Growing disdain for American women in the west?

[cth2188]

Just an observation noticing a growing trend of rage bait content on YouTube by men who are saying they're going their own way... they haven't left yet - haven't utilized these passports. Still are fixated on the women they don't want ( Modern women )

I left the dating market intentionally in 2012 because I saw the downhill of dating only to resurface to red pill content online.

Am I done with the west and dating - yes, but do you think this rhetoric will lead to dangerous circumstances?

[MzAsh]

It’s wild how many men claim to be “done with modern women” yet can’t seem to stop talking about them. If you’ve opted out, why are you still hovering?

This obsession with critiquing Western women has less to do with actual women and more to do with men feeling displaced by a world that won’t center them by default.

Passport bros, red pillers, MGTOW… it’s all just different branding for the same wound which men who can’t handle women having options.

[cth2188]

If men think I'm gonna center them they're highly mistaken. I'm not this weak fuck, but I think a lot of men are weak who tear down on women. These men are setting themselves up either to get harmed by women if this escalates or self inflicted by being so toxic they will die alone ( Either way not good )... I see no hope for men in the west.. I'm open to men overseas now.

[Ariesman81]

@cth2188

Then you're seeing our side of things... good job.

[cth2188]

Yep I've been pepping why I opted out all together when I did because this won't end well

[cth2188]

@Ariesman81

[Ariesman81]

@cth2188

Pepping?

[cth2188]

Peeping *@Ariesman81

[cth2188]

I agree 💯

[Kelley1]

Smart men are aware that the laws and family court are extremely biased in favor of women. That doesn't mean they shouldn't marry, only that they should be more careful.

[cth2188]

Marriage benefits them it's women who are stuck with the unemotional unpaid slave work and labor for a cheap 💍

[cth2188]

What men want are slaves not wives

[Kelley1]

@cth2188 Both men and women want slaves. Wives want husbands who will slave at work and give them the money. Husbands want sex slaves; that is, wives who will hop into bed whenever the men are horny. Women have it best since that is far easier than working all day.

[cth2188]

I'm not interested in a slave or ownership maybe you do , but not me.. I love my freedom and independence

[cth2188]

Women who sit at home want that - women like me work for myself. Speak for yourself

[cth2188]

Please don't speak for women like myself

[Kelley1]

@cth2188 You have the right to remain single, to not have children, and to grow old and die alone.

[cth2188]

I don't know anything about dying alone we all die alone
.. I don't know any human who came here with someone at birth

[cth2188]

I'll be surrounded by my friends and family

[cth2188]

I have children and pets

[Cuminginside]

I'm sure she will

[Shiprex]

Unlikely, there's no shortage of things men can pursue that are fulfilling that don't involve women. Sports, travel hobbies and self are undee rated things that can provide calm and peace to their lives.

Given men tend to value work and prosperity, it's therefore in their best interests to use that earning potential to climb social ladders that have escalatirs and elevators for women if they want to start families.

[cth2188]

I think American men need therapy not wives especially with this toxicity they are spreading - no woman wants to hear or deal with that ( MISOGNOR, SEXISM, etc)

[blackeagle007]

Women need therapy as well

[cth2188]

Yeah to heal with the toxicity patriarchal system ofc @Shiprex

[cth2188]

@blackeagle007

[blackeagle007]

No they need behavior therapy. Having unrealistic expectations. Game playing. The need to stop filming us if we approach you. How would you feel if you filmed me, then I film you and put it on YouTube?

[cth2188]

I don't know who's filming who - women are done with men largely left leaning or FEMINIST... You men have your conservative women. Enjoy. @blackeagle007 focus on what makes you happy

[cth2188]

I straight up and tell men I'll never sleep or date you

[cth2188]

I'm past these heteronormative traditional roles and expectations that you men are stuck in

[Shiprex]

That patriarchy that provides your power, water, food, internet, or another one that doesn't expend men's lives at 20 times the rate of women to sustain everyone's lifestyles?

[cth2188]

God does that @Shiprex

[cth2188]

God provides for me

[cth2188]

I take care of me as well mentally, emotionally, financially, physically, and spiritually no man has completed that task fully

[Shiprex]

God is an imaginary being made up BY MEN to control people.
Real men are the ones providing power, water, food and all the essential services AND DYING to do this for everyone

[cth2188]

Real men are doing nothing but making women's lives a living hell

[cth2188]

Women are taking care of themselves these days

[cth2188]

You men are maintaining infrastructures that's about it - doing all that doesn't warrant you access to women

[Shiprex]

No real men are invisible to you all or blamed for all of society's problems YET suffer more from society more than any of you on the pedestals of "patriarchy"

[cth2188]

Until I find a man who can meet my needs I'm good solo

[cth2188]

I hire you to cut my yard or do maintenance doesn't mean I have to sleep or date you

[cth2188]

If you're attractive I may fuck you

[Shiprex]

No men are demanding access to women. IN fact perhaps men would be happier if most of you went away and set up your own society so they didn't have to be subject to the whinging and abuse they endure for you. You can all do all the things men can apparently just slower and with more of you doing it yet you don't. Why not?

[cth2188]

If a woman didn't birth you men you wouldn't be here

[cth2188]

Hey bud I live off the grid solar panel set up

[cth2188]

Water system and have a few garden plots

[Shiprex]

You get internet? Electrical grid was put up by? Maintained by? How about water? Sewage? Sanitation? FOOD?

[cth2188]

I don't bother men, nor harass them, or inflict female violence against men... it's you men bothered by women you can't have access too

[cth2188]

I grow my own food and I'm a herbalist- into canning and gardening

[cth2188]

I run my home on some panels and yes I have a sewage set up

[cth2188]

On solar panels

[cth2188]

These threats don't work with women like me.. women aren't obligated to deal with men.. you want traditional relationships find traditional women

[cth2188]

I don't follow heteronormative relationships or support the patriarchal system

[cth2188]

Do I want relationships with men? No I love my freedom, peace, and happiness

[Shiprex]

Men are leaving you all alone now but you still rely on roads, broadband and police, military, firefighters and coastguard to save and protect you while soldiers keep the really bad guys away

[cth2188]

Ok you men can't live with me... I'm not giving up my bed or house

[cth2188]

We see each other every now and then then you gotta go home lol

[cth2188]

I don't deal with drama chaos or toxicity

[cth2188]

I travel and I'm never home to have a husband plus I run my practice 40 hours a week

[cth2188]

I'm used to being single and love quiet time

[cth2188]

You are terrified @Shiprex why

[cth2188]

Or threatened rather why...

[blackeagle007]

You’re probably very ugly and fat

[cth2188]

Actually I'm not @blackeagle007 I'm very in shape and beautiful

[cth2188]

The mere fact you even think that is disrespectful

[cth2188]

and sexist... See how you men make women not want to deal with you... your perspective and attitude about women who want to deal with you men like that?

[cth2188]

I actually avoid men because the majority of what comes out your mouths are unintelligent and immature - constant tearing down of women

[cth2188]

So when men are complaining about being lonely you men actually deserve it

[cth2188]

I'm a size 14 jeans and 44DDD bust @blackeagle007

[cth2188]

I don't deal with disrespectful men @blackeagle007 so don't message me again on here

[Shiprex]

What makes you think I'm terrified? @cth2188

[cth2188]

Or threatened rather @Shiprex women don't have to get married or have children to accommodate traditional society standards... I love children , but can't have anymore and I've walked down the aisle in a wedding gown. Was loyal and faithful even married as a virgin , but that wasn't good enough for my husband. Even after the divorce I remain single and CELIBATE 10 years haven't been with another man since my ex husband. Will I marry and have more children now ( my children are teens ) I love my home in peace. My ex husband remarried which further proves you men can't be alone after grief , divorce, death, illness whether it's you or your wife. The way how most of you men are towards women no thanks...

[cth2188]

I actually wore my grandma's wedding gown that she married as a virgin in her 20s

[cth2188]

All the women who marry in my family marry one time and if they divorce or become a widow we don't remarry again.. I have 3 sisters who are currently married. I will not remarry again in this lifetime under this climate.

[Shiprex]

It's not threatening in the slightest. I am very content as things are. No way would I be afraid to be alone or with someone who brought peace and improved life.
I don't paint women as a homogeneous group. Most are sound

[cth2188]

Yeah I'm kinda past the sexism and MISGONY largely from American men

[cth2188]

I wish you men the best - women aren't signing up for what our grandma's and great grandma's went through.. my mother was also a virgin when she married. I made the vow to remain celibate after my divorce and children.

[Shiprex]

Odd to hear as it's largely women's voices complaining they're not getting the desired responses or respect the feel entitled to as men aren't interested in the promiscuity and low quality of modern women.

[cth2188]

I'm not expecting anything from you men other than you go away because you're not changing , growing, or evolving to meet the demands and standards of women. I rather most of you toxic men go away since you don't want to heal , treat women like human beings, and take accountability. My journey will be with Jesus until he returns as a bridegroom.

[cth2188]

You men can also pursue traditional women overseas or find women of your liking - yet you're complaining about the women you don't want. I'm 36 and quote on quote has hit the wall according to American men standards. There's nothing I can do for you men as a mother and previously married. My service is over and I will raise my children with my ex husband until they're grown out my nest.

[cth2188]

I can easily pass for 28 despite I'm 36. I have peace in my home and travel for business related with my business I own. I'm not giving up that space again.

[cth2188]

I left you men behind a decade ago and now I think American women are done ✅

[blackeagle007]

Anyone can we whatever on the net. But yet you come on here and say hateful things on guys. You really have nothing better to do. Size 14 is fat

[cth2188]

I wish you men would go away - you don't like women and a lot of women are starting to not like men. I find many of you repulsive towards me. Get your passports and go away ( I would rather you ruin women overseas or take your hate elsewhere).

[Cuminginside]

Damn who r aped you? What was the last time you have some d ick?

[cth2188]

Noone raped I find most of you men repulsive as an asexual woman - I can see through you eerie -weird men.. shiprex was projecting and now your deflecting.

[cth2188]

Here we go back to sex with you men 💀🤐🫥 I could never

[cth2188]

Centuries of you men's horrible behavior has led women here turned off

[Shiprex]

If men went away the whole society would collapse then you'd have nothing to keep you fed, watered or powered.

[cth2188]

Society will not collapse because a small percent of women are opting out of dealing with men

[cth2188]

You men should go away Shiprex a large percentage of women are done with you men - I'm finding women don't like you men. I just love my peace without another human taking up my space This is my selfish era - be in peace , travel, and thrive. I'm sure women who want marriage and children are out there, but women are leaving these outdated systems.

[cth2188]

I told you I'm self sufficient and can function as I do gardening and canning.. I even sew - my off grid home is equipped by solar panels

[BonzoInBitburg]

After my divorce the first 2 Western women I went on a date with admitted they were married. Around the same time a had a couple women complain about me holding the door open for them saying they could do it themselves. Not saying every Western woman is like that but that was the reason I started dating other cultures and I had better luck.

[cth2188]

I don't deal with American men

[cth2188]

Too much misgony and sexism for me

[BonzoInBitburg]

The world's a big place with lots of people. No need to limit yourself to one culture

[cth2188]

I don't limit myself and this post isn't about that by the way.. it's about the growing sexism and misogyny as a result of harmful rhetoric

[cth2188]

This kind of rhetoric will put many in harm or danger especially online

[BonzoInBitburg]

I don't see any evidence of a growing movement. You might see more of it in your YouTube feed because you're clicking in it but in reality, more men are leaving dating and ignoring women altogether. A couple loud voices on the fringe do not represent the average man.

[cth2188]

I'm a YouTube content creator whose been online 10 years - om familiar with PP Bros, red pill, MGTOW, SYSBM... I gave up on American men a decade ago. I wish you American men the best , but next mate would be overseas ( Currently talking to a German man )

[cth2188]

I wish you average men the best and I'm not an average woman not as a business owner of a holistic business or self-employed. The current man I'm talking too is self-employed and is an engineer contracted in the states

[cth2188]

I've heard enough with you men in the states and with the last election

[cth2188]

I'm very familiar - women like me of a certain class have to be with certain men... I find men overseas are more masculine appearing to deal with women like me

[cth2188]

American men can as they choose last election proved something else.. if men are going their own way they would get off about modern women

[BonzoInBitburg]

I'm not American but one of my businesses is there there. I'm very aware of what's going on there.

YouTube content creators are not in a class I want to date in. I only dated in the class with no social media.

[cth2188]

I'm a content creator for women and thats not my employees a licensed wellness/ health coach and I own a holistic business

[cth2188]

I don't know what you're talking about a class I want to date in

[cth2188]

Lol... who cares what you want if that's not your preference

[cth2188]

Employment*

[blackeagle007]

I like your idea

[cth2188]

Have men opened the door for me and I thanked them yes - 😊 paid for groceries yes

[cth2188]

That was 10 years ago... I don't expect much anymore...

[cth2188]

When men stop being chivalrous I stop expecting it - I focus on myself and reciprocate who pours into me

[IHaveRespawned]

Western women mostly suck. Many are militantly leftist, sluts, and willing to throw men under the bus. In addition, they come with a lot of baggage. They set unrealistic expectations and rather be lesbians than be with an average man. They only want their top 20% of guys.

Fortunately for me, I was able to navigate through the swamp of rejection and loneliness until I found the woman perfect for me. A little late at ages 27/30, but better late than never I guess.

[cth2188]

Stop generalizing number 1 and number 2 you don't thinken are whores too sleeping around while married because that was my experience.. everyone is toxic nowadays men and women.. I refuse to settle why I got out of the dating market when I did because I got tired of wading through the swamps to find a guy who wasn't full of MISGONY, sexism, and toxicity. I'm glad I did and chose to remain single/CELIBATE seeing what I see and know.. I have to keep my standards high because most men aren't offering anything, but stress , toxicity and disappointments from past relationships with women. Will I ever date under this climate? No, most likely no and I've accepted it as dating is becoming daheoeus.

[cth2188]

*Men are whores too since I've been single I had more married men approach me than single men... These men and families and wives, but had no problem cheating

[cth2188]

Dangerous * No I will not date again and most likely will stay single. I haven't been with anyone since my ex and that was 15 years... I'm not missing anything out here.

[IHaveRespawned]

I am sure there are a lot of awful men too. I am faithful to my fiance.

[IHaveRespawned]

Keep in mind. I ONLY wanted a woman that didn't have a romantic past before me. It was a long wait to find her, but well worth it.

[cth2188]

I saw you quickly switch gears when I held men to same standards like you held women... I can say you American men are trash , but I know men who aren't like the men I see online. For my own peace of mind and sanity I don't date ( Am I punishing men?) No, I'm realizing that there is no benefit in dating in America with how toxic dating is. I don't entertain you men anymore, I travel , work, and make money through my business. When I want to go out I go out with my GFS or solo... I've been doing this for a decade and some years. I left the dating market at 28 years old never to return.

[cth2188]

I don't want men ran through if I were dating and most men aren't celiabte, virgins, or monogamous

[IHaveRespawned]

Whatever. You do you. I am gladly taken by a woman who never had a boyfriend before me. I am her first kiss and everything, and I had to wait in emotional distress, loneliness and doubt until I found her.

[cth2188]

I'll probably stay single and celibate as I have been for a number of factors especially with this current administration and women's rights. I wish you American men the best - I'm turned off to dating and marriage with the gender war stuff.

[cth2188]

I'm not asking to date you - I am telling you men I'm done with y'all - I'm glad I went this route.

[IHaveRespawned]

Lol... go ahead and have your feminist meltdown rage. I am just glad I am engaged to be married. Go ahead and stew in your hatred. Stay miserable. That's your problem.

[cth2188]

Hopefully American men get their passports or travel more to find what they're after they want marriage and stuff.

[cth2188]

Dude you sound bitter I'm just saying - I'm pretty content over here. Just because I'm not interested in dating doesn't mean I'm a feminist or hate men either. I travel , I make money, I have my home, and I have peace away from the crazy and toxic dating market. I'm not losing anything - I have my friends and it seems like I'm happy.

[IHaveRespawned]

And I already kicked a men-hating tenant out to the curb. She co-rented downstairs with this other nasty woman. She may have been exposed to domestic violence, but it was no excuse to take her anger out on me for being present at my own home. If she hadn't have left, I would have killed her.

[cth2188]

To say you're partnered doesn't seem like you're happy and just settled out of desperation and loneliness ( You just admitted it)

[cth2188]

You're full of anger and bitterness towards women like a lot of you men I come across.. my peace won't be disturbed.

[IHaveRespawned]

Not true at all. She is amazing and the love of my life. We fit together perfectly. I honestly thought I would never find a woman like her.

I just hope other men out there can navigate through the swamp of damaged women until they find their true loves.

[cth2188]

The misgony I'm talking about

[cth2188]

You're mansplaining to me about other women when you are supposed to be partnered, but ok

[IHaveRespawned]

I think I have anger left over with all the bullshit I had to go through. I graduated high school never even kissed a girl. I went through most of my 20s never having a real girlfriend either. In fact, I now have a criminal record for just being persistent. It fucked my career up and I am still dealing with the collateral damages.

[cth2188]

Yeah my guy please get therapy 👒🙄🚩 geez

[IHaveRespawned]

When a guy has a stalking conviction on his record just for pursuing a romantic interest 10 years ago, yeah, I have every reason to be pissed. Women these days will cry foul if you even look at them the wrong way. I am angry because it fucked my career in my 20s. I lost my professional license over it. I am still dealing with the lingering effects, career speaking.

[cth2188]

I'm sorry you went through that not every woman is out here to destroy men or wants men money. I just created a life where I don't ask men for anything unless I'm hiring them for a service.

[cth2188]

Dates = no
Sex = no
Money = no

Men were complaining about women asking them for money and now men are upset women don't need them for money 💰 make it make sense SMH

[cth2188]

Now men are complaining about a male loneliness because women have decentered them

[cth2188]

Yeah I wish you men the best I love my peaceful, quiet, and sovereign life without all that drama, chaos, and toxicity.. what your spewing is simply that

[blackeagle007]

It’s easier for women to get sex than men. That’s why there’s a stigma of women who sleep around. And yes western women are slutty. Having sex on the first date?

[cth2188]

I don't know anything about getting sex... I refuse to sleep around with the rise of STDs going around - team celibacy here and will remain celibate @blackeagle007.. I think men approaching women for sex are whores especially if they're married and partnered. No man should be asking me for sex as a single woman if he's married. I don't go out on dates with you men either - I'd rather use my B. O. B and call it a day.

[cth2188]

The only women sleeping around are 304s, SW, and OF women... Real women like me who work and own businesses don't have time to play... If I need my ass wet I can bounce around in the tub and splash in 💦

[cth2188]

Only the slutty women you know @blackeagle007 it's sad when you can't attract quality women isn't it? 💯🚩😬

[Avicenna]

If people aren’t happy with what they see locally, I don’t see a problem with looking overseas for a partner (plenty of potential pitfalls there too, though).

A lot of people really aren’t dateable. That’s nothing particularly new.

[Sal_Monella]

I did indeed go my own way. I recruited and married a Philippines woman. She has good domestic skills, loves family and children, has excellent agricultural skills, is moderate mannered, loves G0d and avoids contact with American women who are infected with the feminism virus. She is June cleaver and hop sing put together. I did not abandon western women. They abandoned me. I don't have distain for them. I just have no use for them.

[cth2188]

I do all those things cook , clean, etc but I'm not doing that for a man - what you men want are submissive slaves - I'm not a submissive slave for men

[cth2188]

There are maids , chefs, nannies etc you men can hire

[cth2188]

I love God , but I'm not here to serve men

[Ariesman81]

@sal_monellaG

Good for you. Is her staying feminine a worry of yours or has her traditional roots sunk deep enough that it's not a concern anymore?

[cth2188]

Been there and done that with marriage and men.. not happening again... I couldn't see myself chained and balled to a man as I love my freedom , space, and liberation. I deal with men on my terms if I feel like it.

[Ariesman81]

@cth2188

Great. But the question was directed at @Sal_Monella

[cth2188]

I was addressing what I said at @Sal_Monrlla

[cth2188]

@Sal_Monella

[Sal_Monella]

Good for you.

[cth2188]

You too Sal we all have to do what makes us happy

[Ariesman81]

It's only rage bait depending on if you're offended by the topic. To a lot of men, the content is validating and inspiring. But I can see why a western woman would be offended by it... it takes away from her options.

But I think you should explore other countries. My personal experience is that there are great people all over this world who share like minded values. Best of luck in your search.

[cth2188]

I travel , I meet people from all over the country , I don't travel to have sex with men, and I network with other business owners across the globe. Men sitting online rage baiting is putting a dangerous rhetoric out there.

[cth2188]

Who said anything about dating or romance - I'm talking about the harmful rhetoric being spewed further growing MISGONY and sexism.

[cth2188]

Furthermore I've been single for over 10 years so this isn't about romance or love... I'm content in my place in life..

[Ariesman81]

Cool. We don't watch the same content then.

[cth2188]

Probably not

[Ariesman81]

The content I watch teaches men how to vet for quality women.

[cth2188]

Ok that's good - I'm on a hiatus journey on my end 🔚

[Ariesman81]

Yeah, that's probably best. Get yourself right before stepping up.

[cth2188]

Right for what and who? Taking the high road and embracing my single and CELIBATE life while focusing on my finances and business

[Ariesman81]

I mean... if that's what you think your value is

[cth2188]

Travel , make money, be at peace in my home, and run my business yeah... I've been doing that for 15 years and it's not changing

[DrPepper12]

Scrubs will find a way to deflect & blame rather than look in the mirror. Tale as old as time...

[cth2188]

Ikr sigh

[RavVid]

Dangerous circumstances as in population collapse? Undoubtedly. I'm not signing up to the median 8 year marriage with 1.8 children. Why would I? I'm not that stupid.

[cth2188]

Misgnoir and sexism rhetoric

[RavVid]

Neither. Just cold probability calculations. At a casino I have nearly a 50% chance of losing on a roulette red or black bet. So I am not going to 'invest' a significant amount of money on such a bet if at all.

I have the same probability with marriage. A 50% chance of divorce by 8 years and a 50% chance of longer.

There is no emotion in this any more than emotion in deciding roulette is not a good investment. Just cold probability is all.

[exitseven]

I still think that they are hot.

[cth2188]

I'm flattered, but no longer interested in American men ( Turned off ) between the misgony and sexism it's a no in my book

[PaleDale]

Yes, growing for a long time unfortunately.