Can US birthright citizenship be limited for children of foreign nationals?

[darkcloud1945]

A child is born here as planned by foreign nationals [ anchor baby]. The child is an automatic citizen; parents are not citizens. Solution: The child becomes a ward of the government, parents go home without the child [American citizen ], OR the parents sign a document rejecting all rights till the age of 18 of becoming citizens. The child reaching the age of 18 will be allowed to file to become a citizen through naturalization. No birthrights involved

[choco-latte]

Sure, let’s hand all newborn babies over to a government that has been suspected of hiding pedophile and human trafficking rings just cause their parents aren’t US citizens (mind you, they could be legal residents). What could possibly go wrong?

[darkcloud1945]

Mind you, it is the AMERICA LAST DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA that are the pedophiles; they are the ones who let in millions of illegals who are the pedophiles murders rapist, and we are not talking LEGAL RESIDENTS, just the plan birth for anchor baby status. Just like the temporary protected status people here for 20 or 30 years, and in all that time, they did not even attempt to FILE FOR CITIZENSHIP. Now that the shit hit the fan, they are crying, even tho they had 20 to 30 apply for citizenship and just sponged off our generosity. What could have possibly gone wrong has.

[choco-latte]

The world isn’t as black and white as you think. Just because one thing is wrong doesn’t mean that the other end of the spectrum is right.

[darkcloud1945]

My world has room for a lot of grey, not like the AMERICA LAST DEMOCRATS. The problem is that no one said the other side of the spectrum is right, that your assumption of the facts at hand. Just for shits and giggles, what is your answer to the problem besides making them citizens

[choco-latte]

I’m in favor of the constitution, but I think there should be some vetting for tourist visas and to keep the border secure

[choco-latte]

As per legal residents, they should have every right to have children here and their children to become citizens upon birth. They already followed a vetting process and did not everything right to be here.

[darkcloud1945]

Please explain. They already followed a vetting process and did not everything right to be here. Also, they may be here legally, but why have they not filed for citizenship? Residency does not make citizens.

[Capplica]

@darkcloud1945 Trump should put up an Iranian, Israel, Russian, Chineses, flag in his office he is doing a great job helping them make more money, weapons, and our AI chips making us fall behind. Trump is a new york city democrat remember?

So he is an America last Democrat like you said. He gave Mayor Adams of New York a comfy job and way to escape justice.

He was also bromancing with Mamdani after his victory in NYC. He said he was a great guy, but he doesn't agree with political views.

He loves giving free money to the middle east, communist Russia and China

[choco-latte]

@darkcloud1945 I meant to write that they followed a normal visa processing and did everything right to be here. They waited for years.

[msc545]

Once again, the dark specter of delusion rears its ugly head in this post. Please get some help for your delusional disorder.

[darkcloud1945]

The borders are open, and the vetting process is used every day. It is not like the Biden open, not open, open border, and the influx of up to 20 million illegal [ not emigrants] aliens into our nation, 340,000 missing children that are who knows where.

[AviatorTom]

The media, as usual, reports things incorrectly, reporting that SCOTUS ruled that anyone born in the US is a citizen, as required by the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution. That's wrong, because the 14th Amendment allows for exceptions to that, for example, children born to foreign ambassadors and their staff.

That exception was included, acknowledging that some people are only in the US temporarily, and have no desire to perform the actions of a citizen. That logic can, and should, be used to exclude those born here only because the parents were intentionally here temporarily. Chinese parents, in particular, spend thousands of dollars to do just that.

SCOTUS can, and should, revisit the 14th Amendment and its interpretations, and rule that those people born in the US during temporary visits, which the 14th already excludes, are not automatically granted US citizenship.

[msc545]

Here I'll put it in terms that you will understand: who is going to pay to feed that child, or will you attend to your cruelty to make them into a slave and make him pay you back for all your trouble? The short answer is you can't do anything you've proposed in regard to this issue. It's against the law, and the law still pertains. You can't make people into slaves, and you can't take people's children away from them because you don't like the fact that they're not white.

[darkcloud1945]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CUT THE BULLSHIT BY TURNING EVERYTHIG AUTOMATICALLY REVERTS TO RACE AND COLOR OF THE SKIN. Other than making skin color and race pertain to everything and perhaps make a useful suggestion on how to help fix the problem, other than make everyone a cirizen like the AMERICA LAST DEMOCRATS [ COMMUNIST PARTY ] wants to do.

[SkimmingDetective]

Why do non native people want us citizenship so much

[darkcloud1945]

How about learning where they come from, their living conditions, and how most 3rd world countries receive foreign aid in the billions of dollars that go into the pockets of the rulers and not the people? Is there another country that has the freedom and protection of laws of a that is why they come and do not froget all of the

[darkcloud1945]

Free free freebfree everything the Communist party of America wants to give them for their votes when they can vote SORRY POWER FAILURES

[katiesmuff]

I've had a hard time finding anybody who has any issue with the way it is or even gave it a thought until that useless SOB you call president made an issue of it. The sooner he is long gone to the great fire below the better off this country will be. The sooner the better!

[darkcloud1945]

Oh, so you think that it will be better under a Communist government than under Trump. I would love to be alive when that realization hits your wallet. Please do tell what your recommendations would be, how you would fund them, and where in the world communism has ever worked. Just think, under Communism, you don't own your house anymore, your savings account is gone, your retirement is gone, and your freedom of speech is gone. Fuel shortages, you can wait on the food line for bread made from part sawdust and grain for hours, and food shortages. Read Russian history for the 40s and 50s, and maybe some of the pictures of people online for the GUM store, to open with empty shelves. Oh, by the way, the stores are owned by the government, just like the NYC Freefood store, costing over seventy million dollars to start up, and said to be years away. So I guess you think that it is better. You just might get what you wish for.

[katiesmuff]

First I'd freeze the bank accounts of anyone ever wore one of his red hat and praised MAGA. Those that objected simply ship them off to some island prison where they fend for themselves. Your idea of communism (which is all bullshit) anyway would be much better than a fascist dictatorship which we currently seem to have. Guess I see why your a single old fuck

[darkcloud1945]

So says you, the communist and chief asshole Dumacrat, how much is the Dumocratic party paying you assholes to sound so stupid publicly? If shit was strength, you would be a poerhouse!

[katiesmuff]

We feel it is our duty to rid the world of useless ignorant morons such as you and those other uneducated redneck useless assholes. Now go change your fucking diaper!

[darkcloud1945]

OH! Just freeze your account ! You really do not have a clue about communism at all. You can freeze your account till hell freezes over and the Communist government comes into the bank and takes not ask TAKES your money. You have NO SAY! THIS IS THE COMMUNIST WAY. Please take YOUR belongings and move to your utopian country and live with your dream, and leave this country that you are not happy with. I am sure you will be extremely happy living there under your loving communist government. And this widowed old fuck has grown up and raised children and grandchildren under the threat of communism that you so stupidly think is better than what we have. Please just leave, and to show that you are serious, renounce your citizenship. We do not need assholes like you trying to destroy a nation that 3/4 of the people voted for with free elections

[katiesmuff]

Well grandpa did you have to take a nitro pill after that rant! What nursing home are you in so I could contact the staff and let them know some delusional old fuck has gotten on one of their computers and acting like a raving insane idiot on this kiddie site. He said something about his diaper stinking! Please check and change.

[darkcloud1945]

Now you refer to the murder of someone who does not follow your policies, you are the poster child of what this country will turn into when you and your followers ever come to power, MURDER YOU'RE OPPONENTS. What will you do if you win, engage a person on the street, ask them a question, and if you do not like what they say, you murder them? You are one of the reasons places like Creedmore exist to keep people from hurting others who do not ascribe to your views and hurting your mentally challenged self. Please engage your brain before you type anything. Your stupidity is astounding!!!

[katiesmuff]

OH PLEASE, I don't believe I suggested killing anybody, taking property and sending to prison yes, but not murdering. Only one doing that is the asshole in power at the moment.

[jshm2]

LOL, don't be stupid and insular.

There is no conspiracy by "foreign nationals" to risk having a baby in the USA. The shitty health care business in the USA ensures having a baby in the USA is risky even for citizens!

You also must have been raised in the woods by animals, as you don't understand how caring for human newborns works. You cannot just "hand off" a newborn. Nor does the law and society allow breaking families as you're suggesting.

[darkcloud1945]

Who said it would be just out of the womb, baby, but I guess that is just the way a sick mind likes to twist things. The conspiracy is practiced every year, to the tune of over a hundred thousand times a year, by China. China books pregnant to be mother to the USA, she has a baby, an American citizen, then takes the baby back to China to be indoctrinated with America's bad. The child returns 20 years later as an American citizen to undermine and subvert our government. Our shitty health care cannot be that bad when thousands of Canadians cross over each year for surgeries that they have to wait for over a year to get in Canada. Get your head out of the sand and wake up from being Woke. Your stupidity is showing by saying I was raised in the woods by animals. For your information, animals care for their young better than humans do. We break up families lawfully every day by the hundreds, if not thousands, when mothers and fathers are sent to jail

[Snakeyes7]

Nope, the primary author of the first clause of the 14 amendment, Jacob Howard, said it as such: the amendment “will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States.”

[exitseven]

The supreme court ruled that no they can't/. Thee are other measures that can be take to discourage this practice. The Trump administrstion is exploring alternatives to disincentivize having so called anchor babies.

[Just_Ken]

^^^^^^^^^^^

[slatyb]

Not without a constitutional amendment. People do not come here planning to leave their children behind.

[strateguy632]

that is a good idea and a deterrent to parents.

[fishbone77]

Why would I have to pay for the rearing of this child?

[darkcloud1945]

Why should I have to pay for the whole family to be here on my dime? If you want them here, then pay for their expenses out of your pocket! not mine! It would be cheaper to pay for one child rather than the whole family over the course of fifteen or twenty years. Better yet, get all of them the hell out of this country and stop paying for them now. We are the only country with this anchor-baby crap. Who the hell in this country would want to go to Africa or China or the DPK for a better life

[darkcloud1945]

Who is paying for them now? DUH! We are. But most people cannot figure it out because our education system did not teach math. Is it cheaper to pay to raise ONE child for 20 years or the child and parent, and siblings for 20 plus years? Have you possibly figured it out now?

[fishbone77]

Get rid of all of them.

[darkcloud1945]

You are paying for them now the millions let in to this country by Biden and the Dimocrats. Now China is doing an end run with the birthright babies have the birth here bring to China for 20 years come back because they are citizens and undermine the country. Cheaper to keep them here and educate them our way Either way we are paying for them

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Sure. Sounds like it would disincentivize coming here illegally

[Mike_Hum]

We need to ban all women that could be pregnant from entering the country.

[Kassandra1994]

abortion

[CrystalPeak]

Just get rid of the whole thing.