That's it. That's the question?

[DrPepper12]

PROOF: noun

1. evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

Synonyms:

[WindAtMyBack]

You actually need proof that the government is extremely wasteful? You want proof that it would be extremely easy to find?

You obviously have no idea at all about how the government operates. But I won't bother trying to prove it because whatever I say you'll simply deny it. You are completely out of touch with the reality of government.

I am not even talking about whether a program should or shouldn't exist. I'm talking about waste in everything they do. It's everywhere you look.

This is why we need business people doing it. Because you can't get by with so much waste in most private sector businesses.

[DrPepper12]

The question is about DOGE!! Not govt itself. Yeah, Coolidge the biz man did a BANG UP JOB. Fools.

[WindAtMyBack]

The question was whether DOGE found anything. If you aren't talking about the government what are you talking about? Perhaps you want to know if DOGE found your shoestrings?

[SofaKingsMart]

@WindAtMyBack
“You actually need proof that the government is extremely wasteful?” Absolutely nothing was said to indicate that that is what the poster thinks.
The question you seem to want to avoid is, what evidence have they provided to back up the claims of fraud that say they are finding.
That’s the question.
What evidence have you seen, besides the words they use to say the found waste?
Not “we found $8 billion. I mean $8 million. Opps…. it was $8 dollars.” (Clearly sarcasm, I know they claimed it was more than $8.)

[WindAtMyBack]

@SofaKingsMart

I think I got it exactly right. The question is about DOGE, not fraud.

Dr Pepper said it's not about the government itself. Huh? That's what the G in DOGE is. How is it NOT about government? It's not about fraud either. The E in DOGE is efficiency, not fraud.

This is exactly why I asked how anyone could possibly need proof that the government is wasteful. Then I asked if he needed proof that it would be easy to find. You'd have to be totally ignorant about the government and be totally blind to need proof of either of those.

Avoid the question? I suppose I did. If someone asks for proof that water is wet, I'd probably answer in the same way - how could anyone need proof that water is wet?

[BadApple69]

Can you prove you exist? Maybe we are only a dream of the Gods.


Now for your silly question. They listed a lot of items that they found and with the left and the media trying to shut them down I would thing that if they listed “fake” items it would be screamed from the roof tops at MSNBC, NYT, CNN and it would have been called out as being fake in Congress every time it was brought up by the right. Since no one on the left has called it out as fake then I would assume it’s real.

[msmissydc]

Even if it were true, THEY still can't answer this question. I think THEY are allergic to facts.

[DrPepper12]

Fact check: 💯

[katiesmuff]

You really don't think that the MAGA cult would be able to answer this do you!

[BadApple69]

Without knowing you I can say without a doubt that there are millions of MAGA people a lot smarter than yourself. Please don’t be insulting and ignorant.. it’s not a good look.

[katiesmuff]

@BadApple69 You mean all trailer trash toothless hillbillies is the other word for maga!

[jshm2]

Proving never was the point. It was all a confidence trick.

Like walking a mile in your shoes. Their whole point was to steal your shoes, and you were stupid enough to let them walk a mile in them, before realising they were actually stealing them under a different guise.

These are all conmen who have made billions by being conmen. Americans are slowly waking up to that.

[NathanDavis]

okay, I have a serious question here...

and I am not taking any political side here, I don't lean to any

but... has anybody looked at Special Districts and their 100 billion dollars per year budget? and this is a video from a decade ago... lmao

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3saU5racsGE

[MisterWack]

The question I have with this is, what do you mean by ‘found anything’?

DOGE is meant for Government efficiency, that is the point of it. So what exactly is ‘not being found’ from your perspective?

Note: I am not saying whether DOGE hasn’t or has achieved its goals or is not as efficient as people claim it is, I’m just curious what your meaning is on ‘finding something’ since it seems vague and purposeless (no offense).

[exitseven]

DOGE has found over 150 billion dollars of waste c and fraud. The proof is listening to Democrat politicians losing their golden goose and all the whiny ex employees who lost their cushy,, do nothing, work from home jobs

[DrPepper12]

Yawn. Not proof.

[pacificopete]

I agree with the sign that guy has. Nobody is going to change his mind. The border was secure throughout Joe biden's presidency, and the well documented videos of the caravans were just cheap fakes. Deporting illegal immigrants is bad unless you are Obama. Tariffs are bad unless you are Obama.

[goaded]

Who has ever put tariffs on whole countries? Who has ever deported people from the US without due process?

[pacificopete]

Who got deported without due process?

[blackeagle007]

Look at elons pic. He looks like a total goofball. The only reason why those women give him like 5 kids is because of his $. Otherwise no normal woman would want his scuzzy ass

[Likes2drive]

I think they have found a lot of wasteful spending but some of the programs are needed and not everything they found needs to be discontinued just more efficiently run like corporations try to do

[Syntosi]

Trying to run the government like as if it was a corporation is a terribly stupid idea.

[Friendlybro79]

@Likes2drive You think? How about what you know they've found? I can't figure it out and corporations run efficiently by firing as many people as they can, leaving two and three jobs to be taken on by one person, pay them less, give them less benefits, make their lives no better, live week to week, and barely surviving, so their shareholders and executives can live in mansions.

[DrPepper12]

@Syntosi correct 💯

[DrPepper12]

@Friendlybro79 accurate

[AviatorTom]

I can't change your mind. You will believe what you want to believe. Only you can change your mind, and that's unlikely, even when evidence and witnesses are shown you.

[goaded]

Why don't you try?

[AviatorTom]

@goaded @goaded There's no reason to try to do something that I know will fail. I have better things to do.

[Snakeyes7]

We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a wars what mean fuck all to us when we should be using that money to pay down that debt. There's your proof.

[Dargil]

The entire news cycle from when President Trump unleashed DOGE. But nothing else.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Ah yes. The infamous US federal government.

The least corrupt, most reliable, most responsible, most transparent entity in all of human history.

[Anonymous]

proof is in the Democrats acting like buffoons as if they all have something to hide

[Anonymous]

That not all who wonder or wander are lost.

[Anonymous]

You can't prove you're intelligent!

[Dongie]

Prove they didn't.

[pacificopete]

Next you're going to tell us that for decades we've known that Disney characters and dead people have been boating.

😂😂

[pacificopete]

Voting!

[DrPepper12]

DOGE makes claims & I HAFTA provide proof?

[Dongie]

Trump & Musk are saving billions for you and me, and I HAFTA prove it?

[goaded]

No, they do.

[pacificopete]

@gouda

Says who?

[goaded]

@pacificopete You're saying they can fire tens of thousands of people without showing any savings or improvements?

[pacificopete]

Do you mean they have to prove it to Germans?

[goaded]

@pacificopete You're saying they can fire tens of thousands of people without showing any savings or improvements? To anyone?

[pacificopete]

Did the left prove that Biden was fit for office?

[Dongie]

😅 They are working on gathering evidence I'd imagine. Doing so amongst all the zombie miscreants of the DNC and activist judges. They, like everyone else, do so at the pace normal for a human being. Not at the snap of your or anyone else's fingers. I'm sure you can understand this.

How do you think they came up with whom to fire and which positions were either wasteful or fraudulent?

[goaded]

Simple. They fired everybody without employment protection, which included anyone who'd been promoted for excellence in the preceding months.

What could possibly go wrong with firing the best people?

[pacificopete]

Prove they were the best.

[goaded]

@pacificopete They got promoted.

[pacificopete]

And the leader of the free world has severe dementia. You're going to have to try harder than that.

[Dongie]

Getting promoted within a well organized money laundering/embezzlement enterprise means they were best at doing bad.

[Dongie]

Tell us why the best had no protection?

[goaded]

OMG, they'd recently been promoted for doing a good job and were on probabation, which allowed them to be fired. It's not difficult to understand.

files.mastodon.online/.../f69ed492ab9b658c.jpeg

[pacificopete]

People on probation can be fired at will.

[Dongie]

If you have a complaint, take it to the proper authorities. I'm sure they'll make time for such a conscientious, and we'll mannered statesman such as yourself.

I myself don't care about those crooked buerocratic scumbags. Without knowing, I know that the majority of them are with the DNC, and it's how they got the job. The corrupt web spreads wide and far. It's taken decades for the democrats to fasion such a well organized money tree. If they had only Bern honest and put that dedication to proper use. I remember hearing how social security was going to run out at such and such date not unlike the climate change racquet in the early 90s. That's over 30 years.

[goaded]

@pacificopete You're actually right, and proving my point. Nothing to do with competence, everything to do with idiocy.

@Don

[goaded]

@dongie "Without knowing" sums you up.

[Dongie]

As though you would give a damn if it became known that every one of them voted for Trump, virtue signaler.

[pacificopete]

Or everything that has to do with the fake news you watch. How is these firings effected you?