Is US a christian nation?

[OddBeMe]

Cuz... Leviticus 19:33-34

Yes! Except for the foreigners part!

No, we are not

[MisterWack]

America is the furthest from Christian God, we are a nation founded by and for the wealthiest among us even at the cost of our working class citizens and our huddled masses that built this nation to being as great as it is. Lobbying efforts, Supreme Court ruling corporations are human beings, and corrupt politicians on both sides of the spectrum hiding who they truly are and their corporate overlords corrodes the system of government which was wrought to be “For The People, By The People”.

America is a beautiful beacon founded on immigration waves from Irish to Mexican to Indian to Hispanic to Catholic to African to Jewish to Russian to Polish to Italian to everything in between. We are a shining city on a hill as Reagan proclaimed.
There is no nation like this in the world where there’s such a melting pot of cultures that it becomes the true culture. Chinatown, Jewish Communities, Various Houses of Faith, and everyone can live as one umbrella of Freedom, Patriotism, and Pure known as “American”.

I see America as a town with neighbors, our diversity makes us stronger.
Different viewpoints Conservative or Progressive, Different religious practices Christian or Jewish or Muslim or other, and Different Cultures from Italian to Irish to so on.
It is beautiful, our identity makes us pure and feel as though we are a connected community, United as one people.

[abc3643]

In 1797, Founding Father and President John Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli which was unanimously approved by Congress. This statement in Article 11 is what is important.

"... the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

So, no, the United States is not a Christian nation.

The United States doesn't adhere to or establish or ban any religion. This is codified in the First Amendment's Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

https://www.varsitytutors.com/earlyamerica/early-america-review/volume-2/secular-government

[Anonymous]

Christians are often the least Christian-acting people you'll ever meet. The MAGA group particularly likes to cherry pick which parts of the bible they like and which they don't. So they are anti-immigrant, often in a racist way, are filled with hate for so many people but defend it by saying they are anti-abortion and that's often their only definition of what makes them a good Christian.

[Anonymous]

Deuteronomy 32:8

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

[boundless]

Leviticus 19:33-34

33 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. 34 You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

"You" in the context are the House of Israel. The sojourns are non-Israelites that convert and follow the law. It's pretty funny how you try to use the Bible to defend illegal aliens and specifically non-Christian illegal aliens when all you have done is proved our point that those who travel with us must follow the law and convert to our ways.

[boundless]

Exodus 12:48-49

48 If a stranger shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it. 49 There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you.”

[boundless]

This is exactly what the USA does. America was founded on Judeo-Christian morality. We allow foreigners to immigrate to the USA so long as they do so within the law and they integrate into our society. Those who break our laws and do not integrate are deported because they are denying the Lord and refusing to follow the Law.

[boundless]

You see when you try to twist the Bible with your demonology, it only smacks you right in the face with the Truth...

[boundless]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lniTo4N6NA8

[boundless]

Convert, assimilate, and follow the law...

Matthew 24:14

14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

[OddBeMe]

But we dont allow poor people to immigrate. Thats why they enter illegally

[boundless]

What are you talking about? How did all the Black Africans get here then? As I remember it, the Democrats couldn't bring them here fast enough. They had to engineer special slave ships to stack them...

[beefcakebradybatson]

Judeo-Christian morality such as African slavery and oppression and Indigenous genocide and dispossession, eh, pardner?

[boundless]

@beefcakebradybatson You're Muslim and you told me your grandfather hung around with a bunch of black guys and played with their baseball bats. Obviously that was a euphemism for the night of the Al Zutt. Now you're trying to project Muslim race based slavery ideology onto Judeo-Christian which is clearly in the Islamic texts and not anywhere in Judaism or Christianity. Id say get the verse, but clearly you don't know how to read. You're retarded, you went full Muslim in the Al Zutt sense.

[goaded]

"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims)..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli 1797

You know, back when the founders were still alive.

[Kaneki05]

It's not meant to be, but it is more so than England and England is meant to be.
Which is ironic given the history of US and England. And how I know it is because I've been to US and you have way more Christian bs everywhere than us nvm it still holds massive weight against abortion in many states.

[IHaveRespawned]

There is a difference between welcoming foreign persons and allowing foreigners to trample over a nation's customs, take advantage of a nation, and exploit their citizens. They want to immigrate without assimilation. That is where the problem is.

[OneViewpoint]

The US is intended to be a secular nation. Unfortunately we have a minority of extremist Evangelical Christian zealots who whine constantly about their sick twisted version of Christianity being under attack. Those shitbags are neither secular nor Christian and we need to get rid of them.

[beefcakebradybatson]

RIGHT ON, ONE VIEWPOINT !!!

[slatyb]

There's no mention of Christianity or God in the Constitution. It's still majority Christian, and almost the entire Congress at least claims to be Christian, but Christians are a shrinking majority. Eventually I expect that the US will become majority secular like most of the developed countries.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

That passage has nothing to do with illegal immigration. They come here and STEAL from the social security system and the healthcare, which drives up cost of living for everyone else, and they bring their illegal drugs and guns here on top of that.

[lightbulb27]

nope, not at all...

some places, the roots of influence yes.

actually, no.

[Snakeyes7]

If foreigners break your rules and exploit others, they should be punished. That is how our own citizens are treated. The refusal to deport them when they break the law is NOT treating them the same as your own citizens.

[OddBeMe]

And native born? You guys have such a hard on for kicking out brown people who are 10x less likely to commit the crimes of native born.

[findacure4wokeness]

@OddBeMe Would you rather we treat POC like POC treat whites in their countries? Like the south Africanis murdered in their own homes and tortured with oxy torches etc. Everyone there knows at least 10 people murdered by blacks.

[OddBeMe]

@findacure4wokeness how are whites treated in their countries? And why is that a variable?

[findacure4wokeness]

@OddBeMe POC are10 times more likely to murder others and all we get is Denial of those types of facts and get accused of the very things POC mostly do. Whites are raped murdered discriminated against in the once very safe countries we built for ourselves and our children. we aren't allowed to have a culture or racial identity like everyone else can. Why can't brown people just take the hint and respectfully leave us alone? And before you bring up the Natives who want to be left alone they are left alone, No whites are crying racism for not being included in their tribal camps, Access to white areas is not a human right. What makes you think you the right to blend my people out of existence?

[Snakeyes7]

@OddBeMe If they bypassed immigration policy, they committed a crime.

[OddBeMe]

Pretty fcking small one. Like business fraud, say?

[Snakeyes7]

@OddBeMe Let's say the government sends one of them to live in your home where they will do whatever they want, including freeloading, raping your wife and children, general destruction of your property or even try to kill you because you are an infidel to their religion. I will also make sure the cops laugh at you and call you a bigot if you try to have them removed.

Think its such a small thing now?

[OddBeMe]

Better than a trump who'd steal something

[Snakeyes7]

You'd rather have your property destroyed and your women and children raped than Trump imprisoning the leader of Venezuelan narco terrorists. That explains a lot.

[Snakeyes7]

Or Trump "stealing" anything for that matter.

[NathanDavis]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fxHWtw_GZIk

America...

[exitseven]

Yes. Even our money says "In God We Trust". You don;t have to like it but that's the way it is

[OddBeMe]

And Leviticus 19:33-34?
"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.".

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe Yuo do not mistreat them but they have to respect out culture which they clearly do not.

[OddBeMe]

How are they not? They're working paying taxes and not taking a dime from welfare. Because they can't

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe Hahahahahaha yes , they do not take a dime from welfare. just ask the states where Somalians are scamming billions of dollars. Here is an article from a pro illegal alien organization and even they fess up to the scam.
cis.org/.../Course-Illegal-Immigrants-Access-Public-Health-Benefits

[Dargil]

No longer. We are still a culturally Christian nation. But not religiously.

[OddBeMe]

Whats the difference? Culturally we dont follow the Bible?

[Dargil]

I'm not going to waste much time on this but cultural Christianity maintains stability by retaining Christian mores.

[OddBeMe]

They stole those mores from previous religions

Don't see Buddhists blowing up preg clinics or trafficking children

[Dargil]

Why does the first matter to you?
How is the second relevant to a Christian nation,

[OddBeMe]

Those are Christian mores. Kill abortionists and its ok to abuse kids. If we didn't think that, the Vatican would be like Venezuela

[Dargil]

Cultural Christians adhere to the traditions and mores but don't give much thought to the doctrines.

[OddBeMe]

Funny how many Christians in prison... versus say atheists?

[Dargil]

Your time is up.

[OddBeMe]

Be a good christian

[beefcakebradybatson]

H**L to the NO!!! America wouldn't know true Christianity if Jesus returned tomorrow and bit each Yankee slob/slobbette in their bulbous a**!!!

[Sal_Monella]

So what Christian denomination are you a member of?

[Anonymous]

LOL. Did you know that there are 30,000 passages in the Bible? I would not say America is or is not a Christian nation based on any singular passage.