Why do modern women and society at large forget the importance of men today?

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Here’s an excerpt from an article addressing The main stream milquetoast reasons why women aren’t having babies anymore in South Korea. (About 80% of countries globally are having a birth rate crisis/below replacement levels):

“The mother’s frustration was not lost on her children. That doesn’t mean men had it easy, either. Many families lost their fathers in war or suffered financial ruin during the financial crisis. This cast a shadow over the prospect of starting a family and raising children.”

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I doubt we are forgetting men just because we choose not to marry or carry children. What gets me is those men who claim that they alone built society and that everything women have come from men. That's just some straight up incel talk there.

Men have their place as do women. We work together equally doing our part. That doesn't mean we owe our bodies to improve declining birth rates. We still have autonomy to our own bodies in that way.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

I agree in the concept of inalienable rights, you should have the right to choose, of course. But without a religious underpinning to morality it boils down to survival of the fittest, might makes right.

Men are the enforcement arm of laws, anyways the culture that reproduces itself at a replacement or above level will have the future. Today it’s just a Kahn of a different kind, people are being conned into hating their own cultures and their men and thinking children aren’t worth bringing into the world, it’s too hard. It cost too much money. The irony is family businesses need children to pass it on. We’re all going to end up working for Walmart until our family lineage, dies out and only the Elon Musk’s and Trump’s Putins Bidens Communist part dictators and other billionaires will run and recreate the world in their imagez

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Generally, it's the poorer population that has more children than the educated, upper middle class. Chalk it up to poor education and a lack of things to do that they can afford.

If anything, we are going to breed dumber and dumber individuals who rely on government handouts more often than not or those who turn to a life of crime.

Now Elon is the exception because he and Nick Cannon breed like crazy.

Having a child IS hard and expensive. I have two of my own, so I speak from experience. This is why the more educated you are, the less likely you are to want to bring children into this world. They are more focused on careers and getting stable in this current economy before they ever decide to settle down.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Touché, however, the billionaires are introducing eugenics on a pharmacological level, a policy tier, and a propaganda tier.

They are playing God with genetics with our minds with our bodies with our cultures and with our families. I see their points. However, it boils down to the night makes right in their social darwinist-elitist philosophical framework.

The irony is, you have to have faith to make this world in life worth living and living in. The elite have faith in themselves. They literally want to be like God, they want to be immortalized. Even the universe will end and so will they someday. Their philosophy os as empty as their hearts, the same nihilistic hopeless philosophy they or their predecessors shoved down the common folk’s throats.

[bddddd]

Yes. To all of this.

[MzAsh]

Modern women didn’t forget the importance of men. They just realized that struggling alone often feels easier than struggling next to someone who’s adding dead weight. If men want to be seen as important, it’s on them to be important, not just exist and expect a gold star.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Women just have to look good and not have a high body count and in their early 20s a 5+ can get a billionaire to marry them. They are respected by everyone just for being pretty and young. This is not true for men and you know that as well as I do.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

I came back with injuries from war and I still lost my kids and Family Court to a judge my lawyer said “respects and appreciates the military” he proceeded to ask me how big I was compared to her, and if I was over her as she was trying to alienate me from my kids. Damn, sewerside was looking like a pretty sweet deal for awhile

[MongozDish]

Probably because they've become too comfortable and start ignoring the source of their comfort. The cost of comfort is often a lack of awareness.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

The Western Fall
Chapter 1 “The cost of comfort.”
Poetry

[SmokinAces2000]

What makes you personally important to a woman.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Quite a bit, but an important follow up or two part question should be:
“What makes you important bringing kids into this world, raising, providing, and training them?”
A decent business with potential to grow. But grow for what and for whom now?

My kids are entering their teen years and soon to be. But they were lost in family court many moons ago. For who and what do I have this all for now?