Why do white nationalists sometimes date non whites?

[Snowman84]

I work with a number of men who espouse white nationalism, accelerationism, anti-immigration, anti-gay/trans and hold beliefs about great replacement. Yet these individuals have wives or girlfriends from Southeast Asia. I have a hard time understanding why they feel that’s okay given their beliefs.

[CalmUntilAbused]

It might come as a surprise to You, but white people are not a nation. You can be white, be a nationalist (for Your respective nation) and still marry an Asian woman. Honestly, it might be Your only option, since most Western women are crazy, bloodthirsty feminists who want You dead (even if You are not white or a nationalist, they just want to #KillAllMen). I, as a Pole, am very much a nationalist, but I would still accept the replacement of most Polish women, who are crazy, hateful, bloodthirsty feminists who want me dead for being a man with Asian women who do not hold the above takes. Nationality is an idea. A Black person could become Polish if they knew the history of Poland and followed our values. In fact, there are a few Black Poles who are actually great friends with the most hardcore Polish nationalists. Why would Asian women be any different?

Though to be honest, I guess it is a bit of double think. I am a nationalist, but also an oikophobe regarding women. The answer to that one is that I got infected with oikophobia by those very women, who mostly consider Polish men inferior to just about any kind of "exotic" men.

[permanentem]

I don't see how anything you mentioned is White nationalist. Working backwards, great-replacement theory is about replacing a native culture. So in the USA, that would be the patriotic Constitution loving, rule of law following, capitalist, Judeo-Christian believing citizen population. That has nothing to do with race. Being anti-gay/trans aligns with basic Judeo-Christian morality. So again nothing to do with race. If they were anti-immigration, that would mean they would be opposed to Whites immigrating to America, thus not White nationalist. In reality they are likely anti-illegal immigration which goes back to respect for the rule of law and the Constitution and Judeo-Christian morality with a basic understanding of economics that capitalists tend to have, and typical concern for security. I don't see why you have to be a White nationalist to oppose the current system. Don't all your BLM, pro-Palestine, and ANTIFA pals oppose the current system? By your standard you and all of them are White nationalists. I guess that's why you think everyone around you is a White nationalist, because you are a White nationalist and are projecting.

[permanentem]

But you probably think this Constitution loving, patriotic American citizen who loves God and Country is a White nationalist...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rjv75hqpx8Y

[KimmySchmit]

You mean why do white catholics date non white catholics?

You realise the majority of Hispanics and latinos are catholics.

[OlderAndWiser]

"I have a hard time understanding" doesn't mean that they are being intellectually inconsistent. It means that you don't understand the real nature of their beliefs.

[Shrimpenjoyer]

And what is that

[OlderAndWiser]

@shrimpenjoyerenjoyer Labelling someone as a white nationalist is a prejudicial, judgmental, arrogant thing to do. Is understanding their beliefs really your goal, or are you just wanting to explain how your beliefs are superior?

[Shrimpenjoyer]

The people he is describing are truly white nationalists though

[OlderAndWiser]

@Shrimpenjoyer Who is he describing and how do you know them?

[Master_Debator]

Are you forgetting one of Hitler's allies was Japan. I can tell your head is filled with that propaghanda of the blue eyes and blonde hair uberminch shit even though Hitler himself didn't look the part and neither do most of the mutt looking German people.

Read his book if you really want to understand. Master races build empires while slave races... feed off them like lice. Somalian hospital scams and leering centers comes to mind... no? Well it does for me. Meanwhile some Korean comes over here and does business in a honest way. Not on wellfare. You see what I'm saying?

[lightbulb27]

I've seen people "despise" another race in one breath and turn around and love them in the next. It's not really the race but individual and in essence, the behavior projected.

It's all sales... can you sell yourself to someone that is predisposed to dislike.

[Berethor]

In World War 2 Nazi Germany has allied with the Empire of Japan, East Esias are the closest Race to Whites, also White Nationalists hate Feminist, and East Esias are Traditional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers

[DonaldDarko]

Most of them are full of shit. White nationalism makes sense in the current climate but they don't take it seriously. They want what other races have, racial unity, pride, community and so on. But they go right to Nazism because it's edgy and cool to them. They want what the Black Panthers had but it's mostly a typical gen z larp

[KostasKouvalis]

Because, when a non-White woman chooses US over her own race, it's a massive ego boost for us and reinforces our belief that we are in fact the superior race. I tell you, there's nothing hotter than a brown girl who likes White men more then her own race.

[Jackblue]

It is true and also many of the women the women who support white nationalism have dated or at least had a one night stand with black guys. The truth is, it is forbidden fruit. Some radical black guys like Eldridge Cleaver and Seretse Khama in turn desired white women.

[Avicenna]

LOL, what exactly is a "white nationalist"? Are there, for example, "black nationalists"? Anyway, it seems like you assume that there is some monolithic caricature they have to constantly fit.

[Pohjolan]

They have read IQ and the wealth of nations.

Basically they believe that due to the relatively high IQ of Asians like Japanese its fine to do race mixing with those.

Also they are statistically less likely to rely on social welfare plus they consider them prettier than say black women.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Maybe you don't know them as well as you think you do

[Snowman84]

So when the day “white” are being replaced with poop colour people how should I interpret that?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Give it some thought. Or maybe just ask them. Or read a little about history and the various case studies about what happens when cultures mix. Because almost exactly the same thing happens every single time.

And then maybe spend some more time thinking about the implications of why you're different from them. And then consider that you might be doing the same thing to them that they're doing to the "poop" people you're mentioning.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

And after all that, the answer to your question should just feel intuitive

[Snowman84]

Why don’t you tell me what you think happens when people of different ethnicities mix?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

It usually takes 2-4 generations for 1 new culture to assimilate. This is an entire field of study. You should familerize yourself with the absolute basics before acting like you're better than anyone

[Telekinetic-Potato]

And actually now that I think about it. I'm pretty sure that number is for America specifically. Which is known for fast assimilation. So on average probably a lot longer.

[Snowman84]

Interesting 🤨 how would you describe someone who’s assimilated?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Good question. But I'm going to have to answer carefully here because you said someone. Not a culture. There's a big difference between describing an individual and an a group of people sharing a culture.

In sociology assimilation is measured by language shift across generations. A first generation may speak their native tong but much of the national dominant one. They'll also study hoe the etymology of words during this period develops as the further generations learn the national language.

They'll look at social integration. Does the group live in its own part of town? Do they have their own towns? Do they participate in the same education as the nationals. Intermarriage is another huge one. And by the way, this can be as simple as the country in the mountains took over the country by the sea, now these cultures with different languages are marrying eachother. Did that happen immediately or did it take 100 years?

Economic interplay is another big one. For example, maybe when Irish people came to America and let's say many of them opened shops that sold soda bread and we can track through documents saved over time how more and more people who weren't Irish were buying soda bread for their stores.

Another thing they look for is signs that the values and perspectives are beginning to effect eachother. Clothing will change, conventional wisdom will change, social norms will change. The new culture will begin to be included in the political system in some capacity.

But honestly there's much more to it. This is a very quick and dirty overview.

[DryGermanGuy]

I saw a few interviews with ex-Neonazis „explaining“ this: According to their highest forms of mental gymnastics, it’s okay to use foreigners for sexual reasons, but you are not allowed to procreate with them. 🤦‍♂️

[OneViewpoint]

Because most White women want nothing to do with the inbred racists. I have no idea why non White women would date one of these damaged personalities.

[exitseven]

White nationalists are not white supremacists. They are white people that love America and want what is best for their country,

[Snakeyes7]

Probably because they aren't actually white nationalists and are just called that as a thought terminating cliche for them or anyone too stupid to see it that way.

[Dargil]

I do not know what a white nationalist is. Can you explain that to me?

[Smegskull]

Maybe they are anti economic migrants, a wife doesn't take your job.

Have you tried asking?
Do you even know if they are white nationalists and not just cultural or civic nationalists?

[jahaims]

It's about values, not race for most of them. They want cultural assimilation.

[blackeagle007]

I don’t know anyone that’s a white nationalist. It boggles the mind someone outside their race would entertain dating the person

[beefcakebradybatson]

Asian women are prized by even racist chaps as demure and beautiful, qualities they believe make these women quasi white women.

[LC75LC71]

Hell if I know. Y'all can't get over color.

[Mike_Hum]

They like that Asian pussy.

[MrFrenchFry]

Because they are not racist. You are racist.

[Snowman84]

So I’m racist for calling out racism?

[MrFrenchFry]

Your racist for calling out racism where it doesn't exist. You are the racist

[Snowman84]

How do you know? you don’t know the individuals I’m referring to.