—let’s not jump the gun. There’s no hard data yet tying the rollback of DEI programs to an economic crash. Depressions don’t just pop off because some diversity offices got axed; they’re brewed from bigger pots—trade wars, market bubbles, policy misfires. Trump’s tariffs, announced April 2, 2025, are already spooking markets—stocks slid into correction territory by mid-March, per NBC News, and consumer confidence tanked 10.5% this month, says the University of Michigan. That’s the kind of stuff that could snowball, not DEI cuts.
Irony? Maybe if you squint—right-wingers cheered slashing “woke” spending, and now X posts (like @frogs4girls) are half-joking about a “Great DEIpression.” But correlation isn’t causation. The right’s focus on DEI as a boogeyman might’ve distracted from real economic moves—like those tariffs—though plenty of them love that too. Caring about “important stuff”? They’d argue they are; just depends on what you call important. Me, I’d say watch the data, not the culture war noise—recessions don’t care about your politics.
I dont relate them, some people see we cannot continue the debt inflation path, consumer and globalization usa weakens. Changing direction is very difficult. We may have big dip… he wants rstes to cone down to finance the debt. Its a tough balance act. Frankly noone else would attempt it, thats why trump is right. Problem is once lowr him, there is noone else that can replace w his ability to do the hard things vs what is easy.
i remember as a child seeing this word noone. i didn't know what to do with it? i couldn't understand how to pronounce it any differently than noon without an -e.
Why tf not reduce wastage on tax avoidance, make the rich who already have more than they need pay up, ffs if a worker pays 30% on their labour why tf can't a fucking billionaire or trader or corporation do the same?
@Shiprex am fine taxing them and if trump did an asset tax, I'd laugh or cheer. problem is it won't cover much anything as is. People argued taxes for decades and nothing happens to cover the deficit. I've not looked at the math for it in long time. The other issue is... whom is going to go building these manufacturing bases, installing the robotics and such that is required to make us competitive? it ain't the middle class. that is the problem which is the wealth is in the hands of a few and how to manage that after we've outsource so many jobs... turning us into a service economy that effectively doesn't work financially without the printing press. Sadly at the policy maker level... where really is the conversation about this and whom are the best minds? Were fed crap in the media and we all argue rather than find solutions. For most part, the real issues were ignored in prior debates... because it's nearly impossible to deal with probably.
It seems to be a fabricated wealth redistribution that has been going on since the 80s at least. The whole lie about trickle down economics without any kind of societal goal (Norway are kind of part way with their sovereign wealth fund) of reducing the need to work for people instead, break the family unit into two working adults and get them employed in the commercial market so the rich and powerful can redistribute even more upward motion of wealth.
In the past few decades, conservative idiots in america have always been eager to write checks made to cash with the amount left blank for anyone who will give them the impression that they are "better" than liberals.
They couldn't care less about what that person does, as long as it doesn't affect them directly.
How fucking sad and pathetic is one's life when the ultimate goal is to feel that you're better than others and, even worse, when you rely on someone else to provide that feeling for you.
Funny thing is that in 2020 tRump said the stock market would crash if Biden won the election. Fox and the right wing media all bought into this lie but they all turned out to be wrong. So who is the one over dramatizing?
@Sachem: Bad strawman. That was campaign rhetoric, but we did experience the highest inflation in four decades under Dementia Joe, which means that administration's policies were indeed awful, which Trump was really saying (not that anyone has any idea who was actually in charge during that administration- it certainly wasn't the dementia patient, though).
Also had nasty Nancy not gone over to Wuhan in November of 2019 and arranged for a little pandemic in order to orchestrate the " greatest voter fraud in American history" look at the first term ol' Trump would have pulled.
@Sachem the stock market did crash. It tanked in 2021and 2022 and recovered just before his term ended. The problem with that was that if somebody started with a million dollars in 2020 it was only worth $800,000 if that because of Bidenflation.
@Sachem Yes, the problem is that 80% of them were jobs in the government. Over a million jobsin the government were created in 4 years. Why do you think that Elon Musk can swing a dead cat in any direction and find waste and abuse?
@Sachem: There’s plenty of waste there too, no doubt about it, including all those DEI programs leftists forced on the military and defense contractors.
Leftists think government jobs are the best since it allows them to target the private sector and their political opponents and help them move closer to a command economy.
“Hard-working civil servants”’? Hahaha, if that isn’t leftist propaganda, I don’t know what is.
You can quibble with the $150 billion figure, but the completely unsupported 10k is a pathetic piece of propaganda as well. It’s obvious to everyone that in a huge organization like federal government where there isn’t oversight and it’s largely operated as a slush fund for leftist causes and to promote leftist policy agendas as well as hiring lots of leftist ideologies, that there will be a huge amount of fraud, waste and abuse.
But it’s touching how a Marxist like you is loyal to his fellow Marxists. It makes me wonder if you aren’t yourself benefiting financially from it.
@Sachem I think he started with USAID because it was really low hanging fruit and nobody would really miss it. Cutting the defense budget will really make the piggies squeal so Elon wanted to make sure his process was solid.
@exitseven: The CCP censors don’t allow Odd to access unapproved information (not that he’d be curious enough to look). They’re merely protecting him and other Marxists from “misinformation” and “wrong thinking”.
First off we are not in a depression. Second the economy has nothing to do with DEI… actually now that I think about it maybe it does. The Biden admin was filled with DEI hires and it was the worst inflation in over 40 years. It’s totally stupid hiring people or advancing people based on skin color. It’s got to be merit based otherwise you are not getting the best of the best you are just getting the most diverse.
tRump hires only "the best". But so many of his white hirings have turned out to be incompetent and they have left office.
Notice how many plane/helicopter crashes we have had lately. No doubt that tRump's hiring of incompetent white leadership in the Federal agencies and deregulation have had much to do with those tragedies.
@Sachem Biden made a DEI hire to run the FAA in Feb 2023. The shortage of Air Traffic Controllers was known at the time and one of the things that was supposed to be addressed. For some reason it never got done. Maybe Mayor Pete was on maternity leave. There is a class action suit by 3000 white males who have all the qualifications to be an Air Traffic Controller yet they were never hired. Maybe the democrat DEI policies had something to do with this. There were plenty of minor accidents and close calls while Biden was president. The problem was inherited by President Trump and Sean Duffy and they will fix it.
@Sachem excessive regulations drive up costs and reduces efficiency Trump hires according to merit. . He finds the best person for the job and does not care about race. Biden assembled the most incompetent and unqualified group of affirmative action rejects to serve on his cabinet. His Supreme Court pick was hired because she was a black woman. In confirmation hearings Sen John Kennedy questioned her at length. He determined that the questions he aske her could have been answered by any first year law student. His whole cabinet was hired to checkboxes. He had black, Hispanic, Gay, Native American and transexual people. Their incompetence was stunning. Ironically, former Boston mayor Marty Walsh was hired to represent the mentally challenged community and it turned out he was the smartest of the bunch. He deserted the sinking ship and took a job with the NHL.
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DEI is a root cause of what is wrong with America. It needs to be addressed or we will not have a country in a few years. All the panic about the stock market is actually pretty funny because most ot them do not have two dimes to rub together.
Have you been watching all of these video clips about people like Obama, pelosi and Bernie Sanders talking about how America will be destroyed if we don't impose tariffs on other countries?
Not to mention, have you seen all the countries that are completely dropping their tariffs against America? Wow, maybe someday Chevrolet can sell cars in Europe.
Sigh. It's not the idea of tariffs, they're a useful negotiating tool when targetted and used rationally. It's also not unreasonable to respond to tariffs that actually exist or are threatened.
That's not what Trump's doing. He's plucking numbers out of the air and didn't even anticipate the entirely predictable sock market crash (which is going to make rich people even richer).
Don't you think the global situation might have been a bit different thirty years ago, which is where Fox "News" had to go back to in order to find Pelosi seemingly contradicting herself?
Here's a question for you and your brother "goaded". Which would you prefer? Now, think this through, as if you were President Harris.
1. Reciprocal tariffs and identical import regulations on every product with every trading partner. 1. Zero tariffs and zero import regulations on every product with every trading partner. 3. The status quo as it was on January 19.
@pacificopete Are you stupid? You implied you can't buy a chevvy in Europe, I give you a link to where you can buy them. The US 25% tariff on imported trucks has been in place since 1963 - search for The Chicken Tax. Since the video of Pelosi in 1996, China has joined the WTO, eliminated many barriers to trade and had reduced its tariffs to around 3%. Trump just put a blanket tariff ten times as high on them.
@pacificopete Unlike you, I admit when I was mistaken. Your turn.
Can Chevrolet sell cars in Europe? Has the US had a 25% tariff on small trucks from abroad since 1963? Is the difference between 2.5% and 10% as big as the difference between 10% and 40%? Does a discrepancy in tariffs for one particular product justify imposing a higer tariff on absolutely everything?
@pacificopete I told you about the truck tariff already, the Chicken Tax, remember?
I gave you a link to an EU site where they sell Chevrolet cars, so obviously.
Almost as obviously as you avoided answering:
Can Chevrolet sell cars in Europe? Has the US had a 25% tariff on small trucks from abroad since 1963? Is the difference between 2.5% and 10% as big as the difference between 10% and 40%? Does a discrepancy in tariffs for one particular product justify imposing a higer tariff on absolutely everything?
@pacificopete I don't use Google, and it's a direct link to a German car sales site. Selling Chevrolet cars. In Europe. Which leads me to ask you again:
Can Chevrolet sell cars in Europe? Has the US had a 25% tariff on small trucks from abroad since 1963? Is the difference between 2.5% and 10% as big as the difference between 10% and 40%? Does a discrepancy in tariffs for one particular product justify imposing a higer tariff on absolutely everything?
@pacificopete yeah. he doesn't understand. but on other ukranian news. zelensky has just bought 51% of a platinum mine! go look that up. zelensky has our depression money
Trump's imposing ridiculous tariffs and telling you it's just a reaction to something that doesn't exist. There aren't many "American" cars over here because they're horribly inefficient and far too big. There are millions of American cars, though, all the Opels and Vauxhalls, for example, it's just they're made here.
@goaded bring me in then lol. American cars suck because of their engineers. they've been losing mostly for 45 years. maybe 40? i honestly don't know how car dealerships survive here if they are American! but ford did offer a discount to employee status so that's something. but i looked. i don't see any changes lol
It will all work out. Germans will be building cars in America and everything will work out. Why all the fuss about tariffs? If Biden did this you would be on your knees praising him.
@goaded i don't know how much you've travelled but i tend to see only european cars in Europe and even in a lot of non-european countries. a fleet of mercedez benz would cost a fortune here, but elsewhere it's a ride in a cab
@Sevenpointfive I've visited six continents, is that enough? My point is that General Motors owned those two brands, although you wouldn't think of them as American cars.
And, frankly, there's probably nearly as many East Asian cars, like Toyota, Hyundai, etc.
@Sevenpointfive Hey, they could have required workers be paid a percentage of the median wage of their country, or something similar, but the corporations wouldn't want that. That would have needed unions.
@pacificopete The Ontario PM said that he will drop all tariffs if Trump does the same. Vietnam and Cambodia want to do the same thing, Japan has called president Trump and wants to talk. Next week others countries will follow.
Funny how in the old days it used to be "affirmative action" which right wingers hated until it was discovered that it was white women (mostly middle class and up) who were the primary beneficiaries of AA.
yes. a certain group of people that we call ally are behind all of these programs to hurt the white man and eradicate him. i told this to a white gay man. and he was foaming at the mouth when he said but he hates gays! i said no he doesn't. when has he ever said that? i'm pretty sure he thought i was a racist but that's not really the term i'd use.
@goaded ys, that is the only reason that the Ford F-150 is the best selling truck on the planet. Otherwise everyone would be driving some cheap foreign made truck.
No he won't. Lets not forget that we have been correct so far and you have been tragically wrong. Why should we stay here and pretend that the person who has been wrong all along will someone magically be correct in the future?
Trump is a failure. Always has been. Always will be. However, Trump never really suffer personally, its the people he associates with who always takes the fall. Guess what? This time it is USA that takes the fall for Trumps failure. How fun.
I dont know. Feels like every prediction I have made of Trumps presidency has pretty much been spot on, if not too charitable and underestimating his incompetence in leadership. In fact, it is looking like I am going to prosper a few million if the economy continues to collapse.
@Avicenna from their own stupid policies? No. And you’re getting closer to “Marxism”…still not quite there.
Marx is a philosopher, who claimed more centralized govt control of the economy would be better than capitalism. He’s half right. As the EU’s democratic socialism is the most successful.
The US’s “capitalist socialism” of giving private industry total control doesn’t work.
They knew this was going to happen and were willing to take the risk. The younger ones in particular are saying "fuck your 401k I want my country back." They grew up in crash after crash so if this one harms the fuckers who were responsible for all of it, then so be it.
Because stocks are irrelevant to those who can barely afford groceries.
DEI is only another term for Affirmative Action. It has been conclusively proven that 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐥𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐛𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐀𝐟𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐀𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧. If anything it has led to further discrimination against minorities. When this is pointed out, right wingers clam up and stop complaining.
@Sachem Not this time around. Blacks have been specifically recruited no matter their qualifications and the damage these ill prepared unskilled people caused was devastating to people around them and the company. Big companies can absorb such port decisions, small cannot. Some times the decisions threaten the life of the corporation such as Target, Budweiser with the brand Bud Light, and even Disney now as there was a hostile takeover attempt last year. These 3 were decisions made by white women but I have seen just as bad with black people and as well as white women. Climbing the corporate mountain produces the best, dropping one on top peak is the worst.
Then they start hiring in other black people. Making crap decisions and f’ing things up badly. Companies are fed up with it and the pressure the government gave and now the government doesn’t give them money to push it. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear. That is what they are attempting to do. Its not my fault daddy abandoned them.
@Sachem kinda how affirmative action works. It is backwards racism like Tenet. Got another way of leveling the playing field of 400 years of slavery and jim crow?
@OddBeMe But it was upper class white women who were the main beneficiaries of affirmative action just like DEI. Notice how none of its critics here dare to address that matter,
... that may well be true. The one thing that is 100% certain is that those violent, anti-USA terrorists were all 𝐖𝐇𝐈𝐓𝐄 Republicans. Just imagine what the right wing news media would be saying had they been black or Latino. They should be deported for their treason.
It is all they have. They don't believe in anything, they hate the country and they just want to see it burn. You just gotta love Democrats. They're just so nice.
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