Americans, do you know your Terrorism Prevention official is 22?

[goaded]

"One year out of college and with no apparent national security expertise, Thomas Fugate is the Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing the government’s main hub for combating violent extremism."

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention

Seriously, could you make this up?

[NathanDavis]

and... did you know that the FBI division in charge of counterintelligence, and specifically tasked with the monitoring and tracking of Iranian terrorists threats was dismantled... just says before the USA intervened on Iran?

[goaded]

Maybe they thought they wouldn't be needing it any more, now Iran is free and happy and its people so, so grateful to the good ol' USA!

[DryGermanGuy]

Was it him? 😂

https://youtu.be/MLIP0ZtoiO4?si=uM35z1vfABDyxR7n

[goaded]

Very much like, it seems.

I really wish I'd seen his picture before I posted the question! Clearly a very serious person.

[DryGermanGuy]

That’s Stephen Miller‘s little brother! 😬😆

[madhatters4]

he's a trump MAGAt sycophant. that's the only qualification you need in the Trump administration

kennedy is a serial cheater, former junkie, conspiracy spouting loon. and somehow he is charge of America's health

[msc545]

Yeah, that's pretty typical of the kind of crap Trump does.

[goaded]

I remember being 22, and I could do some pretty good stuff, but protecting the whole US against terrorism? No way!

[msc545]

He's not protecting anybody except himself.

[Hagar88]

The notion that this single office is responsible for preventing terrorism is not only incorrect, it's ignorant.

[goaded]

So why are you assuming anyone thinks that? He's the Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing the government’s main hub for combating violent extremism. He's the boss of a department for combating violent extremism. Do you think he's a sensible choice?

[Hagar88]

Yes.

[goaded]

I hope you have a 22 year old boss one day.

[Hagar88]

Are you saying college is not important?

[goaded]

You are saying relevant experience isn't.

[Kaneki05]

A smart man once said "He who has the youth, has the future" and I agree so I see no problem with this.

[goaded]

In the future he might have the knowledge and experience to run a government department, right now he doesn't.

[Kaneki05]

Argumentum Ad Aetatem

[goaded]

Would you get in a commercial airplane where the pilot had never done anything but play flight simulator? They'd never been a co-pilot? Never even seen the inside of a cockpit before?

Would you trust a company that would hire someone like that?

[Kaneki05]

I would trust a 22 pilot.
It's sad you try to use such false arguments. Like pretending a 22 pilot would have no experience and not even know what inside a cockpit looks like. In fact the RAF requires you to be under 24 to be so, and you can apply at 17 but do carry on.

[goaded]

They would be illegal. To even take the test, Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) ATP practical test has to have had 1,500 hours of experience in aircraft, including 250 hours as a pilot-in-command (PIC), and be at least age 23.

This particular person has no experience at all. "No threat prevention experience is listed in his employment history."

You can keep trying to make out I'm making this purely about age, but his predecessor started getting relevant experience before this one was born.

[Kaneki05]

What a bunch of lies, look up what age can you be raf requirements pilot and tell me what it says lmao.
You really think there is no pilot who's 22?

Oh look even AI has done better homework than you...
'Yes, you can absolutely become a pilot at 22, as it is an ideal age to begin training for both military (e. g., RAF) and commercial careers. You can begin training for a Private Pilot License (people) at 17 and, in the US, meet requirements for a Commercial Certificate (CPL) by age 21-23.'

[goaded]

I am NOT lying, you ass. And your AI says "begin training"...

I said: "Would you get in a commercial airplane where the pilot..." RAF is not "commercial".

I was thinking about your average scheduled flight between two cities, a 737 or something, not paying someone to take you up in a glider or Cessna.

Either way, unless you're tired of life, you wouldn't go up in an aircraft with them if it was their first time flying. Leave that to the instructors.

This individual has no experience at all. "No threat prevention experience is listed in his employment history."

You can keep trying to make out I'm making this purely about age, but his predecessor started getting relevant experience before this one was born.

[Kaneki05]

Still lying are we?

'Obtaining a Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL) between the ages of 21 and 23 is a standard, achievable goal for aspiring pilots, allowing them to enter the aviation industry right at the beginning of their professional careers. In the UK and most ICAO regions, the minimum age to hold a CPL is 18, but the requirements for commercial, multi-crew, or airline positions often align with reaching age 21.
Pilot Careers Live
Pilot Careers Live
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Key Requirements & Timeline
Minimum Age: 18 for CPL issuance.
Experience Required: 150–200 hours of total flight time depending on whether the course is integrated or modular.
Medical: Valid UK CAA Class 1 Medical Certificate.
Theoretical Exams: Pass 13 UK CAA/EASA ATPL/CPL theoretical knowledge exams.
Training Duration: Typically takes 18–24 months, allowing someone starting at 19-20 to finish by 21-22.'

Plus no one said it had to be commercial, just that I would trust a pilot at 22 and ya wanna know what an Raf pilot is? A pilot?
But even then you are wrong.
This is truly sad.

Nvm how we can start talking about how you can drive at 18 or even 16 and guess what I would trust to get in a car with someone at such age driving ya know?
But I am sure you'll somehow think nobody knows how to do that either lmao

[goaded]

No, but you are. I'll ignore that, because more importantly, you're also determined to ignore the important fact that whatever age pilots are they require EXPERIENCE, which this guy does not have.

None. At. All.

[Kaneki05]

Maybe use google once in a while and you'll find out my replies aren't wrong. I knew it was bs without even searching and to no surprise it turned out I was right.
Yup has no experience according to you because you think he's too young to have any. Which I repeat Argumentum Ad Aetatem because he simply isn't.

[goaded]

Cute. You're attacking my analogy, while ignoring my central point which anyone can see: whatever age pilots are they require EXPERIENCE, which this guy does not have. Before you bullshit us again, what RELEVANT experience does Thomas Fugate have to run a federal government department trusted with Terrorism Prevention?

[Kaneki05]

You make a analogy then think why did he defeat my analogy what kind of bullshit is that?
That's hilarious. It's in fact you who ignored it and pivoted but okay lol

And how would I know? How would you? Do you have inside knowledge to everything about him in homeland security?
Because honestly I don't. But since I don't, I would never proclaim he has no experience as I have no idea what that would actually mean for such title.
Here's better question do you think he was hired just cause he randomly showed up one day? I doubt that, they'll have a reason for why they hired him that we simply aren't allowed to know for security reasons. At least that's the most likely option that happened.

[goaded]

Still waiting for you to tell me what RELEVANT experience does Thomas Fugate have to run a federal government department trusted with Terrorism Prevention?

I know he doesn't, because there's zero evidence that he has relevant experience, you're just trolling.

He was hired because he worked to get Trump elected and no other reason. Unless you can prove otherwise.

[Kaneki05]

Say's you? How about you prove he was only hired for that reason?
We know you can't but you pretend to know the reason stemming from your bias.

[Kaneki05]

See me as a none bias simply responses with I don't know and what the likely possibility was, you claim to know without actually having proof.

[goaded]

How about you answer one single question: what RELEVANT experience does Thomas Fugate have to run a federal government department trusted with Terrorism Prevention?

" See me as a none bias simply responses with I don't know and what the likely possibility was, you claim to know without actually having proof. " Are you a defective LLM? That's nothing a sane person would post.

[Kaneki05]

Funny how I've already answered and you ignore. And retort to call me names, ignoring my point. And somehow thinking that wasn't a sane post? Asking you for proof yet you have none but refuse to admit we don't know. While I admit we don't know.
Really shows who has a need to be right all the time and have no proof while proclaiming to be right.

[goaded]

Really? I must have missed it. Please repeat what RELEVANT experience does Thomas Fugate have to run a federal government department trusted with Terrorism Prevention?

[Kaneki05]

I literally just answered it again, and you ignored yet again. Dismissing my point and repeating the same. Read again or don't, I don't care. I've made my point and it seems I was right since you ignore it.

[goaded]

I think you're lying.

What RELEVANT experience does Thomas Fugate have to run a federal government department trusted with Terrorism Prevention?

[goaded]

I just read back through this conversation, you never once addressed what relevant experience Thomas Fugate has to run a federal government department trusted with Terrorism Prevention.

[Kaneki05]

I said I don't know multiple times, and made that the point but you ignored the point whether it's your ability to read or you purposefully ignoring...
You do have a track record of this at this point, leading me to repeat over and over again what I said and you not understanding.

[goaded]

But you do know. It's none.

[realbiggrin]

Beats the hell out of the pencil dress and matching lipstick Biden put in charge of nuclear waste disposal.

[Still-alive]

Yeah they’re just handing jobs like that out to anyone

[exitseven]

He has to work for free so what do you expect. He is basicaly an unpaid intern.

[goaded]

What are you talking about? He's a paid director of a federal department with an $18m budget.

People are calling him an intern because that's the kind of position he should be in, not in charge of 20 people (down from 80, thanks to Trump).

His predecessor "worked in terrorism studies and counterterrorism fields for more than 15 years, including time at the Combating Terrorism Center as Director of Practitioner Education and as Director of the University of Maryland’s National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism". https://www.distractify.com/p/thomas-fugate-salary

15 years ago, Trump's man was 7 years old.

[exitseven]

democrats have stopped funding the DHS so he is not getting paid.

[goaded]

Temporarily. The 60 people who used to work there are not so lucky.

[exitseven]

Everyone says we need to cut spending. Then when President Trump actually does something about it is a crime.

[goaded]

It was shameful (and 100% Project 2025, which ISTR you claimed had nothing to do with Trump) the way that was handled. Many of the firings were unlawful, some were positively against the national interest (the people looking after the nuclear stockpile).

[OneViewpoint]

Hey, what can go wrong?

[Shiprex]

It's a circus of death and perversion.