Is the U. S. becoming more sexist?

[Anonymous]

The more I meet and talk to people, the more I read the news and watch TV, the more I realize that the US is becoming a country composed of a gender war instead of an equal peaceful nation.

here’s a simple equation: More feminism = more men putting their guard up and becoming even more sexist, because they don’t understand feminism’s intentions, nor they want women to hold an equal position. Maybe fear? Maybe just an ego thing? Maybe their upbringing or religious reasons?

Yes, sadly.

No, it isn’t.

[1derfulguy]

Feminists have a blind spot the size of an elephant, namely:

The reason males are as they are is that females chose to mate with those males over aeons. If women had wanted docile men - so-called "allies" - that is who they would have mated with and conferred status upon.

Feminism is just a special interests group based on an unscientific ideology.

And feminists always defend it by providing the dictionary definition. But who cares about the original meaning of something if it has morphed into something unrecognizable?

Most feminists incessantly attack men for pretty much everything we do differently than women. I have to laugh when they complain about women being shamed for their sexuality. Men literally suppress 90% of themselves just to be acceptable to women.

Don't get me started on "the patriarchy". Oh, you mean the system in which 80% of females reproduce, and 40% of men do? How great for men. The system in which men die in wars while women stay at home? The system in which 3 times as many men commit suicide as women?

I hate mosts feminists because they are ignorant of science but still see fit to lecture everyone else about how they should behave.

[abc3643]

You are almost right. It isn't feminism, per se, but a bit of basic human nature...

There is always going to be an "Us and Them" mentality in anything involving humans. When "Us" gets attacked or blamed over and over again - rightly or not - those in "Us" eventually get defensive - vocal at first but, unless the rhetoric is toned down, violence will ensue.

This is exactly why we have an Alt-Right (white males being blamed for everything) and now an Alt-Left. (liberals finally getting fed up with being pushed around and lied about by conservative media).

Feminism is only one part of a bigger picture in this current version of an ongoing part of human societies conflicting with the human nature of its members.

[Asker]

You make perfect sense.

Also i expected these other men to get defensive since, you know, that what you describe is happening “Us and them”.

[Féminité284]

I don't think it's becoming "more" sexist as much as I think we're becoming more vocal social/interpersonal/professional issues in a way we haven't seen before. And unfortunately, I think many people (on both sides) are having a hard time expressing their views and understanding the views of the other side. We often argue with one another without *listening* to what the other side is actually saying, and that doesn't benefit anyone.

[ImagineSketchy]

The US has never been an equal peaceful nation... I'm pretty sure it never will be either. It's already incredibly racist (primarily at the core) and adding sexism is basically returning to the age of the Puritans. I left the US a while back because my original home was much better and I never asked to be in the US to begin with. Also, feminism isn't what it is supposed to be. There's no reason to even call it feminism anymore. That's why men put their guards up. It's not about equality, it's about power. The older feminism though, was equality focused.

[Map4Territory]

The internet and media amplify certain narratives that make it seem like things are getting worse. Don't judge men based on anonymous online trolls. Judge them by the everyday interactions you have with them face to face.

Also remember that what you view as the intentions of feminism is very different from what many other feminists consider its intentions. Just because someone is criticizing one school of feminism doesn't mean they are criticizing all schools of feminism.

[Anonymous]

Yes, the US is becoming more sexist and divided, but it's not for the reasons you stated. It's not because men don’t understand feminism’s intentions, it's not because men don't want women to hold an equal position and it's not because of some fear. It's because feminism of the sexism of feminism. It's because of the very gynocentric notion of "equality" feminists are fighting for, and it's because of the dishonesty and divisiveness of feminism.

Most men are all for equality, but we are just getting increasingly sick and tired of modern feminism. And it only makes matters worse when feminists say men don't understand feminism's intention. What a load of garbage. From personal experience day in and day out with feminists, we know exactly what they are and what they stand for.

[just_tired]

US is becoming more sexist because SJW wing of feminism is becoming more and more sexist towards men and by counter reaction creates more sexist reaction back and we in the middle are scratching our heads thinking WTH is going on, could you both take a chill pill and think critically for two seconds...

[i1T2daty]

It’s necoming more divided in general. That’s a direct result of technology. First generation to listen to music or watch movies individually instead of collectively. First generation to have the choice in what news one heard. Prior to everyone paying attention to major news networks, newspapers et al who reported on generally accepted facts people. Now choose news sources that agree with them.

People don’t even have conversations, they text.

[Anon85]

Y'know, for a minute I thought you were being reasonable and honest, until you called everyone sexist for not believing in your political movement. If all it takes to be considered a sexist is rejecting the modern feminist movement, I'm sexist, most reasonable people are sexist, and we're all the better for it

[AynonOMouse]

Maybe since you are obviously sexist.
If a woman holds an equal position/job title and has the same pay, she needs to do the SAME work too, not LESS work, which is what happens in reality.
The USA has been sexist for a long time against MEN.
Feminists are no good, lying, man hating, equality hating people.

[Ghost_Woof]

The U. S. is becoming a black hole that is about to implode on itself. People watch too much damn TV and try to do whatever is trendy... How many times can you look back in your life and actually have experienced 1sr hand racism? For most people probably never or maybe a rare occasion which is probably the exception. But people watch all this garbage on TV and think the world is falling apart when it's really not and people are just insecure is all.

[SirHac]

Yeah I miss clicked I meant to put no and I've come to associate the modern feminist movement with sexism it seems far to anti man although it's pretty much a cesspit of stupid conspiracy theories and making look like it's sexual harassment if a dude asked you out once and saying he raped you if he poked you in the arm

[Julien1210]

Like you said. Guys got their guard up because today feminist are fighting for stupid shit. If you talk with old feminist, you will see that most of them doesn't support the modern feminism

[AllThatSweetJazz]

That they do understand feminism's intentions is the problem. No one is bothered by women holding 'equal' positions, it's that feminism and the overarching progressive attitude is undermining equality and perpetuating sexism under the seemingly well-intentioned guise of equality. As someone who advocates for liberal principles (a "liberalist") I can't accept feminism's intentions.

[jacquesvol]

The GOP campaign against Hillary contained a lot of sexism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M28z9y4yT6Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvVp5dsuAGA

[ryancg]

No, the US is not becoming more sexist. Just take a quick look at history, being a woman now is far better than it used to be. Hell, it wasn't too long ago that women weren't even allowed to vote.

As far as the idiots that are trying to make this so-called gender war an actual thing, well, they're just idiots who get their rocks off by spewing bullshit.

[vjedi]

Probably because in the US women do hold an equal position for the most part.
Modern feminism is a joke, and while I respect women, I can't take the modern iteration of feminism seriously at all.

[Coconut_Man]

Feminism is getting more and more sexist, so guys are backing off and treating women the same way they treat other men. Guess what men aren't always nice to each other as you may have lead to believe lol

[SirRexington]

Maybe on the woman's end. But that is mostly hollywood and their bullshit.

[Anon-ymous1]

No. That's ridiculous.

Remember less than a century ago, which isn't a long time, when girls weren't even allowed to VOTE?

[Anon85]

To be fair, though, a multitude of women didn't want the ability to vote. It was a privilege that came with a lot of responsibility as well. People have this idea that women were these poor, defenseless souls before feminism came along, but it's just not true. Most of them were quite happy with men and women fulfilling different roles in society, which is why many of the biggest groups against the suffrage movement was other women.

[Anon-ymous1]

@Anon85 Yeah it was a complex issue but suffrage is... pretty damn important.

[Anon85]

I agree. It had enormous benefits in the long run. But it also had serious consequences that inevitably led to the feminism that we have today.

[Anon-ymous1]

@Anon85 Ehh... I guess? But you say that like it's a negative.

[Anon85]

The modern feminist movement is most definitely a negative. It did good work in the 1920's and all but it hasn't done anything constructive since 1963

[Anon85]

It should have run its course and then hung up its hat when the battle had been won. But it just kept fighting. And that makes you the villain of the story

[Anon-ymous1]

@Anon85 I think that's a gross mis-characterization. Making women feel empowered an on par with men in social settings is a good thing. I assume you mean that perhaps you're frustrated that people who call themselves "Feminist" today don't seem to really have a focus? Or are sometimes too angry at the world without focusing on specific things to try and change? Or have gone too far with the whole "me too" thing?

[Anon85]

Once they were on party with men by law, feeling on part with men would naturally follow. The feminist movement's continuation just fed into this idea that they still weren't equal, when all it took was a natural adjustment to the new law

[Anon85]

*on par

[Anon-ymous1]

@Anon85 I'm not sure I'm following you.

[Anon85]

If the feminist movement had ended when its progress had been accomplished, we wouldn't have the nonsensical and bitter movement we have today. The "work" that a lot of people ascribe to the feminist movement after all the legal I equalities were quelled would have been accomplished with the natural progression of time. It would have resolved itself

[Anon-ymous1]

@Anon85 Maybe, but people have always been bitter. There's nothing new under the sun. It only seems worse today because of the Internet.

[Duke1985]

No, there are just more news outlets and therefore more people talking about it. Don't worry.

[mactallica]

Feminist say things that I as a man find offensive and wemon misinterpret a lot of male community

[Snaah]

With a sexist as president I wouldn't be surprised.