Can't we just have the Civil War 2.0 and get it over with?

[IHaveRespawned]

I am tired of all the woke crap. I am sick and tired of the leftist social engineering propaganda. I am tired of the hostility towards white people, Christians, and Jews. I am sick and tired of the efforts to globalize our nation.

Why can't the woke left go one way and the patriotic, traditional, faith-driven people go the other? It is time for a national divorce. Either mutually agree to split up or let's have the civil war and get it over with already!

I am ready for a return of normalcy. I am ready for the return of the citizens-first-before-everyone-else approach.

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By the way, if any woke nation wants California and the people who live there, please take them off our hands.

[DextroShade]

I want to brutally kill as many woke people as I can and a war would be the only opportunity for me to do that without going to prison.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Nice Hitlerian attitude, a**hole !!!

[IHaveRespawned]

@beefcakebradybatson Hey enough of the name calling. The question you should be asking yourself is whether or not you are willing to die for your far left causes?

[DextroShade]

If he is, I am more than happy to make that happen!

[beefcakebradybatson]

WHAT far left causes? You want to kill others to expedite your Fascist beliefs, boy-o !!!

[Cidknee]

How many celebrated the murder of a peaceful family man and fellow Christian? How do you figure they feel?

[beefcakebradybatson]

The millions of casualties, but it's getting inevitable.

[Mike_Hum]

Plus all the blue state refugees will head north.

[Tamera952]

What woke crap? Civil war? …Man you’re in it deep. The problem may lie with your immediate environment, that perhaps you need to break away from, maybe just temporarily. (I’m talking your family, friends, city, state, Fox News, and whatever right wing moron online you’re getting this ‘info’ from…) Wish someone could pluck you up, and drop you somewhere else, in the real world.
From the outside, looking at what you wrote, I think the most pressing and obvious sign of your perspective being skewed is the fact that you actually believe that there is “hostility” toward “white people” and “Christians” — 🤣😂😂❗️

WHATTT? I am literally rolling over laughing my ass off that you’d say something (unironically, with a serious face) that is SO out of touch, and SO completely insane! Two of the most privileged, over represented, grandfathered in, and both given far more deference and reverence than any other racial group or religion—you so wrongly think, are victims and being prosecuted? Do you have any idea how nuts that sounds? Anyone with any sense, hears that and think you’re out of your mind. Don’t make me go on and on about why this is the case for white people and Christianity.

Before it comes to ‘civil war’ I think a better solution is finding a way to get back to agreement on what is objectively true, and what isn’t. It’s easier to resolve a disagreement, when both parties start from the same place, when they agree what is and isn’t real, and what is happening and isn’t,

Some how in the recent past (mainly coincidentally coinciding with Trump and the MAGA movement, …go figure) there has been a departure from reality, and a war on truth and an unwarranted perpetual aggrieved collective victimhood. MAGA believes that it is the one truly aggrieved population in the country. Not only does Maga believe this, Maga wallows in the idea of its own persecution. This is astounding. But that aside, you tell me what ‘woke’ things are having an immediate impact on your life, that you think a civil war is the answer.

[Cidknee]

Why do you suppose churches were invaded by left-wing radicals over the past few weeks?

[IHaveRespawned]

@Cidknee There was a church invaded in Minneapolis and a synagogue invaded recently (cannot recall where) where a group of agitators threw diapers

[Cidknee]

@ᗰIᑎᑕᕼᗩᑎ@IHaveRespawned
Those folks of a certain forceful religion use the left wing to get a foothold in new areas to facilitate a future takeover of that country.

[abc3643]

THIS:
"I am ready for a return of normalcy. I am ready for the return of the citizens-first-before-everyone-else approach."

You have a lot of growing up to do - especially when it comes to ethics and history which you apparently don't have much knowledge of. You don't remember normalcy because you never lived in such a time.

As for "wokeness", it's been around for a long time. That's partly what Christianity is about. Being "woke" simply means being aware that there are other people than yourself and that they have needs and wants and desires as well and that their living conditions and constraints on their existence may be different than yours. It doesn't mean bending over backwards to appease them, but it does mean to be considerate of them and for them to be considerate of you. In short, it's "If I were in your shoes..." But it's also about "United We Stand" or "E Pluribus Unum"... We are composed of people from all backgrounds...

Welcome to 1949:

And 1945:

https://youtu.be/ovwHkb1wEfU

And from the 1960s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXBVzLLcSchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi7QQ5pO7_A

Furthermore, being "woke" is far from being a liberal thing. For example, rural conservatives would want "elites" as you call them to be "woke" about the lifestyles and needs of their communities. A classic example of just that is the Rural Electrification Act of 1936. Electric power generation companies didn't want to electrify rural areas because they would lose money on doing so; the cost to put in the infrastructure wouldn't be recovered through the electric bills of so few customers. So, instead, the Federal Government, being "woke" to the needs of these people, by offering low-interest loans so companies would electrify these areas.

Meanwhile, about immigrants and the poor and those who need help... you know, what Christianity is supposed to be about...

From the poem The New Colossus on the 1903 Plaque Inscription on the Statue of Liberty. These famous lines define the statue as a beacon for immigrants:

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Meanwhile...

Matthew 5:3–12 (The Beatitudes)

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the Earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be satisfied.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called the Sons of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
11 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you...

Don't claim to be a Christian and then do the opposite of what Christianity calls for.
Don't claim to be an American and then act un-American as Superman discussed.

[Chazmatazz269]

Classic deflection. Woke ain’t what it was meant to be, if it EVER had an altruistic motive.
It’s no different than “feminism”, “toxic masculinity” and “black fatigue”. Modern wokies are sick in the head and flat out hateful. Your delusional comparison to cultural norms that NEVER applied the term is nothing short of willful ignorance. Do you even believe your nonsense, bot?

[abc3643]

@Chazmatazz269 Considering I am remembering things while you were still swimming in your father's balls and witnessed changes while you were still shitting your diapers, yes, I do believe what I said.

Muting.

[slatyb]

Typical red hat. When the facts aren't on their side, they resort to name-calling like a child on a playground.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I'm 72. Think of the changes handsome Brady has seen!!!

[Syntosi]

Ahaha! Man, you guys are so weak. If you dont get given exactly what you want on a silver platter then you immediately throw a tantrum and starts to fantasize about how nice it would feel if everything just burnt down to the ground.

I mean seriously, you guys are currently in charge and you are FINALLY "getting" what you want and yet here you are whining about how its not enough and that it would be better to literally have a civil war about it.

But let's just face it. The "Normalcy" that you crave so much, was when WE were in charge. Why? Because you can't govern shit, and you never could. You lived your best life when someone else was in charge because you dont know what you need and are mad about it.

I have one word for you. Childish.

[Hardon-Collider]

I congratulate you. Your opinion was ai generated. And that's good. It means you're not mentally ill enough to type out paragraphs of this political nothingness like the asker and everyone else who left lengthy opinions.

[Syntosi]

@Hardon-Collider Wtf are you talking about? Putting aside the AI nonsense, that is less than 150 words. How the hell would you even construed that as a "lengthy opinion"? Have people truly gotten so lazy and attention deficit that they can't even hold a normal conversation anymore without the need for some sort of stimuli?

[slatyb]

@Hardon-Collider I suppose it's lengthy when are moving your lips at fifty words per minute. For the rest of us 150 words is 30 seconds or less.

[loveslongnails]

LMAO. And we're so tired of the fact that:
a) You STILL don't know what "woke" means
b) You think that you can exist as an isolationist nation when nearly EVERYTHING you eat, use, buy or sell is based on a world economy
c) You won't secede, form your own dumb ass nation, and leave the good people alone

We're tired of your bullshit too, and your fascism, and all of YOUR propaganda. It's fucking annoying, along with you white supremacist, make believe Christian crap.

There has NEVER been a citizens first approach in the USA. N E V E R. E V E R
The closest was FDR's New Deal, but that's too much like socialism for you.

[IHaveRespawned]

My definition of woke:

The left's radical use of identity politics and social engineering practices that norms, traditions, and the status quo, paired with a notion that society is systemically racist, homophobic, transphobic, or otherwise biased against a class of people.

These radical practices include Critical Race Theory (CRT), DEI, neofeminism, facilitated immigration to transform the demographics of an area, affirmative action and giving handouts/benefits to people based on their race/ethnicity.

These initiatives often are to challenge or exclude people who are white, male, straight, Christian, Jewish, or most often a combination of these in favor of people who are foreign, people of "color", Islamic, female, trangender, or gay/lesbian.

[IHaveRespawned]

*that CHALLENGE norms, traditions, and the status quo

[loveslongnails]

Aw, nice that YOU have your own personal definition of woke. That's adorable.
That's not what it means.

Here are some FACTS for you deal with and deny:

* NOBODY teaches CRT on any level lower than college, and even then, it's an elective course and another one of your dog whistles. 99% of maga's and conservatives don't have a clue what it is.
* "Neofeminism" isn't feminism at all; is misandry. Extremists hijacked it. Learn the difference.
* You know gets the vast majority of HANDOUTS in the USA? Poor white people. Look it up.
* EVERY ONE of Trump's cabinet appointees is a DEI hire, with the possible exception of Bondi who at least had a law degree. Even so, she's still incompetent.
** And you're ignorant enough to try and sell the idea that white people are poor because non-white people are getting all the breaks and the hand-outs.

All of your words are just your inner fears coming out because you are experiencing the "burst extinction" bubble. You're terrified of not seeing enough white faces around you, so you paint yourselves as victims.

NEWS FLASH respawn: You're already DEEPLY in the minority world wide. Caucasians make up only 16% of the world's population. This is what you're afraid of; losing whatever power you have left.

[slatyb]

CRT -- you can't even define it.
Neofeminism -- you can't define that either.
White men can't compete because the playing field has finally been leveled and women are beating them.

[IHaveRespawned]

@slatyb I sat through Critical Race Theory at my workplace that was mandated by my company. Want the company name? It is Tombras. I was fired the next day after speaking out. They were pushing all this "white privilege" crap terminology. Essentially it is pushing an ideology that minorities are "oppressed" because of white men

[loveslongnails]

Yeah, we heard that story already. I looked at the Tombras outline and it's a shitty presentation. It was stupid of your company to do a presentation on a thesis level topic, because most Americans process at a 6th grade level (look in the mirror... yeah, that guy).

But while you were too busy being triggered, you missed the point. CRT, like I said, is a GRADUATE LEVEL THEORY. Presenting it like a sexual harassment seminar was a stupid move by your company.

Personally, it's obvious to me that there IS inherent racism in the USA and it has been there since it's inception. Personally, I think you are anyone who can't see that is ignorant on this subject, and it's a YOU problem. It's not a problem with the theory, it's a YOU problem, in MY opinion.

If you don't think white men have oppressed minorities in the USA since it began, you're not very bright or well educated... in my opinion. You're just afraid of extinction and can't even accept history for what it was.

[permanentem]

No one is stopping you from moving. There are 50 states in the USA. Move to one with like minded people and increase their population. States with higher populations gain more representation in Congress. Shift power from the side you don't like to the side you do like by talking with your feet. If you increase the size of another state by moving you shrink the population of the other state you left, thus removing their power and authority over the country.

[permanentem]

One of the things American capitalism emphasizes is competition. There are competing ideologies with associated governing policies. So choose to live under the type of government you want not the one you don't want. You don't need to complain and petition the government you don't want, just don't live under (move), don't pay taxes to their governing body, and don't spend money in their economy. If you don't provide your labor in their market and don't pay them taxes then their economic power base dwindles. If you don't live in their state their census numbers shift downwards and their political power dwindles. If you won't serve in their state guard/national guard/police force by moving out of their jurisdiction than their level of force dwindles.

[permanentem]

Ideologies that have no political support, no money, and no force die out...

[NaultD]

Someone has to put there nuts on the chopping block and make a new constitution of law. As the founding fathers did who won and how the Confederate rebels did but lost.

https://youtu.be/Ez9Emsj7cas?si=5Zf1X6qoMl62zJY6

[IHaveRespawned]

Nothing in the constitution says to allow ourselves to be invaded by foreign nationals in the masses or socially engineering our communities.

[NaultD]

Make a new constitution and see how it goes.

Also majority of illegal immigrants come from planes. Do the visa and over stay said visa. What can you do about that legal crossing? Billions of people are flying in and out and 1% break a civil law. Where they crossing is legal in crossing but over stay are we supposed read people's mind psychically charge them of a crime they think about?

[IHaveRespawned]

I am just saying right now we desperately need an ICE raid in Knoxville and Oak Ridge, Tennessee!

[NaultD]

How does ice kidnapping kids and laborers help Tennessee?

[NaultD]

Also if ice could some how departed dangerous individuals they would give rapist and murderers a free ride home. Leaving no justice to the victims. That makes you feel good inside?

[IHaveRespawned]

Nope, the ones who commit egregious crimes while already here illegally shall go to CECOT, Gitmo, or executed.

[Anonymous]

what we NEED is "war at the ballot box". We need so many citizens to turn up and vote out their commie democrat leaders and STOP voting in new ones. Take the positive approach rather than the negative. Let the drive for positive change be what gets you up in the morning, rather than the desire to see the leftist anarchists get bitch slapped. :D

[IHaveRespawned]

Here is the issue: illegal immigrants who get to vote and tourism births. Women from China have been known to fly to the US, give birth, take their child back to China where they are raised, then that child can vote in US elections upon turning 18. Then you also have fraudulent mail-in ballots to compound to that.

[slatyb]

The "patriotic" faith-driven people? The people who don't care about the Constitution? That's not patriotism.

[Cidknee]

You're not speaking of the right. You THInK you are but you are NOT!

[slatyb]

@Cidknee the people who think the US should be a Christian nation? The people think due process doesn't apply to resident aliens?

[IHaveRespawned]

This is the USA! Of course you can practice any religion you desire!

The problem occurs when agitators can storm into churches and invoke chaos while leftist leaders, prosecutors, and judges turn a blind eye. There is a hostile bias towards Christians, Jews, and white conservative men right now. There is most certainly a two-tiered justice system. The left will throw an elderly woman in prison for praying outside of an abortion clinic without hesitation, spy on Christians who make Bible purchases, and open investigations into parents who fight back against transgender ideologies in school, yet these same leftist politicians will turn a blind eye when a church is infiltrated by agitators.

You have leftist riotors going nuts and communities that are being socially engineered.

You have the left who wants open borders and forced diversification of every facet, from urban areas to more rural, smaller communities.

Look what is going on in the UK where the PM wants the Rural countryside to be less "white". You don't think leftist politicians in the US are trying to do the same? Think again!

[Cidknee]

The country was STARTED by a CHRISTIAN group. And NO, we'll NOT relinquish our hold upon her!!

[slatyb]

@Cidknee It was not. The Christo-fascists keep repeating this but the people who wrote the founding documents were not Christian. God is not mentioned in the Constitution at all, and only metaphorically in the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. Later we have John Adams' letter stating plainly that the United States is not a Christian nation. The authors of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were almost all deists, believing in a God but not a personal God, not a God that controls human affairs. All their writing confirms this.

[IHaveRespawned]

@Cidknee Exactly! Our nation was founded with a strong Christian background and foundation.

[Cidknee]

Funny how people try to rewrite history! 😅 knee slapper!

[IHaveRespawned]

@slatyb Christianity is a relationship with Christ. That is a CHOICE and cannot be forced anyways. When it pertains to government, we are guaranteed freedom of religion in the constitution where the government cannot establish an official religion. It does not mean our heritage of this nation was not aligned with Christianity. It does not mean that biblical texts cannot be shared with others. But in terms of accepting Christ, that is a personal decision.

[slatyb]

@Cidknee Yes, the "Christian Nation" people are well-known for this. That's why they have no historians agreeing with them, and don't even want to hear the real history of the country. They would rather cling to their myth that it was founded as a Christian nation when plain statements from the founders contradict them.

[slatyb]

Really? Most Europeans were Christian, and had suffered from centuries of war over religion. The authors of the founding documents specifically want to prevent that from occurring here.

[slatyb]

Which documents support this assertion?

[IHaveRespawned]

I will gather data. I can speak for certain about the south where I was born and raised. There is a church on just about every street. This area is heavily protestant Christian.

[IHaveRespawned]

"Most, if not all, of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence identified as Christians, with many having Protestant backgrounds."

Remember, Protestant Christians split from the Catholic Church, but both Catholicism and Protestantism are part of the Christian faith. Then, you have denominations that branch off from Protestantism, such as Baptist, Methodist, and Presbyterian.

The south is modern times is referred to as the "Bible Belt".

19th Century:

"The Civil War era saw major denominations, particularly Methodists and Baptists, split along North-South lines over the issue of slavery, with Southern churches often defending it."

Christianity has been a major influence on the US culture and the evolution of this nation for centuries.

[Cidknee]

Well, I've not studied their faith but I do know that GW was Christian, and when they DO mention God they are speaking of the God of Israel, and of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

[slatyb]

I never said it wasn't. But it wasn't in the minds of the founders to create a Christian nation. They saw what happened in Europe where religion was enforced by the governments.

[IHaveRespawned]

True, we are a Christian nation not in the way of enforced adherence to the Christian faith or an established religion, but we are a Christian nation considering our heritage, culture, and the influence of Christianity on our laws and customs for centuries.

People practicing different faiths are not the issue. The issue is socially engineering our communities, especially our predominantly white and Christian communities, to transform the cultures of the areas that have been existing there for generations. Like the government facilitating diversity as an example because they don't want an area to be "too white". I refuse to allow my hometown to become the new Dearborn, Michigan without at least putting up a fight.

[slatyb]

I never claimed the US wasn't majority Christian, although like all developed nations it is growing ever more secular. You claimed that the US was founded as a Christian nation. It was not. The authors of the founding documents deliberately left religion out, then made their intention clear with the adoption of the First Amendment.

[IHaveRespawned]

Again, the issue is not secularism as much as it is social engineering communities and disrespecting heritage that has been prominent since the nation's founding over 250 years ago. Leftists storming into a church worship service to disrupt a congregation is abhorrent. To intentionally transform a community because it is "too white" or "too Christian" is unacceptable. We are a Christian nation in the fact Christianity has shaped our culture, laws, institutions, and ways of life for many generations. In terms of an official established religion or enforced religious practices, no, that would be unconstitutional.

[slatyb]

Can you provide a link to people disrupting a church service, except of course for the white men who have committed mass murders in synagogues and black churches?

[Cidknee]

You're a real specimen aren't you salty? Or have you been off planet for the last few weeks.

[Friendlybro79]

Sure if you are on the front lines willing to sacrifice yourself because you think war is the solution instead of just working together peacefully.

[Friendlybro79]

And seriously grow up. You're being sick if your exaggerated propaganda that you consume has convinced you civil war is the answer. Welcome to being an American and an adult. You don't like everyone... wahhhh... You are sick of white people getting picked on (I'm white and don't feel this at all)! wahhhhhh... This is so upsetting to me we must go to war and kill each other? You need thicker skin and learn how to relax. No one is doing anything to you.

[IHaveRespawned]

You don't believe all this is strategically facilitated? The leftist PM in the UK wants to make the rural countryside "less white". You don't believe leftist politicians in the US want to do the same? Think again!

Foreign nationals from broken nations flooded our country during the Xiden regime. Many of these people from broken nations are not accustomed to westernized societies, in fact, to them, getting handouts in the US is better than what they had back home. Their standard of living is much lower than ours. Of course, if you saturate our population with people who have had a lower standard of living, you in turn create a lower standard of living.

Think of a white, upper-middle-class family. The children have likely been raised to understand they need to be financially stable before having a child. Those who have grown up in the ghettos are used to popping out kids with the expectation they can collect welfare benefits.

Bad actors know this, so you know what they do? They crash the job market and economy, making white couples reconsider having children while the ghetto folk and foreign nationals pop out babies

[Friendlybro79]

I believe you sound ridiculous and you're feeding into propaganda and now you're talking about something completely different and I am unsure of what the hell you're talking about. Are we still talking about your stupid and valueless opinion on thinking civil war is the answer? Just get it over with you said? I asked you as long as your willing to be on the front lines. Are you? And by the way we don't need a civil war. Grow up and live your life nothing you're talking about is really affecting your life.

[Friendlybro79]

I'm sorry I'm not being extremely polite but sometimes when people say radical things like civil war I believe you need to be talked to based on how you sound. You sound ridiculous and need to snap the hell out of it. You're either radical thinking or a troll.

[Chazmatazz269]

You are sick in the head if you’re in favor of war. Seek professional help.

[exitseven]

yesh, lets do it.

[zagor]

So you see tolerance as a one-way street...

[IHaveRespawned]

I drove past the high school in Oak Ridge today en route to Home Depot. Everything and everyone seems unrecognizable. You have to realize East Tennessee has been predominantly-white and southern-like my entire life. All these areas have become much darker in such a short span of time. The Muslims are pouring in here, which has become obvious over the past 5 years. It is changing too fast as if this is all manufactured and facilitated.

[IHaveRespawned]

We need an ICE raid in Knoxville and Oak Ridge BADLY!

[CuriousMufuxka]

No! Why do so many want war?

[IHaveRespawned]

Because we are beyond sick and tired of the bullshit

[CuriousMufuxka]

We? Lol I doubt you speak for the masses, nor understand the actual implications of actual war.

[Chazmatazz269]

Because they’re dumb as f*ck and have never experienced real violence, let alone war.

[IHaveRespawned]

I feel we are being pushed into it anyways. Why not just get it over with? It is like knowing you are getting a shot as a kid. There is so much time of anticipation before it actually is done and over.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Yeah, there is nothing serious that can be taken from your reply.

[msc545]

Nobody once a war and you shouldn't either.

[Anonymous]

Might as well

[Cidknee]

Winner take all!