What do you think of this Republican plan to get rid of Trump?

[goaded]

"JD Vance promises Marco Rubio that he’ll appoint him vice president if Rubio joins Vance in seeking to oust Trump under the 25th Amendment.* Rubio agrees.

Vance and Rubio then approach House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune for confidential discussions in which they broach the possibility. Johnson and Thune give Vance and Rubio their tacit support.

Vance and Rubio then get Pete Hegseth to sign on, promising Hegseth that he’ll keep his job. They get Todd Blanche to sign on by promising him he’ll be appointed permanent attorney general.

Vance, Rubio, Hegseth, and Blanche are what Thune and Johnson need to make the 25th stick."

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/what-i-heard-about-the-plot-to-oust

Would the country be better off?

[AyChingao]

J. D. Vance as POTUS? Stephen Miller still running amuck... Vance probably more able to stay on task at this point than DJT. I don't know... I mean maybe we should just let Trump do stupid things with ballrooms and reflecting pools? Relatively harmless those. Pretty sure the military folks won't be willing to follow orders regarding the nuclear football at this point. It's all such a terrible mess, we need them to hace small enough numbers such as to be rendered ineffective. Period.

[goaded]

I hope so.

[Danzigdawson]

It could be better, it could be worse. At worst, JD Maybelline would use the opportunity to become trumpier than thou; at best, he could reject MAGA altogether and bring the GOP back to "normalcy", so to speak... but that would only be slightly better, since the GOP was already a disgrace and a nuisance long before trump.

[OneViewpoint]

Nope. Vance is a hand selected stooge of the 1% people behind project 2025. He's a religious psycho and a White Supremacy nutcase. Vance is probably more dangerous than Cheeto Jesus because he's more controllable.

[Abbycado]

While it all sounds like a new nightmare, is it reliable sources? Likely not.

[goaded]

Serious people apparently think it has a 30% chance of happening.

[lightbulb27]

no way would hegseth do that and be hanged. he could have made big $ doing other things, he went into the military... volunteered. not gonna happen.

better off, might be better off with Vance. It will be hard to unscrew this mess without major losses.

[goaded]

He wouldn't be hanged, where do you get that idea? The 25th Amendment is the law.

They're in the government because they love having power and stealing money. Trump's trying to defraud the taxpayer of $10bn (and if you believe he'd give it to charity, I've got a Trump phone to sell you).

[lightbulb27]

who says they are following any of those old documents? I think anyone attempting to overthrow what is effectively, a king, is making a dangerous move. Look what happened to Marjorie. Trump doesn't have to physically hurt anyone, just talk. His talk is his power. Kings are great, until they aren't.

[exitseven]

President Trump learned during his first term that the swamp is deep and not to hire people who are RINO Republicans. He recruited people that are committed to a Pro America agenda. JD Vance and Marco Rubio are in it to win it. He had an agreement with Speaker Johnson that so far seems to be working.
JD Vance seems to be the chosen one for the next presidency with Marco as VP.
I saw the name Robert Reich and just had to laugh.

[goaded]

"I saw the name Robert Reich and just had to laugh. "
Why? Because he's short? Because he was a high level official in Clinton's administration? Because when he was Secretary of Labor, he worked to better the lives of working people, whereas Trump's pick resigned because she had an affair with another employee and openly drank on the job?

How anyone can believe Trump's picks are remotely competent in their jobs is beyond me.

[AyChingao]

@goaded Reich is another excellent follow. Been watching him since 2015.

[exitseven]

Reich is a moonbat.

[goaded]

He's an adult, with integrity and honour, a sense that government should work for the people, not just the rich.

[Shiprex]

That won't change much but at least it will be grown up identifying people in charge

[goaded]

The trouble is Evil and Competent is worse than Evil and Incompetent. (Not that they're particularly competent, either.)

[Shiprex]

Competence is subjective if the goal is shitty

[msc545]

I'm not saying anything is better than Trump, but the rot in the Republican Party goes really deep. I don't want any more Republicans in any political offices in this country again for an extremely long time, if ever.

[msc545]

Not that said, none of the people that you named are smart enough to even pull something like this off. Not to mention the fact that they are too corrupt and distracted by their own corruption to even try it.

[Zack-Bann]

Why would anyone back a couple of nobodies to get rid of the best president the US has had since the 80’s? ;)

[goaded]

America's Nero.

[QuietRunner]

Sounds like fantasyland talk on the Interwebs

[goaded]

Well, Robert Reichs is a former Secretary of Labor under Clinton, so I don't think the people he's talking to are QAnon-like idiots.

[Snakeyes7]

I don't trust Robert Reich whatsoever. What is the point of ousting Trump now and what do they think they are even getting him on?

The man will be out in two years. By the time you actually get him, his term might as well be over.

[goaded]

Why not? Because he's honest, thoughtful, and worked on behalf of working people, or some other reason?

For Vance, it would make him president, they might think the stink of Trump on their party might dissipate. It won't. Did you even read the plan? How many Democrats do you think would be involved in the 25th Amendment solution?

[Snakeyes7]

No because I think the opposite of him. He is one of the biggest reasons why morons who have no idea how Mussolini ran Italy think Trump is a fascist and ultimately why there are so many leftists, private citizens and politicians alike, want Trump and his supporters murdered.

So because of that, I find this story absurd. I have my issues with Trump, he isn't going hard enough with domestic issues for example, but the idea that Vance and Rubio would stab him in the back like that seems incredibly baseless.

[goaded]

See, lies like "many leftists, private citizens and politicians alike, want Trump and his supporters murdered" are why I prefer adults. Like Reichs.

[Snakeyes7]

I have no idea how you can just handwave that after Charlie Kirk and at least three attempts on Trump's life.

[goaded]

So four is "many", now?

[Snakeyes7]

ONE is too many. We shouldn't be having people trying to assassinate politicians and political commentators if we are to be a functioning country.

[goaded]

Four is not "many".

I suppose nobody tried to kill Biden or Obama. Shit, one of the plots came from inside the US Army.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama
en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

Don't forget Democratic lawmakers were murdered in Minnesota.

en.wikipedia.org/.../2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

[Snakeyes7]

Sure and I denounce those, however I don't think we have ever seen such a public assassination of a non politician since MLK. Kirk was not a politician nor was he a violent person, just a guy who wanted to talk things out. Whoever shot him, either the left Israel or whatever has only proven that his ideas are better because if they weren't, the other party wouldn't result to shooting him.

[goaded]

Arguing against war with Iran was a good idea, the rest afaik were not.

[Snakeyes7]

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said. Did you mean to comment on someone else?

[goaded]

I was, like you, talking about Kirk's ideas; he was against war with Iran. By your logic, the murderer of Democratic politicians proved their ideas were better. So were the ideas of the US citizens gunned to death by ICE in full view of the world. Heh. In those cases, you could even be right!

[Snakeyes7]

Except there was nothing about the killers of democrat politicians that made them out to be on the other political side. IIRC, the only thing that sort of linked the murderer of Hortman was that he was a Christian, which isn't necessarily a dead giveaway because up until Trump, the Catholics were largely democrats and I don't know what denomination he was.

The two people who were shot were cases of suicide by cop. If they hadn't interfered, they would still be alive. Good used her car to physically impede their progress and Pretti kicked out a taillight and spat in their direction, with the spit possibly hitting one of them which would be battery. If ICE did a drive by then I would understand your point but those two people were not in the mood for a good-ol'-fashioned debate.

[goaded]

Would you say the same about someone trying to kill Trump?

No, it wasn't "suicide by cop", one was obviously trying to get away (while the authorities knew her name, address, car number plate, and had her face on camera), the other was protecting a woman assaulted by an agent. Neither of those things were imminent danger to the murderers or capital offences.

[Snakeyes7]

Their manifestos, who they donated to or who's commercials they were in like BlackRock are usually a dead giveaway.

Yes they were suicide by cop. Good could have just never blocked ICE in the first place, got out of the vehicle when told three times to do so, she could have backed out because I don't think there was anyone in the way in that direction. If her goal was to avoid running the cop over, she picked the most difficult method possible.

After all the damage metoo has done to assault allegations against a woman, especially against political targets, I'm gonna hit you with the "I don't think she has, mate."

Also, there was footage of Pretti kicking out a taillight and spitting on them which is destroying state property and assaulting an officer.

The worst part is, the people they are defending don't even see them as people, just tax slaves funding their piracy.

[goaded]

I'd read and respond, but it's been nearly two weeks.

[Alex-Snow]

The GOP is too chicken to ever try it

[OddBeMe]

July 20th is right around the corner.

[goaded]

There's one every year. What's important about that date?

[oldman26]

SSDD

[goaded]

Explain?

[oldman26]

Same shit different day

[goaded]

Ah, thank you. New one on me.