last term.

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven Do you any evidence to reflect this "great start" or is this another feeling?

[exitseven]

The southern border is showing record low numbers of illegal crossings. The price of oil is 68 dollars a barrel, ICE is deporting illegal aliens by the thousands, Trump's tax bill has just cleared the House the goal is to pass it before Memorial Day, He has gotten American prisoners released and has made it illegal for men to compete in women's sports. He has uncovered billions of dollars of waste and corruption and has identified thousands of government employees who can be terminated. He assembled a great collection of cabinet members and high level managers. No president has ever accomplished so much is the first 30 days.

[Vegasrunner]

@exitseven Lol, I think I see your confusion. Most of what you have listed is subjected intangible wishes, few if any which actually benifit the American people. How would limiting trans athletes access to sports or weaponizing government agency benifit the American people?

[IamRight]

Because leftists put insecure and immature words in his mouth and blame him.

Or he won’t be the cause of WW3.

[Vegasrunner]

@IamRight The people that didn't vote for him are the issue?

[IamRight]

Yes.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

it won't, he's trying his hard to stop it but unfortunately whiny bitch Zelenskyy doesn't want to accept the peace option being offered to him

[Vegasrunner]

@filthy_immigrant What is he being asked to give up in this peace offering?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Trump's peace plan prioritizes stability: Ukraine stays neutral (no NATO), some territorial concessions reflect reality, and economic ties with the U. S. strengthen their future. Zelenskyy refuses because he prioritizes endless war over his own people. Why reject peace if it prevents more destruction?

[Vegasrunner]

@filthy_immigrant It's the cost of peace he rejects. How would being removed from NATO benifit Ukraine?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Who gives a fuck about nato, they snd Zelenskyy clearly want to resume the war while they continue to milk our economy

[Vegasrunner]

@filthy_immigrant Hm, obviously ever, including Cheetoe seeing how he has it as a contingency to a deal.

[FunkyMonkee]

Because CNN says so and you KNOW what a bastion of truth and knowledge CNN is!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

I sincerely hope not, but if so, you Trump voters will have the blood of MILLIONS on your hands.

[masterSir]

no. not even close. biden brought us closer than trump ever did.

[Vegasrunner]

@mastersir Why do you feel that?

[masterSir]

Under Trumps first term, we ended and didn't start any wars or conflicts. Bidden came into office and crap kicks off all over the place, including Russia invaded Ukraine. And for the last 3 years Putin has threatened nukes If "______" happens. its the reason the rest of Europe is arming themselves.

[Vegasrunner]

@mastersir TY fir sharing this as it highlights how the media can control lower intelligence people into believing what they want to believe. There's a ton of falsehoods in your statement, not to mention the ambiguity of your Biden one. I hope you get the help you need.

[masterSir]

like what?

[Vegasrunner]

@mastersir I'm not sure what would help you. You would probably have to start with being honest with yourself.

[masterSir]

Aah yes. attack me as an individual and not the argument. good liberal sheeple.

[Vegasrunner]

@mastersir It's unfortunate you feel attacked perhaps you suffer from the same insecurities as cheetoe?

[SmokinAces2000]

It’s been building up so I can’t put all the blame on to Trump but he’s been adding fuel to the fire and is now getting America heavily involved.

[DrPepper12]

It's not looking good...

[Anonymous]

No zelensky is on his own.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Are you retarded?

[IamRight]

If he wasn’t he wouldn’t need to preemptively blame WW3 on Trump