Serious question. Name a much better male role model in the modern era than Charlie Kirk. Can you do it?

[Anonymous]

So, I've been watching some mainstream Leftist content creators like The Young Turks, The Bulwark etc. and their responses are somewhat reasonable with the usual condemning of political violence and that it's ok to have disagreeing views etc.

yet their entire comment sections are outright bashing Charlie, making excuses and blaming him for his own assassination and accusing the content creators of whitewashing Kirk and that Kirk was really just a horrible human being etc.

which has got me thinking what makes Charlie Kirk such a horrible human being? and more importantly, who do the Left think isn't a horrible human being or rather who is a much better male role model in the modern era than Charlie Kirk?

for a rundown of some of Charlie's facts

• he's not a criminal with a criminal record nor involved in any scandals i. e. MeToo
• he's not some loser incel, allergic to self-improvement but demands unrealistic sex slaves
• he's not a fuckboy who uses women for sex but saved himself for marriage to his wife
• he's a loyal husband, never cheated, abused or disrespected his wife
• he's not a party boy but a family man who loves his kids and his community
• he's a self-made man, started a business straight out of high school, worked hard and didn't hire cheap labor at the cost of American workers
• he gives a voice to the voiceless from young people to the unborn and forgotten working class and talks about the real issues
• he attends churches, supports charities including pregnancy support centers as an alternative to babies being aborted
• he stands up for his beliefs and extends his rights to even his haters whether that be the 1st and 2nd amendments (even though his haters wanna use the 2nd amendment against him)
• he prefers reading books, doesn't do drugs nor addicted to junk food, video games, porn, gambling etc.
• he's not in an age gap relationship (because age gap relationships are considered "wrong" these days)

so who's better than Charlie?

Updates

8 mo

hey Nikki you should look in the mirror first before calling anyone ugly trash

[Chazmatazz269]

I can’t think of a prominent person who is a better role model. I have met a few really good Christians in my lifetime. The kind of people that embody the value of meaningful spirituality and make nonbelievers like myself want to be a better person. Kirk was definitely that. Literally none of the garbage the left is saying about him is true. The closest they get to the truth is using some of his quotes wildly out of context.


What is really curious is how they think we’re going to buy their bullsh*t about what a monster he was, but deny being the reason he’s dead. If he was so bad, you did the world a favor. But you wanna give rightwing nutjobs all the credit? They are SO dumb, it almost makes me feel bad for them.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Here's Charlie's full quote on empathy that the shithead coward pink anon left out. Typical of them

When you consider his fame and how much he has helped the younger generation lose some of their programming in college, he was a very good role model.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday And you think this helps your case?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner is reading comprehension difficult for you? What’s your problem with the full quote?

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I think it would be your responsibility to justify what the positives of that garbage is.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner In other words, you can’t articulate any problem with the quote.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I'm sure that's something you need to believe to justify your support of a bigot.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner Then you should be able to articulate a counterpoint. Easy peasy.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Why would I, when you never answered my original question?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner you claim that there’s some problem with Charlie Kirk’s words remember.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Show me where that was said.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner it’s in my reply

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Your reply is my claim?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner read what you wrote, jackass

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Thats ez. "So you think that helps your case?" Notice you have no response to that question.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner of course it does. It exposes you lefty cowards as liars.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday What does the left have to do w/ a racist preaching lack of empathy.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner aww. Every time you type “racist” you’re saying you are a retard

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I'm sure that's a belief you need to hold especially considering the individual you're attempting to defend.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner it’s a belief everyone who isn’t a smooth brain holds.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I'm sure you're the wittyest guy at the Klan Rally. I'm not the one advocating for a dead racist.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner I know, you’re the retard who calls everything racist.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday No only those things that are racist. It's unfortunate that your decision to support those beliefs triggers to the point of Juvinelle behavior.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner but you call everything racist. Which is why you've watered down the term to nothing. Good job.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Holding that position makes it easier for you to justify supporting a racist, however since I know you don't know me, I realize there's no way you would know what I call racist outside of your specific racist views.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner I do know. Your asinine comments here are proof. The best part is that you think calling someone a "racist" still has power in the culture.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Namecalling has never had power. It only bothers those who are guilty of the actions that lead to them being called names in the first place.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner no, not at all.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday If that weren't true being called a racist wouldn't upset you so much. Sounds like I'm not the only one who has characterized you as a one.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner where am I upset? I’d love to hear this bullshit.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I think you mean how are you upset. Is English your first language?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner aww keep trying. It's got to be tough for you to be so ineffective.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Not as ineffective as the dude you're glazzing he's basically famous for getting shot.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner awww. you're still wanting attention. How cute.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I'm perfectly ontent with hearing from as few racist as possible.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner I avoid listening to liberals also.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday makes sense. The man who doesn't read is no different than the man who can't.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner you lefties are unhinged. Nothing you can write would change the world for the better. You’re mentally ill lunatics.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday I bat right, throw left. The world changed for the better the day your boy got popped w/ a bullet. He hasn't said one racist thing since.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner yawn, you're trying so hard to be edgy and cool. But everyone sees what a weak coward you are.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday Everyone? I've never once been called a coward to my face. What a bunch of weird online racist believe doesn't concern me in the least.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner I'd gladly call you a coward to your face.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday It would be interesting to see how that works out for you. What happened to the racist that was celebrating gun play?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner It’d work out just fine. You might be a Darwin Award recipient, though.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday OK, keyboard warrior, as soon as it happens I'll stop responding to you.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner ok coward.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday That is literally behind a keyboard. Perhaps one day you'll grow balls to actually try to say it to my face. Although as soon as your boy did look what happened to him.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner i gladly will. Cause you won’t do anything

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday OK, ill be waiting. Your boy thought the same thing and got clapped on site.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner ha. Im sure you will be. And will do nothing. You are a coward.

[Vegasrunner]

@seeyounexttuesday OK, well keep me updated.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@Vegasrunner I will, coward

[Anonymous]

"I can't stand the word empathy, actually," he said. "I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage."

I am just following this fine advice I heard and not caring about him in the slightest. I wouldn't want to upset his memory by being empathetic to what happened.

[Asker]

I didn't ask for the advice you're following. learn to read the question

[loveslongnails]

This is gonna be fun: for a rundown of some of Charlie's facts
* he's not a criminal with a criminal record nor involved in any scandals - but he supports criminals, like the Trump administration. No scandals? Turning Point is nothing but a grift.
* he's not some loser incel, allergic to self-improvement but demands unrealistic sex slaves - but he supported all kinds of politicians who had connections to very questionable sexual exploits
* he's not a fuckboy who uses women for sex but saved himself for marriage to his wife - so what? Millions of married men can say that, big deal.
* he's a loyal husband, never cheated, abused or disrespected his wife ---- you have no knowledge to make any of those claims. All you can say is "he was not publicly known to do x, y or z"
* he's not a party boy but a family man who loves his kids and his community -- you mean whites only?
* he's a self-made man, started a business straight out of high school, worked hard and didn't hire cheap labor at the cost of American workers -- no, he just grifted them instead
* he gives a voice to the voiceless from young people to the unborn and forgotten working class and talks about the real issues -- he was a voice for division, racism and anti-education in favor of blue collar skills only and the rejection of any intellectual pursuits that were not based on his version of the Bible
* he attends churches, supports charities including pregnancy support centers as an alternative to babies being aborted - again, so what? Millions go to church, millions support charities, millions don't favor abortion while millions do. So what?
* he stands up for his beliefs and extends his rights to even his haters whether that be the 1st and 2nd amendments (even though his haters wanna use the 2nd amendment against him) -- Standing up for your beliefs doesn't make you a great person when your beliefs aren't great to begin with.
* he prefers reading books, doesn't do drugs nor addicted to junk food, video games, porn, gambling etc.
Didn't seem to help him much when it came to understanding the world, did it?
* he's not in an age gap relationship (because age gap relationships are considered "wrong" these days)
Ah, but he supports people who are, but really, that's the least of your worries, troll

So who's better than Charlie? - Hmm... I'm not taking the judgement bait, but I could easily say "how about anyone who isn't a racist, white supremacist fake Christian Nationalist for starters.

[Asker]

"how about anyone who isn't a racist, white supremacist fake Christian Nationalist for starters"

let me guess. you're gonna put yourself as a better role model than Kirk?

I'm sure there are plenty of young men looking to become just as hateful as you

[loveslongnails]

The ones who followed CK already ARE hateful, just like him. When you learn to critically analyze someone's words and behavior, maybe you'll be ready to sit at the adult table. Till then, it's Bible study time at the Cult Institute for you.

[Asker]

thanks for your "kind" words but I'm not religious and I don't need to be religious to see CK is nowhere near as hateful as you

your hate-filled heart is so blatantly obvious it's no wonder nobody looks up to you as a role model

[loveslongnails]

You're a basic trolling idiot. CK was a ruse. Nothing about CK is worth a shit. My HATE is that stupid people like you think you're being helpful. You don't have the common sense to recognized when someone is shitting on your face and telling you it's rain. You're truly an idiot.

[loveslongnails]

* typo *** to recognize

[Asker]

keep coping that more people look up to and aspire to be CK than they aspire to be you

unlike you, I have the common sense not to eat the shit whereas you eat it all up knowing it is shit

[Cidknee]

Yes, I can! Jesus

Ha, sorry.

He is the only one I can think of.

I think I know you. Those are nice words. Only factual but at the same time it's hard to toe a line as fine as Charlie did. I say this now just as I did before he gained sainthood. I never saw him angered by the verbal and near physical abuse. He was not afraid and kept a smile for everyone. Those spewing insults didn't know him and are just doing what they're trained to do. Repeat what they are told by their programmers.
He was the best of us from start to finish. I watched many hours of his shows but the last election I was pleasantly surprised by his show streamed on YouTube. He was very smart and without college. He was a huge reason we have Trump in the White House. Its a shame we won't see him there in a decade or so.

[Lliam]

He wasn't my kind of role model. I didn't agree with many of his so-called traditional, "Christian" values or think he was important.

I might go with someone like Keanu Reeves or Mel Gibson.

[Cormac995]

Easy. President Zelensky. He's the greatest leader the world has right now.

[Asker]

elaborate further. if you had to convince a teenage boy to look up to Zelenskyy, how would you do it?

[Cormac995]

I'd tell him that as president of a country when it was attacked, he said, "I don't need an evacuation I need ammo." Then I'd tell him how he put on body armor and went to the battlefield durring the first days of the war to rally the troops in person on the front lines risking life and limb while being the president of a nation. I'll point out multiple incidents of tactical genius he over saw like operations spider web and I'll point out that under his leadership a tiny poorly equip country held the line long enough to get aid and afterwards single handedly broke the "Russian bear". there's also the fact he went from a comedian to the greatest president in Ukraine's history which is a great example of how far you can climb with ambition, integrity and force of will. On top of all of this while America hides and cowers from Russia under the worst presidency in this country's history and Europe has blinked over and over whenever Russia stared Zelensky has never stopped pushing or fighting for everything his people and soldiers need every day. there's also the fact he frequently goes to the front lines to speak with the soldiers there in person and follow progress and moral while Putin hides in a bunker like the bitch he is.

[Asker]

that's great but how does that convince any teenage boy or young man to follow in his footsteps?

[Cormac995]

I don't maybe because every kid wants to be a bad ass and that's exactly what Zelensky is?

[DrPepper12]

WOW 🤯 😳 YOU are in DEEP!!

How about REAL JESUS NOT MAGA JESUS?

[Asker]

So you believe in Jesus then?

[DrPepper12]

Historical Jesus yes. His message? ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!!!

[Asker]

this is about the modern era, not the historical era

[DrPepper12]

Of course. I thought Jesus message was timeless. My bad.

[Asker]

and what is Jesus message then?

[DrPepper12]

LOVE

[Asker]

so where's your love?

[Ariesman81]

Once you understand that the left is demonic, thinking good is bad and bad is good, it'll all start to make sense.

[Vegasrunner]

@ariesman81 The left was on the stage advocating for assassination?

[Cidknee]

Thank you Ariesman. I was getting caught up in all this sick shit I'm reading on here by these evil monsters on the left.

[exitseven]

Charlie Kirk was a good role model. there is an expression that says that you should never meet your heroes.

Maybe Charlie Kirk is the exception.

[Sal_Monella]

There are other Good Guy contenders in different realms. One is Musk and another is (OMG NO!) Trump

[Anonymous]

Nobody jumps out but in regards to the 'good' on the left I can say Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky all come to mind

[Anonymous]

He was heavily superstitious. I wouldn't call that a good role model.

[Anonymous]

He enabled violence and died by violence.

[Asker]

no he didn't but that's not answering the question anyway

[Opinion Owner]

Then you have tunnel vision.

[Asker]

you have no proof of Kirk enabling violence nor are you answering the question

[goaded]

Barack Obama.

[Asker]

yeah Obama is such a great role model, the Left don't even try to emulate him

[Anonymous]

No one.

[Vegasrunner]

Lebron James

[Asker]

maybe if it wasn't for the scandals and needing someone to take a chance on him

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker Agreed Kirk had a ton of scandals, maybe that's why he got popped. Lot of people took a chance on him.

[Asker]

do any of these scandals involve MeToo allegations? cheating allegations? PED allegations? association with P Diddy? the infiltration of mainstream sports media?

I'm not referring to his assassination when talking about someone talking a chance on either. I'm referring to their roads to success

Charlie Kirk is a self-made man. LeBron was boosted to stardom by the NBA, Nike and the mainstream sports world

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker Kirk's scandals are mostly his advocating for the killing if innocent people. Yes Lebrons road to success is obviously a lot more difficult as he was born black in America. While Kirk had the privilege of being born white.

[Asker]

who did Kirk advocate killing? can you provide a source?

skin color? really? what if they swapped skin colors? would that make a difference to you?

LeBron was already a household name when he was in high school and became an immediate millionaire at the age of 18 nevermind his God given genetics

Charlie didn't become a household name until a few years ago. Charlie's only privilege over LeBron is having 2 parents. LeBron has the privilege of a 6'9" 270 lbs athletic body which is a much better headstart than having white skin

Yet Turning Point USA was founded by Charlie. The NBA, the Cleveland Cavaliers, Nike weren't founded by LeBron. 18 year old LeBron was more successful than 31 year old Charlie so I don't know where you get this idea LeBron's road to success is more difficult

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker If you're not familiar w/ his views you probably shouldn't have a discussion about him. Yea skin color would make a huge difference of Kirk were black he would be in jail and no one would care. little, Charlie also had the privilege of being white when he said the ridiculous things he said. Takes a lot of work to be athletic, and stay healthy for 20+ years at the highest level in your industry. Thst speaks more to the work ethics of Lebron, doesn't take much work to spew hateful rhetoric behind a microphone. 18 Yro Lebron had talent 31 yro Kirk didn't.

[Asker]

Kirk would be in jail for what? since LeBron is black, why isn't he in jail then?

sure it does take a lot of work to maintain athleticism but that ain't unique to LeBron if we ignore the PED allegations. changing the political direction of a country takes even more work. LeBron endorsed Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris and made no difference in the elections

18 yo LeBron having talent over 31 yo Kirk only proves LeBron's road isn't more difficult at all. you're only proving LeBron had it easier in life than Kirk

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker That's the question many black families have asked for years. Being black isn't a crime, in America, being poor and black is. If athleticism isn't unique there would be more than 450 players on the planet in the NBA. Sounds like you should ignore them, im actually in basketball and we've never heard any nonsense like that, but it also shows how when you're black you need to be 3x as good to have success. We agree on thst and thankfully through his hours of charity, education and service Lebron had done a great job of changing the political direction of the country, in a positive direction despite evil people like Kirk fighting hard for mediocrity and oppression. I endorsed Hillaru and Kamala as well, because they were the only viable candidate. Perhaps had they won America wouldn't be the joke it's become, with white boys randomly shooting white boys but we'll never know. Black kid from the projects in Akron had it better than the poor white boy who was handed everything?

[Asker]

neither being black or being poor is a crime. committing crime is a crime. why criminals commit crime is a different story. Tyler Robinson was neither poor or black yet he shot Charlie Kirk

the NBA would allow for more than 450 players if most players were ok with getting little to no playing time

I'm in basketball too and LeBron isn't looked as favorably as you would think. most of the older generation still rank Michael, Kobe, Magic, Larry, Wilt, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Bird, Duncan ahead of LeBron. LeBron's former teammates don't all look favorably upon him. Just ask Kyrie and Westbrook. the younger players who look up to him i. e. Ben Simmons, Lonzo Ball are all failing whereas those who looked up to others like KD i. e. Antman, Chet and Victor are thriving. People who know Charlie Kirk personally have never had a bad word on him

if we are to ignore LeBron's allegation scandals we should ignore Kirk's allegation scandals, not that you've provided a source for him advocating for violence

you don't need to be 3x as good to have success. where are you getting this statistic from?

LeBron hasn't changed the political climate of the country at all. I would make the case Taylor Swift has more influence than LeBron in politics and she couldn't move the needle either

neither Hilary or Kamala won the election, not even in LeBron's home state of Ohio

what was handed to Charlie Kirk? a Nike shoe deal? the keys to the Cleveland Cavaliers? the next face of the NBA? a multi-million dollar contract?

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker unfortunately in America its one of the biggest crimes you can commit and has been justified by numerous acquitals.
No that NBA statement made no sense amd is not only false but impossible, stick to discussing things you know.
That's a different discussion all together, what job do you hold in basketball? I don't need a source for something I witnessed with my own eyes. If you haven't that says more about your own shortcomings. If you're black you need to be a minimum of 3x as good to have success in America. Lebron has done an amazing job of changing the political climate, helping over 100K plus citicizens warn the right to vote. Many are black and brown which rubs the racist the wrong way. Losing is part of competition, it does not diminish the contribution he's made to politics. The dude that caught the bullet was handed a microphone and the ability to spew hate filled rhetoric, well at least until someone did the world a favor and gave him what he fought so hard to defend. He was a huge advocate of the "2nd admendment" shoudnt we be celebrating his shooting for giving him what he advocated for?

[Asker]

where's your evidence being black is one of the biggest crimes in America?

it's not impossible given that starters can average well over 20+ mins with superstars getting 30+ mins of playtime while the 13-15 man on the bench would be lucky to get any playing time

scouting not that it matters and neither does whatever job you have either and I guess "your own eyes" are the ultimate authority, right?

LeBron has not changed the political climate anymore than Beyonce, Usher, Oprah, Swift and many other celebrities who came out for Kamala. LeBron could support Trump and it wouldn't make a difference either not that LeBron would know how to properly endorse either candidate

LeBron isn't gonna be remembered for any of his politics. He's no Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr, Muhammed Ali, Rosa Parks or Bill Russell for that matter

Charlie Kirk advocated for self-defense, not violence. the shooter only did leftists a favor because they couldn't beat him in a debate but hey, I see you're one of those lunatics who celebrated his death

I don't know how you can claim Charlie Kirk is more privileged than LeBron yet argue that LeBron at every age has been more successful than Charlie Kirk at his peak. you can't have your cake and eat it too

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker History. If you are truly an NBA scout than our paths have crossed several times including this summer. Not many scouts can get away with spewing racist views though. That's a vague opinion coming from someone who knows nothing of LBJ's political contributions. Its also factually wrong, but again how would you know? Actually they said they same thing about all those guys you mentioned including Bill Russell. The oppressor never acknowledges leadership during the fight, it will be 20 - 30 years later but Lebrons work, Jaylen Browns as well will be remembered in the black community. How well it sits w/ a bunch of racist hypocrites isn't relevant. Kirk the standard born on third pretending to hit a home run racist white not who has plagued America since it's inception. Kirk's been defeated in many debates, however when you are holding the mic and running the platform you control what the listerner hears. I don't have time to celebrate the death of a hateful white boy, especially the same day important people were murdered. If anything you should be glad, he died advocating what he loved.
I know you "don't know" that's because you're making a false correlation between between privilege and success. Less than 5000 people have played in the NBA, and dick head can pick up a mic and spew hate.

[Asker]

what views are racist? not believing in any form of racial privilege?

no NBA player of today has contributed anything politically. millions of people didn't suddenly vote Kamala because LeBron said so. just voicing your opinion on what's going on in the news isn't contributing anything politically. LeBron and Jaylen Brown will only be remembered for their NBA careers not their non-existent political careers

the men I mentioned actually did contribute politically. their platforms were self-made and they wouldn't look at NBA players of today as their community leaders.

I've yet to see a debate Kirk has actually lost. all his debates can be seen in long format so no he doesn't control what the listener hears

there's no false correlation. you clearly want your cake and eat it too

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker A simple Google search of Kirk's racist statements should answer that question for you. Several current players have donated to political campaigns, you can't be an actual basketball scout and make that false statement, there's an entire political fund players have the choice to contribute to. Again obviously not true since Bill Russell personal endorsed Jalyen Brown. I've seen tons he lost, so perhaps your ignorance is skewing your objectivity. Doesn't matter anyway as he can donate Hitler in Hell now.

[Asker]

or watching the actual long format video itself will disprove any accusations of racism

donating to political campaigns is not unique to NBA players. anyone can do that including you and me. NBA players can donate to Trump instead and it wouldn't make a difference

Bill Russell and Jaylen Brown are both Celtic lifers. it makes sense for them to be on great terms

your hatred is skewing your objectivity. point to a long format debate where he actually lost

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker Telling someone not to believe their lying eyes is an old trick, many racist have used for years. Both Hitler and Cheetoe were good at that. That's your own ignorance that limits their financial contributions as the sum total of their political involvement. Be interesting to know why you decide to limit it.
Your Bill Russell statement has zero relevance to what I said, Bob Cousy is also a Celtic lifer, however because he didn't have to fight injustice he's not able to relate to JB in the same manner. If I understand your position, hatred is a good thing considering you support a dude who caught a bullet for being hateful.

[Asker]

yeah keep projecting your own hatred and racism onto others and accuse others of being racist. very classic move of yours

you don't understand my position at all. I doubt you understand your own position

you want me to believe LeBron is superior to Charlie in every way, more fame, more wealth, more trophies, more athletic, better genes, more women lusting after him etc. yet you also want me to believe Charlie is more privileged than LeBron because he has less melanin?

Charlie gets attacked more for being white than LeBron does for being black and you're living proof of this

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Lol, that theory may make sense of you werent supporting an actual racist. Everyone understands your position, your feelings are hurt because no one cares that the hate spewing racist you were brainwashed by got what he had been advocating for. Its actually a common priveledged white man position. Personally I don't care what you believe because, I don't respect people who respect the views of racist. little Charlie got attacked because he spewed racist rhetoric, he's no different then the Ghetto gang banger who makes a dis track for hip ops. He got want he had been asking for, and can spend eternity debating Hitler in Hell.

[Asker]

lol you can't even provide any evidence of Charlie spewing anything racist nor provide proof he wanted to get shot

Charlie ain't remotely close to any ghetto gang banger. he's not hanging around gangs, doing drugs, banging women and using them for sex, committing crimes, shooting others etc.

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker You've provided nothing but the same hypocritical rhetoric that that clown provided. All those things are subjective, so there's nothing I'm going to provide to change your mind. A fool will remain a fool until he chooses another path. I feel the same way about his death as he felt about the deaths of MLK, Malcolm and the thousands of kids that got shot. If you want to waste empathy on a dude like that go right ahead but attempting to think that others are somehow flawed because they dont is insane and part of the selective compasion people are speaking of. Just like your selective reading never said he was a gang banger said he was no better than one. So he got what he deserved world's a better place w/out him. My only wish is that he was alive again so he can catch another bullet. He wanted to advocate for gun violence there's his gun violence. Truth is like most white people what u guys mean is we advocate for gun violence against others but if something happens to us it's bad.

[Asker]

you made the claim Charlie is racist. the burden of proof is on you to prove Charlie is a racist and you've failed at that. you've failed to provide a long format video source of where you got your claims from

selective reading? did I say you were directly comparing Charlie to a ghetto gang banger? hell no. assess your selective reading first before projecting it onto others. check yourself before you wreck yourself

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker Lol, me and millions of others. If we were in a court of law and you were legally obligated to tell the truth under penalty if purgury then I could provide you w/ proof. However provide evidence to a brainwashed moron incentivized to lie is a waste of time. If you don't believe the dude whe caught a bullet isn't a racist that's on you not on me. Furthermore you'vyou've provided zero evidence he wasn't so you're hypocritical at best. Yes selective reading. You took what I said removed the part u can't refute and are pretending my statement is the part you concocted it's actually a similar tactic used by the gang leader who just got shot.

[Asker]

you made the claim. you provide the proof

the onus is on you to prove someone is guilty. the onus is not on them to prove they are innocent

by your logic, someone could accuse you of rape and you need to provide proof you didn't rape them since you're automatically guilty

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker How does that benifit me? You should never try to change the mind of a fool, simply keep them talking so you can understand their position. Yes if we were in a court of law and your dishonesty was controlled then you are correct we could provide evidence. In a conversation w/ a low IQ hypocrite, it would be a waste of time. Again no your logic is flawed, because rape is a crime debated in a court of law our conversation is not.

[Asker]

how does that benefit you? according to you, I'm supposed to believe you Charlie Kirk is racist because you said so

my logic isn't flawed at all. change the word "rape" with the words "being racist" and it'd still apply and it doesn't need to be in a court of law

someone could accuse you of being racist and you need to provide proof you're not racist because you're automatically racist otherwise proven otherwise

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker Now I see your confusion. I don't care what you believe. In fact I'm more concerned about understanding why you believe what you believe. Not only is your logic flawed it's rooted in ignorance. Accusing someone of rape is a crime, and publicly accusing them results in an investigation. Accusing someone of being a racist isn't a crime, and is protected under the 1st amendment. If someone accused me of being racist that would be their opinion, and I wouldn't lose a second sleep thinking about it. I certainly wouldn't waste my time trying to prove otherwise.

[Asker]

lol you're undermining your own credibility

crime or not, all credible claims require proof which you have none of

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker That's not possible, I'm allowing talking to you and you're powerless to effect my life in any meaningful way. By logic your counter argument would need proof, and you've provided none. It's a standard immature white racists rheotorc tactic. Your beliefs must be taken at face value but everyone else must jump through hoops to satisfy your curiosity as if you matter. That even ignores the fact that you started this conversation discussing Lebron James' scandals yet have provided no evidence to it. It's the same manipulate, rhetoric that got the last bigot clapped.

[Asker]

who said anything about trying to affect your life? asking for proof has nothing to do with race but somehow someway, you find a way to include race

where do you wanna begin with LeBron's scandals? let's start with P Diddy then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZonQ7l5xZo

now provide me proof Charlie Kirk is a racist

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker If you want to pay me then maybe I'll think about it but I don't see what I get out of educating you.

[Asker]

so basically, you have nothing... not surprising at all

[Vegasrunner]

@Asker That certainly is a position you're welcome to hold, but you don't matter.

[Anonymous]

PBD.