Why do Americans expect European military help to reopen the strait?

[Anonymous]

Why do you guys expect help from Europe to re open it. Trump and Isreal started this war. They didn't seek support from Europe or anything, then Trump sulked like a baby saying they didn't need any help.

So yeah how about you guys learn to fight your own battles and take accountability for your own actions.

[indissoluble]

We didn't expect European help. We knew Iranian Twelver Shia Muslims (IRGC) were a proxy of the City of London used by London bankers to create oil supply shocks through terrorist attacks that take American lives and draw American service members into forever wars (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, etc.)... The point was to highlight that Europe's interests are not aligned with American interests, that they are not our allies. They are actively working against us while leaching off of our economy. This exhibit proves to Americans, that we should not be part of NATO. We should not support Europe. That we should be energy independent not reliant on a globalist (Islamic) system. That we should focus on the Americas (Monroe Doctrine) and keep European imperialism out of our affairs. That we should own Greenland. You Europeans just showed up on cue to play your part and show Americans exactly what you are. Cue up Mate! The trap is sprung now... Too late for you.

[Asker]

Hahahaha. Go and name some terrorists attacks by Iranians on Americans? Europe isn't working against you idiot. And we aren't leaches. We just know wars like these don't benefit anyone, just look at Iraq, how we backed you guys up and it hasn't benefited anyone. And no you won't be getting Greenland, you can't even get iran lol. And your middle eastern allies are starting to realise your protection is shit.

[indissoluble]

You're a Muppet. You actually think America wants Iran. It's you that wants Iran. Europe depends on oil and liquefied natural gas from the Strait of Hormuz and you need America to go get it for you since you are a bunch of impotent soy boys that lack the fortitude to get the job done. America already has oil, we don't need to open the Strait of Hormuz. You need to open it or your economy collapses... You've been out maneuvered.

[indissoluble]

Iran rejected the deal... You know what that means right? Bombs away... Big BOOMS coming. Better get to work before winter. It's going to be a cold one...

http s:// www. youtube. com/watch? v=3edi2Wkr5YI

[indissoluble]

They're calling for a Super El Niño this year which leads to higher chance of a colder spell during the winter months in the UK. Not great for you guys if you have a shortage of heating oil and LNG... Say it with me Super El Niño! Super El Niño! Super El Niño! Brrrrr I'm fine over here in Florida. Warm weather all around. Have fun.

[indissoluble]

I hope you like rain, hail, and snow with energy restrictions...

[indissoluble]

http s://www. reuters. com/business/energy/europe-must-prepare-long-lasting-energy-shock-eu-energy-commissioner-tells-ft-2026-04-03/

[Asker]

That's not true, if it was true then why are the gas prices rising in America? They have gone up since the war, so that means having the strait closed , does effect you guys. And if oil and gas are that important to Europe as you're saying then why not have better connections with them.

[Asker]

It's ok, enjoy your shithole murder state

[indissoluble]

You guys are willing to pay a lot of money to buy our oil. That's why... High prices encourage increased production. Drill baby drill... You guys fix your aircraft carrier yet?

[indissoluble]

Yep I'll enjoy my state

http s://captainkimo. s3. amazonaws. com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/09103321/x001x-Golden-Easter-Service-at-Juno-Beach-Pier-at-Sunrise. jpg

http s://www. youtube. com/watch? v=kELvxnz_O1E

You enjoy getting stabbed in the neck by some Muslim immigrant on the sidewalk.

[indissoluble]

Had America not attacked Iran, domestic oil prices in the US were expected to hit $52 a barrel which would cause the Permian region of Texas to scale back production. Now that the Strait of Hormuz is a mess and the City of London proxy terrorists in Iran are threatening tankers, Lloyd's of London is canceling shipping insurance, and London bankers are pumping up oil futures, more ships are sailing to the USA to pick up WTI supporting increased growth in our oil industry.

[indissoluble]

US oil production is expected to hit record levels this year, and oil prices will still go down even with increased sales.

[strateguy632]

To @indissoluble superb presentation about exposing european agenda! 👨‍🎓🏅👍

[Master_Debator]

It's their oil... we give them tons of money for being part of our little military group... and they want to just have TDS all of a sudden but want our support with Ukraine.

I think it's obvious Trump wants out of NATO... and the whole situation is making his case. It's kind of sad... getting more help from China... UK sent a ship finally and then it breaks down... Spain wouldn't let us even fly through their air space...

I mean seriously... the Arab nations are helping us more than any of them. So... if Trump pulls out of NATO... that's a lot of money and defence Europe will now have to worry about. I mean Russia is already probing them because of the situation. Queer Starmer saying they chased them off when they've been there for months already.

So that's what it is from my perspective and I'm American. I'm sure some TDS loon will rant and call me names for my opinion, but that's my opinion on it.

[Master_Debator]

Shit, a troll post. I started reading other people's posts and you're just attacking anyone with an opinion you don't like. Pathetic. Why ask a question when you think you already know the answers? Anyways... I can tell you're going to be the TDS loon I was talking about. Let me have it...

[Anonymous]

Help? We have long since given up on expecting you Europeans to help us with anything, much less help yourselves. But don't worry, we'll be there (again) to help your sorry asses when you need it (again).

Make no mistake, the time will come when you need it (again). We are working our asses off to make sure that doesn't happen (again), in spite of your pathetic inability to help yourselves, but unlike you, we'll be there for you (again).

Pathetic, useless, incapable, Europeans.

[Asker]

Stop moaning you little bitch , you got plenty of help during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. And what for? Fk all. If you guys choose to invade countries, don't moan and expect people to clean up your mess

[Opinion Owner]

Don't worry, like I said we'll be there (again) to bail out you pathetically useless Europeans when you need it.

[Asker]

Lol you guys are constantly getting bailed out by issuing bonds. Don't act like you dont get help.

[Opinion Owner]

We wouldn't need bonds if we didn't have to spend so much protecting to useless Europeans.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh, and you're welcome.

[Opinion Owner]

Again.

[strawberryapple]

We already achieved our goal, so we should just walk away from the strait. We just need to grab the uranium and go. And you can do whatever you want with the strait

[Asker]

You need the strait to be open or inflation rises for everyone. That's why trump is desperate for it to open

[strawberryapple]

Then open it. What are you waiting for?

[Asker]

We want you guys to fix the mess trump created.

[strawberryapple]

Cool. How's that working out for you?

[Asker]

Not good, at this stage, because your thick ass orange president has made things bad for everyone

[strawberryapple]

What's your plan?

[KostasKouvalis]

Here's MY question. Under what legal authority does IRAN control the straight, when it's bordered by 2 other countries?

[strawberryapple]

it is classified as an International Strait, which gives it a special legal status under international law.

[strawberryapple]

I was wondering the same thing.

[KostasKouvalis]

This is what Google says

"Iran does not have a formal legal right under international law to control or close the Strait of Hormuz, but rather exercises de facto operational control based on geographical proximity and military presence. While Iran and Oman share sovereignty over the territorial waters, the strait is legally classified as an international strait, ensuring the right of "transit passage" for all ships."

[strawberryapple]

There you go. Iran has no right to block the strait.

[KostasKouvalis]

Exactly. So why isn't the international court punishing them?

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

@KostasKouvalis

Ummm... we are

[genericname85]

cause the only reason nato exists is so that the usa can act like they are protecting everyone while being the boss of everyone and demanding everyone else to bomb whoever they are currently bombing at any given time.

other countries national autonomy and souvereignty is a joke to the usa.

[OneViewpoint]

I agree completely. The EU and the UK have no responsibility to support the illegal war Cheeto Jesus and Bibi just started.

[Pterodon]

Because we have no interest in Irans oil or straight. You’re the ones that depend on it not us. It’s always been under Irans complete control. My question is who the hell let them have that kind of authority? If you like that then do nothing like you are

[msc545]

Well, we might be Americans, but we certainly don't expect you to do anything. In fact, we hope you don't. Trump needs to give up and if you don't help him, that will be one more reason for him to quit. That war is lost, and enough people have been hurt already.

[strateguy632]

We could leave. Gasoline prices in u. S. Stopped increased and even decreased. Europe pays TWICE the price we pay for gasoline, because they rely on Russia and iran. If Europe want oil they need to open the strait because THEY need the oil.

[Anonymous]

America has been doing you a favor by protecting your useless asses with nothing in return for far too long.

Now America has done you a favor again by neutering Iran. The least you can do is fucking support us.

We don't need the straight open. You do. Grow some balls and step the fuck up for a change.

[Dargil]

Your post is profoundly ignorant nonsense.
But I'll help you out.

We have been wiping their noses for 80 years.
They need the oil, we don't.

[Dargil]

I didn't say it.

[DonaldDarko]

America doesn't use the straight, Europe does. Our president id telling them they should have done it themselves long ago.

[Horsegirly2001]

Well you know America is actually doing ok out of the crisis and look whos economy suffers.

[goaded]

They don't understand the nature of the NATO agreements, or that joining in in an illegal war on the aggressor's side would be just as illegal.

[jahaims]

Americans and American politicians aren't the same thing. Europe is paying high energy costs and even more now. It would be in Europe's interest to have it open and low prices

[Anonymous]

Probably because we saved their asses in ww1 and ww2. If you don't wanna help then when some asshole decides to bomb your country again, don't expect help from the US.

[Mike_Hum]

Because we’re calling out Europe for teh spineless assholes they are.

[Pohjolan]

Maybe we should just tell Mr. Cheetos that there is a mass epidemic of bone spurs so we can't participate?

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Better work on your Russian

[KostasKouvalis]

They signed the NATO pact

[KostasKouvalis]

And the US is always the first country to help them

[Pohjolan]

@KostasKouvalis
NATO is a defensive alliance there isn't any more obligation to participate in this war against Iran than the war in Vietnam.

[KostasKouvalis]

@Pohjolan That's stupid though because we're supppsed to wait to be attacked FIRST? And actually someone said before the war Iran attacked one of our vessels

[Pohjolan]

@KostasKouvalis
Actually a second strike doctrine does make sense as far as deterrent goes.
The other side doesn't have to guess so it makes starting a war psychologically less appealing when they can always just delay it without consequences.

"And actually someone said before the war Iran attacked one of our vessels"
You mean the Houthi conflict? Other nations did participate in it mind you.

[Snakeyes7]

Because our tax dollars are paying them to.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Most are dumb !!!

[In_Trance]

They don't