Why are people still supporting Trump after the Epstein files revelations?

[TadBehaya]

[love_conquers_lust]

This is the problem I have with these rather weak and rather cowardly accusation by association claims. I talk to a lot of people who have much lower moral standards than myself. I judged them and I deemed them immoral. But I still will associate with them under my approved circumstances. I don't really have much choice as I don't want to see them die, but I don't want to be anywhere near their poor habits/choices either.

I don't know what happened with Trump and Epstein specifically. I do know that money talks and many, MANY people will compromise their morals for many, especially those who don't have much while throwing around accusations of others. It would stand to reason to assume those people throw out those accusations because they themselves have been guilty at one time or another for compromising their morals for financial gain.

Ultimately, you can always continue to do the right thing no matter how many times you screw up historically. Just don't expect people to give you the benefit of the doubt if you decide to turn over a new leaf after years of f***ing up. History is the best predictor of the future. I will support good AND bad people doing the RIGHT thing.

[Subtle_Luminescence]

There are far bigger concerns that put Trump in a despicable position, starting a war is one of them.

[SofaKingsMart]

Admitting that Trump is a rotten POS is admitting they were conned by a con artist. They took the Trump bio, which was created by Mark Burnett for his Reality TV show, and believed every word.
Essentially, they got their reality from a reality TV show. That alone should be cause for embarrassment.
There were many of us who were shocked, shocked I tell you, when someone actually gave that joker a TV show, never mind the presidency.
Man oh man did I underestimate the stupidity of the voting public.

[Kelley1]

Whatever happened with Epstein and a couple dozen people is insignificant compared to making war and the economy.

[TadBehaya]

true!

[goaded]

So was Al Capone's tax evasion.

[OlderAndWiser]

Why did people support Trump ten years ago after the Russia files revelation?

[Zack-Bann]

Because it’s nothing we didn’t already know


Anyone who’s familiar with Trump even prior to his entry into politics, knows that he’s a frivolous billionaire who’s done all kinds of acts like that and frequented people who’ve done worse


The Epstein files didn’t disclose any hard evidence that he specifically took part in the nasty things Epstein did
Only that he was a friend and was invited to the island itself along with all the other celebrities


The Trump haters obviously want to grasp at every small circumstantial evidence to scream out “look Trump is a monster and shouldn’t be president!”
It’s children and futile.


Because the people who voted for Trump did so knowing full well he wasn’t mother Teresa
And unless a court of law can convict him of actual crimes liked to Epstein, the whole thing is inconsequential

[goaded]

A court of law did convict him of actual crimes. They didn't care about that, either.

[Zack-Bann]

Yeah 34 counts of falsifying business records to the first degree.
Which is a fancy way of saying he hooked up with an escort 34 times and paid her while writing it off as lawyer fee

Let’s not pretend this even remotely as heinous as the average white collar crime that robs people of their money and future.

And he was sentenced to an unconditional discharge which means no fine or jail time just a conviction on his record (which is being appealed)

He is in no way a saint and probably did horrible things he wasn’t caught for
But it’s a pathetic finger pointing that many people do when they talk about how he’s such a massive convicted felon over some hooker bill he actually paid

And it goes back to my original point: it’s nothing we didn’t already know about the man.

He’s been a public figure for decades and first took office 10 years ago.
And to this day people will pretend to be outraged about the things he says and does as if it’s this new and shocking thing.

But all he’s doing is following his character’s script

[goaded]

He wasn't paying for sex, he was paying to stop a story coming out.

[Zack-Bann]

That’s an even smaller crime.
“Paying to stop a story” hardly running a sweat shop with child labor

My whole point is: Trump’s opposition will always overblown every little thing he says and does as though everyone else is on the up and up and he’s the only crook in town

He’s no saint but he’s a devil amongst devils and they’re all pining for power
No one is hollies than thou

[goaded]

Do you think a Democrat would be elected if they'd been convicted of any crime?

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I haven't seen anything that proves anything. Like there's some pretty strong evidence about certain people. And nothing I've seen that "incriminates" trump even holds a candle to the rest of the files.

And the fact everyone is trying to focus on only him. It just makes the whole thing uncredible. All the girls who actually come forward have nothing to say about Trump and there was one transcript I read from a girl who was giving some pretty specific testamony about other stuff, she insinuated that Trump spoke to her in off to the side and was kind unlike the other people she mentioned. I got the impression he helped motivate her to escape.

So it's like what evidence is there one way or the other? Maybe we could make some progress if we grilled people who we do have more concrete evidence on. Like Bill gates or some of the people funding the research he was representing.

[goaded]

How about the disappearance of a DEA investigation into Epstein and 14 others when Trump first came to power?

[Razp_Sorbet]

But he was still involved in some way...

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@Razp_Sorbet so was everyone... I mean define "involved" I'm involved in my towns water treatment because I pay taxes and take showers with tap water.

So this guy who worked with all these financial institutions, giving THEM advice. He was funding all kinds of research, doing business with militaries, connecting all sorts of people. If there's one thing we learned about epstein above anything else it's that he was around almost anybody who had any kind of power.

You could name thousands of different people who are "related" to epstein.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@goaded well, can you really blame the guy? He had just been attacked essentially by half the government of the United States. By a corrupted FBI mostly. I mean he's suffered all the things that we've been told could never happen in government in terms of corruption.

I think anyone who cares about a truthful report would want all investigations which started before he was elected to be halted.

The leverage these documents give him in negotiations is devistating. He could probably ruin all the most important people in the world right now with almost no proof.

[goaded]

You mean Trump? What excuse do you think he had for stopping an investigation into a pedophile running drugs, human trafficking and money laundering? You think he was involved? So do I.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@goaded I just gave it to you... Ya silly goose

[goaded]

No, you just bullshitted and pretended that valid investigations into Trump that turned up massive amounts of evidence of wrongdoing and testimony from Trump supporters that he'd been breaking the law are anything like Trump-caused bogus "investigations" into political opponents that get laughed out of grand juries over and over again.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@goaded well you just mulled over the problem. You think the investigations are valid. He and half the country were worried it wasn't. So if you can't agree on the baseline reality of the situation. There's really no point in talking about it.

It's kinda that simple. Multiple other investigations were called into question and at least one was literally proven to be Russian propaganda against him.

[goaded]

If you were so sure Trump would have been exonerated, why not have a trial?

Be serious, if he hadn't had support from Cannon and SCOTUS to delay things, he'd have been toast.

"one of the strengths of our case and why we felt we had such strong proof is all witnesses were not going to be political enemies of the President. They were going to be political allies.

We had numerous witnesses who would say, "I voted for President Trump. I campaigned for Trump President Trump. I wanted him to win." The Speaker of the House in Arizona. The Speaker of the House in Michigan.

We had an elector in Pennsylvania who is a former Congressman who was going to be an elector for President Trump who said that what they were trying to do was an attempt to overthrow the government and illegal.

Our case was built on, frankly, Republicans who put their allegiance to the country before the party"
judiciary.house.gov/.../...t_Redacted-w-Errata.pdf

[Telekinetic-Potato]

@goaded so you think that the witnesses exonerating a presidential candidate, when his opponents are caught red handed supporting the one who they believe is innocent is suspicious?

And that's not meant to be a gochya, I'm genuinely confused what the problem is. Because it sounds like your brain just latched onto specific key words you're predisposed to disliking.

And by the way, you're damn right he's lucky it was postponed because they needed time to prove how it was all rigged. Which they did.

[goaded]

I think that Trump supporters will say anything. I think that there's a reason the Epstein files are so heavily redacted. I think there's a reason Judge Cannon is hiding the evidence that would have been presented at trial against Trump. I think that reason is that they're corrupt and supporting corruption.

I also note that you just insinuated something, rather than simply explaining what you're talking about. Something that's an intentional waste of my time.

[loveslongnails]

Why? Because they're in a cult. They will deny any part of any accusation against the cult leader no matter how many come forward. It's part of identity politics. If they believe any part of his guilt for raping little girls 30 years ago, they'd have to accept they've been idolizing a terrible man. If they did that, they're admitting they are fools and wondering "how could we have been so blind"? So the answer is, double down that every accuser is lying and the entire files are all just a Democrat plot.

In other words, it's because they're stupid, horrible people.

[DryGermanGuy]

It's a personality cult for the rubes at this point. Trump could trumpsplain the dumbest, most contradictory nonsense to them and they would still clap like seals and yell "Obamina!"

[Curmudgeon]

Because, if anything, what has been uncovered *exonerates* Trump. He had the good sense to distance himself once Epstein's nature became apparent. Meanwhile, the Clintons - both of them - are revealed to have been neck deep in Epstein's depravity.

[goaded]

Not at all true.

[Bricealan]

@tadbehaya what revelations? I'm sure that you read 'somewhere' that he had Epstein' procure some 12-year-old- girls and boys for his sexual pleasure, right? Oh sure, I read here on GAG that "Trump was a child rapist" and even more idiocy than that! I'm sure you know something that most others know nothing about.

[Pohjolan]

@Bricealan
How would you know that the witnesses would be lying about Trump only?

[katiesmuff]

Nobody ever said all Americans have a brain! Some sacrificed a brain for hate and racism and find nothing wrong with wealthy power hungry men raping and molesting young girls 12 to 14 years old.

[David318578]

Being named in the files is different then being a part of the pedohile parties.

Epstein had a lot of interactions with rich powerful people that had nothing to do with the evil things he was doing on that island.

[MrChinaski]

Err... convicted criminal elected regardless, has since defrauded billions of dollars, engaged in extrajudicial executions and is currently bombing people because he had the idea while he was shaving one morning that it might raise his approval ratings...

... and you think files that show nothing more nor less than that he had far more contact with a dead sex offender than he previously disclosed?

Try and keep your eye on the ball.

[goaded]

There are a thousand balls, that's what they rely on. We should keep our eyes on all of them.

"Flood the zone with shit", I believe is the plan.

[permanentem]

Why wouldn't people support Trump? The only thing in the Epstein files about Trump is him reporting Epstein and assisting Epstein victims.

[TadBehaya]

lmaoo right

[permanentem]

If you had evidence to the contrary it would be easy enough to link an official government document. There is a document viewer for the Epstein files online. Instead you guys just make AI garbage and spread rumors that are fake and gay.

[permanentem]

It shows how dumb you guys are, because those documents are public domain now.

[Pohjolan]

You do realise that even the published files contain victim testimonies of Trump being a rapist?
Imagine how bad the censored stuff is.

[permanentem]

@Pohjolan Again, all you'd have to do is post a link to the document viewer on the online government site where the files where published, but again you haven't. Rather than source you claims it's just "trust me bro" and you're not a trustworthy person so nobody is going to trust you. If you make a claim, back it up with evidence. Stop being a fake and gay retard.

[permanentem]

@Pohjolan You notice now you left-wing retards just keep parroting the same propaganda talking points but never have evidence. Bunch of faggots.

[KostasKouvalis]

Because they still see the good things he's doing. Pretty much eveyone has done something bad, but it's surprising, because usually in the U. S. if you do one bad thing, that's all Americans remember you for. Look at Cesar Chavez.
With Trump supporters however, it seems they don't care, or if they do they don't show it. I think they still support him just to drive the Left mad and they're sick of PC and cancel culture, and Democrats getting away with THEIR crimes.

[genericname85]

every high trier politician has their corpses in their cellars. it is what it is. the quesiton is not "what immoral things did he do in the past". the question is: "is this candidate better for my intrest than the other". and apparently for the majority of people a sex offender who likely did some inappropriate things with minors as well is still better than Kamala Harris.

[Anonymous]

Same reason people still supported Biden knowing he creeply showered with his daughter and had sexual assault accusations against him, they don't care, believe it's fake new or think it's OK since the other side it just as guilty. That right, Democrats are just as involved with Epstein as Trump and republicans are, that's why they never used the Epstein files against Trump, it would mean exposing them selves.

[strateguy632]

Mainly because we lack cancel culture so even if he would be guilty of certain crimes- trump is innocent -the crimes would not show he was a bad leader. Also Epstein files have ZERO 0 bad things about Trump.

[exitseven]

So far there has been no revelations about President Trump.

[Pohjolan]

So him raping children was old news?

[exitseven]

@Pohjolan there is nothing that has been confirmed about him doing anything like that.

[msc545]

Because people simply refuse to believe that Trump actually did the things that he actually did

[TadBehaya]

the amount of denial or willful ignorance.. whatever you call it is alarming among these trumptards

[beefcakebradybatson]

They're Trump's b***he's, as he's Netanyahu's and Putin's b***h!!!

[TadBehaya]

i can see trump being netanyahu's bitch but putin? how?

[beefcakebradybatson]

Putin's got who knows what on Trump, which is why Senile Pr*ck lifted sanctions on PUKEtin !!!

[AviatorTom]

There is nothing bad about Trump in the Epstein files, other than his name appears many times. No woman in the files has said Trump did anything wrong, and several have said that he didn't do anything wrong.

[Jersey2]

You are right. If there was anything, Biden would have released it during his term, or whomever was running the autopen.

I doubled checked with AI. I used Grok. He is the short version:

Crucially, the files do not implicate Trump in Epstein’s sex trafficking or abuse of minors. No primary Epstein victims (including those who testified in the Maxwell case) accused him of sexual misconduct or participation in the crimes. Virginia Giuffre—the most prominent plaintiff and victim—explicitly stated under oath that Trump “didn’t partake in sex with any of us” and that she never saw him engage in illegal activity with underage girls.

[Screenwriter]

There are so many files, thousands of pages, and they're SO redacted, I'm unsure if a whole lot of salient facts can be gleaned from them. I don't have time to read them, do you?

[Cyfris]

What revelations? I haven't followed up on them.

[Grond21]

I might have missed something. What was revealed that I haven't seen?

[TadBehaya]

www.msn.com/.../ar-AA1SeIiB

[Grond21]

Thank you. I did see that, but I saw that those were all adult models.

nypost.com/.../

[Anonymous]

I support Trump in regards to his good policies, and do not support him regarding his bad policies. The Epstein Files mean absolutely nothing to me. But I will never forget the wonderful feeling I had for Trump during the 1st few months of 2025. After that, things just seemed to get worse and worse

[Anonymous]

I have never supported Donald Trump even in his first time.

[Opinion Owner]

First term as president

[Opinion Owner]

Even before I have ever heard of Jeffrey Episten. I never liked Trump.

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t support crime but to be honest I am getting sick of hearing about Jeffrey Epstein all the time. I swear I have been hearing about this man like more than once per week for over a year now.

[emeraldsaphire]

Because they have attached there ego to him. So they don't look into it.

[MikeInHawaii]

When discussing politics with my brother, my question was “Which of these idiots will do survivable damage to the country?” I’m not sure it was either one.

[TonyMetal___86]

Because he has nothing to do with it and didn't commit anything wrong!

[supercutebutt]

MAGA folks are like Trump. They enjoy the touch of a child.

[Jerre]

The Epstein files revealed nothing bad about Trump

[supercutebutt]

A 13yo bit Trump's penis during a "Good girl lesson."

Google it.

[Jerre]

@supercutebutt don’t believe everything you read

[Agape93]

Because they're pro pedophiles

[Anonymous]

They support him no matter what terrible things he's done or caused. They still supported him after January 6. So while it's unfortunate, I'm not surprised that he still has support after the Epstein Files.

[Shiprex]

They are a cult and can't accept being wrong.

[Anonymous]

even if people stopped supporting Trump, people aren't going to start supporting the woke lunatics who are trying destroy them

[Snakeyes7]

Because the files didn't have any damning evidence against him.

[Mike_Hum]

Do you believe that everything in the Epstein files is true?

[8ropinit]

There are no revelations. Only unverified tips. If there was anything, I'm sure the left wouldn't shut up about it.

[Razp_Sorbet]

🧠 🚿 basically

[NathanDavis]

the perfect example of wilful ignorance...

[NathanDavis]

and by the way... both sides are ignoring it really

Democratic politicians are also on board with the idea of not really doing anything about but they're all involved as a whole... and we can't lose sight of that

it is just one hand washing the other

[Anonymous]

Not everyone is looking to the government for a daddy figure.

[Dargil]

About the same as the Russia hoax. Moldy old news.

[Pterodon]

Because he isn’t in there

[Bklynbadboy12]

I dont know but thats very disturbing

[slatyb]

Racism

[solalala]

Ignorance

[eagle1951]

good question