Guys, do you feel more positive about American women since they helped elect Trump?

[Anonymous]

Society in general and women in particular have for the most part not given a flying fuck about the rights and welfare of men and boys in general for at least the last decade. Like most men, that has made me very cynical about women. While men, and especially young men, played a big hand in Trump's victory last year, far more women than expected also crossed the aisle and voted for Trump. That has given me a somewhat more positive image of women than before. Have you noticed a positive shift in your attitudes toward women as well?

[ProbablyClueless]

That's interesting, I didn't ever make that mental connection until you pointed it out. I've definitely had a more positive impression of American women in the last few years.

Watching women respond (and then other women punish those women for responding) to the trans stuff was really eye opening. I think that was the first time I realize that a whole lot of women put up with a truly impressive amount of bullshit in the name of trying to get along with everyone. And I didn't realize how much of that bullshit comes from other women.

I think that's what a lot of women want, at the end of the day. They kind of just want to be these sweet, caring people that hold the tribe together and everyone feels included and accepted and loved and supported. Things just went a little too far for their comfort and safety

[exitseven]

Yes, when you look at the female Trump supporters as compared to liberals there is no comparison.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[Anonymous]

Gender relations have been pretty bad in recent years. I doubt it has anything to do with Trump but I do feel like things are getting a little better. Hopefully that trend will continue.

[pacificopete]

Did they vote for Trump or did they vote against Kamala?

[Asker]

that's a good question. Either way, they voted for a better world for both sexes and not just for women.

[pacificopete]

Good

[Dargil]

I feel more positive toward those who did help president trump. But most educated women are infected with liberalism and they probably cannot be rehabilitated.

[DrPepper12]

Educated being the key word.

[Dargil]

@DrPepper12 I think infected is the keyword. They have a mental illness. it is incurable There is no possibility of rehabilitation. They will die alone clutching their rabbit vibrator's.

[DrPepper12]

Yes any woman who votes for Trump is like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders. Cognitive dissonance is thriving in MAGA land

[Asker]

Nah, they're just smart and honest enough to know what's best for America and the world.

Harris is a complete idiot, and only another idiot would vote for her. She was a disaster as VP. Imagine her as POTUS. Disaster is too mild a word.

[SmokinAces2000]

What rights and welfare of men and boys have women not cared about?

[Asker]

Some examples of many are men's reproductive rights, paternity fraud, and the poor job our gynocentric public school system has been doing meeting the needs of boys.

[SmokinAces2000]

1. What reproductive rights should men have in your eyes
2. Paternity fraud is not a widespread problem and I’ve seen women shame other women for lying to men
3. Claiming that the school system is gynocentric is just a ridiculous claim

[Asker]

1. Men have no rights in reproduction. Women can decide they don't want to be a parent and walk away by having an abortion, which is legal in most states and perfectly acceptable in the eyes of most Americans. Men have no such legal choice. They are legally forced to be a father and pay child support at a minimum, and men who walk away from that are breaking the law and referred to as deadbeats. Men don't even have the legal right to know they have fathered a child.

2. Paternity fraud is more common than most people think, and it's perfectly legal in most states. One study found using DNA testing that between 10% and 19% of mothers had misidentified the biological father. I don't believe it's that high, probably more like 5%. The point is it's not an important issue to women and society because the victims are men, not women. If it were women being defrauded, society would have begun taking it very seriously a long time ago

3. It surprises me that you as a man would not know the public schools in the US are gynocentric and not serving boys well. It makes me wonder if you are one of the females with blue GAG accounts. Over the last few decades schools have changed a lot. They have been tailored to the needs of girls at the expense of the needs of boys. This is common knowledge to anyone raising boys, or anyone who cares about them. But again, it's not taken seriously because it's boys, not girls, who are being harmed. We already know what happens when girls are disadvantaged and discriminated against. Society makes it a priority and spends $ billions to address it. Not so for boys or men.

www.edweek.org/.../for-too-many-boys-school-isnt-working-solutions-are-in-reach

www.andrewyang.com/.../the-data-are-clear-the-boys-are-not-all-right

[SmokinAces2000]

1. I keep hearing that argument and it’s contradictory. If you’re against abortion then why would you support a man abandoning his child because the woman actually kept the kid?

2. You said it yourself that only 5 percent of women commit paternity fraud so it’s clearly not a widespread issue like I said. I’m not sure what you expect people to do about that.

3. I was still in school just a few years ago so I can definitely say that this claim is false.

[Asker]

1. Where did I say I'm against women having the right to an abortion. I'm 100% pro choice, but for BOTH women and men So you think it's not an issue that men don't have the right to know they have a child? You're clearly a woman.

2) So you have no issue with the fact that 1 in 20 fathers are unknowingly raising another man's child because the mother lied to them? Yeah, you're clearly a woman.

3) Being ignorant about an issue doesn't mean you shouldn't care about it. You're definitely a woman.

You, as a woman, are proof there is still a lot of room for improvement with respect to the subject of my question.

[SmokinAces2000]

I’m a woman because I don’t subscribe to the idea that men are victims? You’re in your 30s talking about how men should be able to abandon their kids because women have control over their bodies, you want women to be in an outrage over something that doesn’t happen that often, and you believe that schools across the country cater to girls. You’ve been grasping at straws this entire time.

[Asker]

Nah, you're a woman because if you were a man you would care about these issues men face and understand their significance.

It's never been about women's bodies. It's about their lives. 95% of abortions are done for reasons like the mother not wanting a child to get in the way of career or education, not being financially stable, not being in a solid relationship with the other parent, or simply not wanting to become a parent. All the same reasons a man might not want to be a father. Only 5% are about the mother's body or health, which coincidentally is the same percentage of fathers who are victims of paternity fraud. Are you arguing it's not a significant percentage for men but is for women?

Yeah, you're clearly not a man.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, been thinking the same thing.