a lot of American women are getting defensive on this one. Not to say there aren’t some decent American women out there. There definitely are. But I have done some traveling abroad and here are the differences “modern” Americanized women usually display vs. foreign women I’ve met Also I say “Americanized” because there are plenty of 1st and 2nd generation minority American women who display these shitty characteristics
- Americanized women usually talk talk talk. Yes women on average talk more then men. But so many American women just blabber about nonsense for the sake of talking
- Americanized women are loud and outspoken when the opportunity suites them and there is little or no risk of backlash. But they can also be cowardly and overly passive in situations that requires direct communication just for the sake of common decency. That’s why they now choose to ghost people in both friendships and in romantic situations. They engage in cowardice.
- Some American women are very driven to exercise and diet well. But others are just out of shape and fat due to laziness. They can’t own up that they are fat because of lack of effort/discipline. Rather they take the easy way out and blame men for not being attracted to that
- Many American women parrot far leftist doctrine because that is what is “in” right now. Jumping on the bandwagons. For example some go as far as claiming bisexual despite never have doing anything with another woman. They only care about social clout, image and what Hollywood entertainment says. They also might not know jack about how political policy really works but instead care only about a politicians personality.
Anyway that above is going to get me some downvotes but I don’t care. Many American (and western women) have zero idea they have it better now than women have had in all of human history. They rather cop out and drink the feminist Kool aide.
Again not all American women are like this but too many are.
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My experiences with American women are with ones I have met IRL in California and ones I have talked to online. Based on my experiences, the MAJORITY of them are promiscuous, like drugs and/or alcohol, promote/support the trans agenda and abusing kids, they support illegals (drugs and human trafficking), they support liberal politicians that let out criminals that commit murder, they are greedy (they think the man's money is for bills but her money is only hers for her enjoyment), selfish (special events, anniversary, Valentine's, wedding, etc. is all for her enjoyment only), they like drama (any disagreements in a relationship aren't discussed and solved, instead they spread things around to their friends and try to get people on their "side" instead of resolving any issues), they are overly concerned with impressing others (get them a piece of jewelry and they may like it and be happy UNTIL one of their friends gets something that looks more expensive, then they are angry and argumentative about it).
In my estimation based on the ones I have encountered, Gen X women are promiscuous and into drugs, millennial women are promiscuous and greedy/concerned with showing off, and gen Z women half are very ignorant and can't be taught the truth about anything because they have been brainwashed by liberal gen X and millennial women teachers while growing up. The other half of gen z women are intelligent enough to do research and look up statistics so they don't fall for the lies taught in k-12 schools and college.
Of course this doesn't apply to ALL of them, but the majority of each group that I have personally encountered in life, it applies to them. And I have encountered MANY more people and women than most people do due to working in education and meeting and actually getting to know so many people over the years. (Students, siblings, parents, aunts/uncles, other teachers, etc.)
Like many things here, the idea that modern American women suffer any consequential stigma is a male fantasy for those who live online. For every man who dates a non-American woman, you can bet there are ten American women dating foreign men and another ten dating American men. As an American woman who lives in a diverse city with many men from different countries and who has traveled to several other countries, there is no deficit of attention for American women. Not even a little bit that would make any noticeable difference for most American women. Like, at all. In fact, some men from other countries *like* American women and many many many of them date us for serious relationships lol
Also, if you're just talking about having a career and not being a housewife, that's not just American women - that's the majority of Western and Northern European women (many Southern European women as well), Australian women, and Canadian women. American women are not really an anomaly in the "modern woman" concept. You didn't really specify anything, so I'm not sure what else you mean.
My solution for you is simple : don't date American women! There are men who don't, it's okay. There's no need to worry about what American women are or aren't doing or how much hope there is for us (lol), if you're not dating us. Focus on non-American women instead and be happy. I know a lot of non-American women who live in the states and traveling is fun! Life's too short - focus on other women 🕺
I’m so sick of men having these expectations for women but can’t hold themselves to the same standards. She must look like this, act like this, do this, like we a fucking animal meanwhile the same things y’all expect us to do y’all can’t do for y’all selves it’s weird!!
So many YouTubers and podcasters on this I hate women train or foreign women better but be scamming y’all. You want a women to cook and clean and be home but if you can’t keep up with the household finically can she step in and do her part to make sure the lights won’t get cut off?
These foreign women will use y’all and cheat on y’all with their own kind and may even kill you so if that’s what you want cool lol
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It's not just American women; it's American culture. The media advances a woke/PC/SJW mentality and make it seem as if all young people are on board with this way of thinking but most young people are not. So the extremists get overemphasized.
Modern American women sure do live rent free in some of y’all’s heads. If one has such low regard, you’d think there wouldn’t be such fixation on talking about them all the time.
Listen there are problematic men and women in our society, you can't just say it's only us who have issues. Both sexes do, I'm not saying women are perfect we most certainly have our flaws and there's many things I don't agree on that a lot women approve or do in our society. But the longer I stay on this site, it just seems like the men here are not all that happy, I know it probably comes from bad relationships experiences, rejection etc. However this hyper focus on feminism, women being able to reject any man, having standards etc is really starting to make me think that some men just aren't happy that we have the authority to tell them no or lead our own paths. I really hope that's not the case but it's starting to seem that way.
You know... all the issues and cons of America leave no American 'not at fault.' We all grew up together. Some fueled these fires, and some watched them burn.
So if there's any issue you're aware to recognize- it means you see it and do nothing constructive about it. So go complain or pay your loyalties to another country if you must.
While the rest of us will put aside our differences and lend a hand to a neighbor, and make freedom and unity the goal in times of crisis or times of forceful corrupt control.
As far as any *specific issue* you see with women, or any issue women see with men- I KNOW that not all are guilty or fit into those negative claims. A lot of those claims are also spun by media/celebrity society
There are still good-natured Americans: men and women. People of heart.
That's really just a thing here in the states that boys use to complain because they can't develop or maintain healthy relationships. The loss of privilege can feel a lot like oppression especially when something seen as property is given the same rights as you.
As someone who does not live in America, I don't have such pessimism for American women. The relationship landscape there does seem to be having issues, similarly to other developed countries, but it is not without hope. There have been a lot of changes happening in the last few decades and a lot of people are still trying to find the best way to live and relate to each other, with mixed results. While American women are being pickier in some instances, I think the problem is that men are acting as if they have to live up to the ideals of the pickiest women of all. There are still many people getting married and at least half of them are working out. Finding a good partner is very hard but not impossible. If things are too hard just relax and try to focus on other things. The women who are picky aren't going to magically become less picky in the future. I've heard that in nursing homes men are quite a catch, so maybe just hold out until then. XD
Whats all the hate on modern intelligent women? For what its worth I married a very 1950s type of girl. Sheltered. Religious. No life experience. Bakes cookies and chats with other like minded zealots. And you know what? Sometimes it sucks... she has a very limited world perspective, zero ability to stand up for herself much less me, needs constant validation from other people. Its 10 years in and its still a work in progress.
Sometimes i wish for a woman with more spine. Ability to think for herself. A woman who can tell me to fuck off because she isn't afraid to defy some chauvinistic tradition. I wish for a woman who doesn't expect me to save the day for everything, but can stand and fight with me. An equal. Not a mindless bimbo.
I guess us guys are complicated in our desires...
Dude, I hope you realize this post, had it been put up by a woman, could read exactly the same by changing the word "women" to "men"!
As to your reply to Apple1996, this could easily be said of men to an even GREATER degree:
disloyal, promiscuous, - yes, more men cheat than women narcissistic - (more men have this disorder than women hypergamous - everyone wants to "marry up"
" And basically, the opposite of what women deem ideal partners"
These characteristics are true of "some people" everywhere in the world, dude. You post this as IF it's endemic of American women, but the rest of women in the world are ALL gems. Bullshit. I've met plenty of great women in America. Perhaps you just don't attract the worthwhile ones to your persona, for reasons we don't have to get into?
I am from India and being in academia I have friends from all over the world and thereby got a chance to meet women from different countries.
One thing I can assure you from my experience that European or US women that I know are far nicer, kinder and far more intelligent than rest. Even though I can be biased as I tend to meet only highly educated women. Somehow Asian women give off a gold digger vive , women from middle East are cool but not too Frank. Black women are cool , especially the once from US. Eastern European women are generally have tougher attitude , my friend from Bulgaria is chill but if she has a problem with you she will throw it to your face harshly.
But I don't get along with Indian women at all. Dating is screwed up due to simultaneous existence of dating and arranged marrige. If you aren't making good money while still very you and aren't flexing it , you will get a single women ever.
So with American women you are far cool.
It's not a matter of losing hope, but more a realization that we're terrible people, 73% of men polled said they'd cheat on their partner if they knew they wouldn't be caught while 68% of women said the same.
It shouldn't be a surprise that marriage rates are down and divorce rates are the highest in human history, with 48% of marriages ending in divorce. Although it's much lower among people who are conservative and religious, the divorce rate is just 14% among law enforcement and better still 7% among farmers.
So yeah, marry a republican and your chances of divorce will be 24% in your lifetime whereas the rate if you're liberal will be 88% plus your satisfaction will be lower.
We will make marriage great again!The way they are raised and what they are exposed to is very different than other countries. Americans in general should enroll in foreign exchange programs in high school years. It would do them a world of good gaining that real life experience outside of their little bubbles.
Most of the rest of the world, except for Europe, are traditionalist and moving more and more that way. American women violate those standards in every way PER Asia. They used to like America and their influence. Even “allies” are resisting the media and rest of filth that comes from America. Even the Buddhist nations are like Great Satan…
Much of the West are a bunch of spoiled, entitled, indoctrinated women. They live lives so comfy yet so busy that it's made many bored, kinda depressed, and anxious because they don't have any fulfillment in their lives. That's not all America and Western women, but enough that it's hard to find the good ones..
Not completely, because I have known some really great American women my age, so I know they exist. By great, I mean they have the traits and character that make them attractive to good modern men. There just are not enough of them today for the likes of us guys.
Not yet, but I'm getting there. There's a handful of good, caring women I've seen on GAG, but most modern women seem like stuck up c*nts with sh*tty attitudes, and I just can't be bothered to waste my time acknowledging their existence anymore. My politeness and patience with them have run out. I'm TRYING not to go full Red Pill here, but damn is it hard to keep optimism about today's women... Not that there aren't too many soyboy and scumbag men out there, also.
Honestly, I don't know. The one woman I pay more attention to than anyone else is my wife. Most of the other women I've had the privilege of knowing are very intelligent and virtuous women who are also very faithful Catholics. Sure, Catholic dating and friendships aren't without their issues. However, most of what I've observed hasn't left me feeling as pessimistic.
no... but I do live in the real world, and with real men and women
I don't live my life through the memes and trendy controversial takes from social media and screensI have lost hope for all Western women.
The Communist/Feminist mind fuck has progressed too far.
Stay away from women who have been to university. The more ‘educated’ that a woman is, the more time that she has spent in the Communist/Feminist indoctrination system.
If you have children, home school them. Keep your children away from the insane Communist paedophile groomers who infest the government system.If I had a dollar for every time I have been hated for being an Indian by white men, I'd be a multimillionaire.
American white women don't even have to deal with half of this abhorrence.
All of this is despite the fact that I'm not a feminist.
They really only like oriental women blindly no matter how alcoholic or slutty they are. It is like a fever-a sick fetish for a race. This is also why they cleverly emasculate the oriental man.Where have you gone that has a stigma against American women? If anything in most parts of the world people have only seen Americans on TV, so their curious to meet them in real life. The only countries that talk bad about Americans are known American enemies like Saudia Arabia, Russia or North Korea.
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