Constitutional scholars - cuz there's A LOT on any message board - what say you about Trump being gifted a 747 from Qutar? Constitutional? Secure?

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The Constitution stipulates that “No Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument.” Attorney General Pam Bondi and top White House lawyer David Warrington looked into the matter and concluded the plan is “legally permissible,” ABC News reported. They concluded that receiving the plane is above board because it is not being given to the president conditioned on an official act. The jumbo-jet, valued at $400 million, will then  potentially  be transferred it to the Trump presidential library foundation as the president leaves office, sources told ABC News.

OneViewpoint · Accepted Answer

Your error in this is thinking that we still have a Constitution or the balls to enforce it. The Constitution is toilet paper at this point. You can't fight Fascism with a balled up wad of paper. And the Supremes certainly aren't gonna defend the roll of toilet paper. They'll just make do with a doggy ass drag on the carpet in the hallway and hope nobody notices.

Clarence Thomas will be asking Harlan Crow for one of these bribes "not connected to an official act".

BonzoInBitburg · Accepted Answer

Imagine if Obama is flying around on a gifted 747 post presidency.

Anonymous · Answer

Some people these days are advocating for libraries to be saved for various reasons, often though do not use them themselves. Here's why I think libraries should be allowed to die.

1. They are Obsolete

In 2019 the entire content of every single library in the world not just my basic local library is available to me on a tiny hand held device such as an i-pad and that's up to date information not encylopedias from the 1920s. A portable reader like a Kindle or iPad, the convenience of accessing books on a beach, up a mountain, or anywhere else for that matter, can be irresistible. The sheer speed of research and interactivity of the internet make it an altogether richer experience than traditional libraries.

2. Environmental & financial reasons.

Libraries are large buildings that are mostly vacant except for the books inside, but these buildings need to be heated and maintained. Many are very old buildings which makes maintaining and heating them extremely costly, and to make them more environmentally sound would be expensive and not very effective. There's also the staff that have to be paid which costs the taxpayers money as libraries do not generate any money. Then there is the effect on the environment with all the trees from the Amazon being cut down just for the paper alone. All this completely unnecessary considering a person can access all the information they want on their tablet warm in their own home with minum co2 and monetary expenditure.

3. Libraries are misused.

Libraries are now places where all manner of people congregate such a drug users, alcoholics homeless people, peadophilles and other sex offenders and though I sympathise with homeless people though many are violent and unsanitary the money used funding large empty buildings would be better spent on homeless shelters. Honestly I can't imagine taking kids to a public library these days. Old people like to congregate there to read & sit or whatever but they can do that in coffee shops, community centres or old people homes. Some would argue that libraries now are mostly to do with internet & computer access for those that have no access which is fine, so a building with no books a free internet openzone for wifi access, a few tablets and about 20 computers in a room or small building that doesn't cover half an acre with books would suffice that need. My local library is a notorious place for teens to snog though it's recently become synonymous for dogging, combined with the alcoholics, drug abusers and pervs it's a recipe for disaster.

4. Books are vandalised.

You know what I'm talking about some cretin has gone to the bother of drawing penises & boobs in a book you've picked up or worse left you a gift in the green form of boggars on the page. Once i picked a photography to find the pages with female nudes stuck together.( of course boys will be boys). I read books that people have edited, some have been censored while others have had their endings revealed midway through the book or even the last pages of a climatic ending ripped out.

5. Libraries are not needed as a local forum.

Engage in local democracy some might say, that Community forums in libraries are the perfect place to meet and engage in local politics because they're neutral, non-judgemental spaces, that Libraries do so much more than just give information, there are community discussion groups and reading groups where you can talk about green initiatives or economic issues. Well again this is really grasping at straws there are other places you can do that from town halls to community centres, places that actually serve a real purpose in soceity in 2019.

6. Most things a library can do is surplus to requirement.

From entertaining kids with puppet shows, to art exhibits, to reading programmes for kids, to information awareness, to charity you name it can be performed by another organisation. Want to teach kids to read or lend them books or show them a puppet show well why not use the local school library. Having an art exhibit then why not a gallery or the town hall. Having a charity event well why not anywhere else?

7. Libraries have changed

What we think of as "The Library" is no longer the Library, "The Library" is now a global digital database not some dusty old building that houses the relics of the printing press. There's been a revolution in how we access information, it's time we all got with the times.

8. Books are heavy

Part if the reason libraries are obsolete is that books are heavy. Carrying around any real amount if knowledge in book form is damaging. Who knows how many school kids grew up to have bad posture and develop back problems thanks to all the heavy text books they had to hump around to & from school, thankfully those days are soon to be over for good.

Conclusion:

Certain historic libraries should be saved but the fact is that libraries are now completely obsolete and unnecessary to justify the taxpayers continuing to fund them especially as the public is no longer using them and instead is using the internet and reading books online. Now libraries are attempting to adapt to the new reality of information & books available fast at the tap of a few keys but ultimately they've served their purpose and no amount of yoga classes can save them. So why not save the taxpayer's money and save the environment by shutting down the majority of libraries and make better use of the taxpayer's money and the property libraries occupy.

Libraries i applaud your long service to society and civilisation but it's time for you to die.

abc3643 · Answer

As long as Congress approves, it's acceptable and legal. It's under the Emoluments Clause of the US Constitution:

Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

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The Emoluments Clause was applied when the US received this expensive gift from a foreign power: "Liberty Enlightening the World", more commonly known as the Statue of Liberty, in 1885 which Congress approved in 1886.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xcUbW_f9ZSk

Anonymous · Answer

It was given (not gifted, which is not a word) to the U. S. Air Force and even if it did end up at the presidential library, that's not a gift to the president or any elected office holder, it's a gift to the library, or the library foundation, or whatever entity is accepting it. Which is why these types of entities exist. Presidents have been accepting these types of gifts since the beginning of the country. Leftists are intentionally twisting it out of context.

And what good would it do for the library to have it anyway? It's brand new, and it's state-of-the-art technology. It would be much more useful in the hands of the Air Force and future presidents.

exitseven · Answer

I would be surprised if he accepts this gift. however , Boeing still has not completed the two Air Force One planes that Trump negotiated during his first term. Boeing needs to get on the stick.

msc545 · Answer

The law no longer matters. The Congress is completely ignoring the law and the courts have no method of enforcing it against Trump or maga. Our democracy is finished.

WindAtMyBack · Answer

It's not Trump's plane. You're implying something that is not true.

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

Nothing, if Trump takes a permanent one-way trip to Qatar !!!

Dongie · Answer

Then what could be wrong with it? "Impeachment." Hillarious! Where does Trump gain monetarily? No more than the rest of us.

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