Trump has become measurably crazier over the last 10 days. Is he going to drop a nuke on Iran on Tuesday?

[msc545]

[Sevenpointfive]

i really thought he would. i got sherbert for my last meal. then i decided we're better off dead. that was the last time i will ever trust that mans words. i refuse to give him anymore thought.

[msc545]

Disappointing, wasn't it? I was expecting to be vaporized, and instead I'm sitting here eating ice cream and hanging out with my cat.

[Sevenpointfive]

and life goes on... until we're threatened again.

[slatyb]

I would hope that the people who have to carry out such an order would refuse.

[msc545]

As a practical matter they cannot refuse because the consequences of refusal are so dire. I just saw a program where a former army major was talking about his retirement early from the service and his reason for doing so was that he didn't want to be involved in war crimes. That may be the only way out for a lot of these folks. Unfortunately. They wind up having to give up their career to avoid becoming criminals.

[msc545]

Actually, I am re-reading my own comment. I will say that, of course, they can refuse an order. However, if they do, the penalties generally involve spending a lot of time in the military prison and being dishonorably discharged from the service, which in the United States is a very big deal. Very few people are willing to go through these penalties so they can refuse an order.

[slatyb]

The consequences of carrying out such an order would be worse. I could not live with myself if I were in any way responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. "Orders are orders" is not a defense for war crimes.

[msc545]

Trump would not feel a thing.

[slatyb]

No, he wouldn't, but I would if I were in any way involved.

[BonzoInBitburg]

I think that's the only way to achieve regime change and preventing Iran from having nukes. If Trump decides to go with conventional missiles and ground troops he gets the US into another Vietnam/Afghanistan quagmire. Both will result in sky high oil prices and alienate the US from the rest of the world further. The only other option is going full TACO. All the countries that the US wants to sign trade deals with are all negotiating with Iran to buy their oil and secure safe passage through the Strait. It's an embarrassing loss for Trump but it will result in cheaper oil, lower probability of recession and less American military deaths.

[Amy10223]

Do you know which countries are negotiating with Iran for oil? Is TACO an acronym?

[BonzoInBitburg]

@Amy10223 India, China, Russia, Iraq, Pakistan, Thailand, Korea, Japan, Malaysia, Thailand, the Philippines, Spain and France are currently shipping through the Strait. Canada, Australia, Brazil, South Africa and most EU countries are openly negotiating with Iran for oil and safe passage now that sanctions against Iran selling oil have been lifted.

TACO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out

[Amy10223]

Pretty soon, all those countries will no longer, or already are, not looking to the US as a leader in the economic world. They will look to China to be world leader, America #2 or even 3.

[Hiker_011]

I hope not. I try not to follow the news because it's so stressful. It's a bunch of stuff I can't change.

[dfdfdffffdfdf]

he said on his x "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again"

vance also said potus will use something new that haven't used

i also heard potus also have absolute power to use nukes , no one in usa can interfere

[BCRanger10]

*Checks watch, checks news" Well, he didn't.

[Bricealan]

@msc545 Yes. He is going to drop not an atomic bomb, but a Hydrogen Bomb on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and various other 'unbeliever' countries

[msc545]

Well, as it turns out, he didn't do it.

[NathanDavis]

we all knew it was just stupid ass mouth diarrhea...

propaganda, that is

[DryGermanGuy]

No. There are military rules of engagement and the top brass would stop such a lunacy.

[DryGermanGuy]

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...an-US-live-updates.html

[msc545]

Maybe so. I hope you're right.

[Amy10223]

I pray you are right. 🙏🏻

[RandomGirl42]

Is Tuesday a better day of the week than other days for dropping nukes on places?

[goaded]

"Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the fuckin strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. " President Trump.

Also, genocide:

[Amy10223]

@goaded I read that at 1:00 am the night before, he was ranting on (Un) Truth social and cursing the Iranians. Someone needs to sedate him. Put him in the funny farm already.

[msc545]

Well, yeah, the nukes have had a weekend to rest and the Monday to be cleaned up and polished and then drop them on Tuesday.

[msc545]

Well, it's supposed to be Tuesday: nuke day, Wednesday: bridge day (if there's any bridges left), Thursday: I don't know, negotiating for peace and the rebel day, and the next day is picking up what's left of the bodies day. The very next day, apprehending the guy that caused all this problem and putting him on trial.

[lightbulb27]

I'd be crazy trying to do that job. how many pills would you have to take to manage the stress?

[loveslongnails]

Trump needs to be removed by Congress TODAY. He's insane.

[msc545]

Sadly that's not going to happen. I think that all of us are going to be babysitting Trump that as he deteriorates for the next 3 years if we all survived that long given his impulses horrible judgment.

[loveslongnails]

You're sadly correct, but it would be nice to impeach him again in the House, at least. A simple majority vote in the House is all that's required, and that could happen in the mid-terms if they're not rigged. It's the 2/3's majority in the Senate that's the problem, unfortunately. The Dems would need to pick up 10 seats and get both independents (if re-elected) plus 8 Repubs to do the right thing. Hopefully, he'll just drop dead from natural causes soon.

[msc545]

I don't think that there was any way out of it using Congress since the Republicans in one way or another. Have that locked up. The same applies to the midterm elections. If we even have elections I think they will have been rigged by the Republicans and Trump. If they are not rigged then I don't think they will be able to be held at all. One way or the other, these people are going to figure out a way to remain power.

[loveslongnails]

I agree. I get a lot of flack from people when I say they can be rigged because the R's said that for 2020 and it was baseless. But, they were pushing the ballot box stuffing lie, and when that fell apart, they switched to accusing Dominion's machines. That cost Fox $750 million.

Now however, Dominion was bought by a Trump supporting Repub and rebranded "Liberty Vote". They will be used in 27 states, but 5 states have NO paper back-up, NJ, SC, LA and GA. Georgia switched to Direct Recording Electronic (DRE's) so there's no way to verify votes in cases of suspected tampering.

People do NOT realize that anything with a processor and a program can be tampered with well beforehand. In a Presidential election, you're talking about 50 electoral votes. In the mid-terms, you're talking about 40 seats in the House!! FORTY seats!! All you have to do is mess with NJ or GA, or even just the three others.

Even before that happens, the voting law restrictions put in place are designed to favor the R's and create hardships for married women, R's included. But they don't care about losing some Repub women votes. Guess we just have to wait and see.

[loveslongnails]

Delaware is the 5th state.

[andreasderjuengere]

Japan meanwhile makes the nicest motorcycles.
Who knows - Iran may benefit as well from being nuked?

[Tyler_with_Questions]

No. It won’t go nuclear. That is crazy talk.

[888theGreat]

Possible , but would Generals follow that order?

[msc545]

Well, they've agreed to murder people for him, so I don't know why they wouldn't do more of it.

[Anonymous]

Time to Invoke the 25th amendment, his war crimes can't go unpunished.

[Fireburn2025T2]

Better to drop something maybe not a nuke. Dropping a nuke will probably start ww3. Bit he needs to waste that country once and for all. Iranian people don't want peace. They welcome death. That's why it's death to the infidels no matter what

[msc545]

We have another person who thinks he knows what Iran wants and what Iranians want, based on his indoctrination with U. S. propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Good luck Iran

[goaded]

"Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the fuckin strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. " President Trump.

[goaded]

[goaded]

Sorry, those were meant for someone else.

[Pterodon]

Really?

[msc545]

Has he really been getting crazier? Absolutely. Is he going to drop a nuke on Iran? I have no idea. I certainly hope not.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Who knows?