868 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. At a biological level we are repulsed by very close genes or people we grew up very close to as a baby and toddler. Except in rare exceptions, mostly royals who were too concerned too much with keeping the power like the Habsburgs or the Ptolemaic dynasty, people even in prehistory didn't practice immediate family incest and it was always a big taboo. Why it's bad to have a kid with a parent or a sibling is that the resulting child will be abnormal. And the longer the chain of incest goes, the more horrific the results. The only kind of incest that was more common was first or second cousin marriages. Still in places like pakistan it's common. But biologically it's still not very advantageous, 1 in 4 will be born with deformitites and/or handicaps.
Basically we biologically don't associate our immediate families with reproduction, and babies from incest are not healthy and normal often.
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Because most societies understand the genetic risks and would never risk imposing those consequences upon anyone.
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m 11 dDifferent explanations from different schools, it seems...
Some consider that incest is instinctively repulsive, then a moral rule was later built upon this repulsion by societies. Though manifestly not universally repulsive, as there are many criminal cases involving incest in any society, for any era considered.
Some consider that this moral rule was initially built upon politics and opportunity, because facilitating marriage and reproduction outside of the tribe made alliances possible between different clans.
Side note, some suggest that incest aversion works on people not only due to the act itself but also because revealing the act is easily silenced by society. Because society would feel better, in general, when avoiding mentions of the topic altogether
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2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Even in the tribal days, the tribes exchanged either daughters or sons with other tribes. During the Agriculural Revolution it was standardized that daughters left their home and joined the husbands family.
It does seem that there is inbuilt inhibition to get off with children you were raised with. The Israeli kibbutz is often cited. There are few marriages within a kibbutz so there does seem an evolutionary mechanism to prevent inbreeding.
The reason incest is abhorred is of course that it gets very confusing when the husband is simultaneously the father, uncle, cousin and nephew of the wife. So it had to be banned so that when she called out Uncle not all the men responded.00 Reply
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12 dI'm guessing health class and biology were confusing for you.
- Incest creates a higher probability of passing on recessive genes that could result in birth defects. If you don't see that as a moral and ethical problem, you have a problem.
- And then there's the purely sociological problem of a parent having sex with their child or a sibling having sex with their sister or brother. It creates a weird power dynamic when a parent or aunt/uncle are involved. And even with siblings or cousins it can get weird within a family.
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Anonymous(36-45)11 dIncest is mentioned in the bible and discouraged.
A lot of laws, moral lessons in the bible are based on common sense.
First mention of incest in the bible was lot who was seduced by his two daughters. Anyway incest has negative effects on DNA of children. Sure a father and daughter, uncle and niece, brother and sister, cousins etc may be lucky and have a healthy child but successive generations will not. You see what happened with the European Hasburg dynasty where they were so inbred that the hasburg rulers of Austria were having trouble having healthy kid. The last hasburg ruler of spain was so inbred that he was mentally and physically disabled, his tongue was so enlarged he couldn't speak and couldn't have kids as he was impotent.
Then you just have to look at muslims who practice cousin marraige over multiple generations.
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True. Look at Caligula. He boned his own sister. And look at the kook he was.
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also UK law, it is illegal to marry your niece such as uncles/nieces and aunts/nephews. despite bible only listed aunt or daughter not niece. matching genesis 11.29 he wed his brother's daughter.
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@strateguy632 Well in the beginning there was no one to marry except relatives. But the gene pool at that time was not corrupted so there was no danger in it. But just think, about how many relatives you have on this planet. 🌍
Opinion Owner11 d@NoDecision cleopatra was the result of generations of Ptolemy inbreeding.
The bible forbids marrying aunts, mothers daughter's but doesn't mention nieces probably because patriarchs like Abraham did.
Marrying an aunt or uncle was only made ilegal in the uk in 1949, probably because only aristocrats did it though less and less from the middle ages on ward.
Cousin marraige is still legal in the uk. They tried to ban it but muslims put pressure on the uk government not to. Only muslims in the uk marry their cousins. Like we were shocked when a famous American showed up in the 50s with his 13 year old wife/cousin.
12 dA psychologically healthy person does not develop sexual attraction toward people they grew up with under the same roof, whether they are biologically related or not.
On the other hand, it is possible to feel attraction toward a biological sibling whom you meet for the first time, though I still find it disgusting.
Societies that accepted incest were generally ones with rigid class hierarchies.
As far as I know, in Ancient Egypt, Iran, and New Zealand, the ruling dynasties maintained their bloodlines through incestuous relationships. Each social class reproduced within its own group. Just imagine it: you're supposedly the ruler of the country, even the leaves are said to obey your command, yet your only option is to have sex with your own sister.
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what about a cousin not in same home?
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@strateguy632 It's not pleasant, but it's not something that should be banned.
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12 dcause biologically, procreation happens to diversify the gene pool. diversifying the gene pool is important cause that's how our species survives. incest is doing the opposite: homogenizing the gene pool. so that is litterally contraproductive to the long term survival of our species. and the reason it's illegal in lots of societies is because that will have a very high rate of generating birth defects. cause that's how fast you'll notice a homogenious gene pool. it doesn't need several generations.
00 Reply 931 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It’s evolutionary.
All living organisms realized millions of years ago that inbreeding created defective offspring
So they developed a natural repulsion to it
Which later became social as well.
Now it’s utterly demonized.
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11 dIncest can lead to pregnancy and, because of genetics, can result in physical abnormalities.
Also, and perhaps this is more important, it's best to expand the genepool, since that leads to stringer and more durable humans over time. Incest doesn't do that.00 Reply - 3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
11 dExperience has taught us that long term inbreeding results in congenital defects. It’s frowned upon because it literally threatens the longevity of bloodlines and anything that threatens bloodlines threatens the species.
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11 dBecause it leads to more people with genetic disorders, disabilities etc and even if some siblings are just trying to play it safe and not have kids, it just makes the whole environment odd
Stuff like that just needs to stay as a fantasy
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11 dincest is so bad , so bad the my mytake was deleted for mentioning it. i guess you are not a trump supporter so you can say it?
00 Reply It happens more often than most people realize
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@Paige2006 I second.
27.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. When you breeed bloodlines to closely whether it is dogs, horses or people there are genetic consequences.
00 ReplyMaybe because the children are more likely to be born with Down syndrome?
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Anonymous(18-24)11 dThey probably saw that sex with a relative caused birth defects and so made it socially not acceptable to prevent that from happening.
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12 dIts not just morally wrong but genetically wrong! I don't know why it is considered morally wrong. Until a find an answer I will keep considering morally wrong though. That's my choice.
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12 dBecause it is a perversion, it is considered morally wrong.
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Anonymous(25-29)10 dBecause it can cause medical problems for the offspring.
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10 dBecause it's pretty much one of the grossest things you could ever do.
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12 dBecause its disgusting and seriously disturbing to be having sex with a close relative.
00 Reply 11.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. ... bruh @Ez-Bri-Z_v2
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If we have to explain it to him then chances are he's already fantasizing about his cousin or something. Gross
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@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 Imagining someone of the same sex is disgusting. On the other hand, even incest—despite the risk that the child could be born with disabilities—at least results in a child being born.
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Lol let your homophobia dominate your existence if you want, but it still beats having sex with your sister because nobody else will have you in their bed 🤷♀️
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@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 Besides, marriage between cousins isn't even considered incest.
Come to where I'm from—it's really common here, hahaha - 12 d
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 Don't be so sure. I met a tourist from your country on the subway once, and she ended up staying at my place.
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"Tourist from your country"
Whatever you and your mom choose to role-play in the bedroom is on y'all. Just leave us out of it. - 12 d
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 So now it's "you" and "us"? Are you a racist?
Over there, sleeping with a dog is considered normal; over here, marrying your cousin is considered normal.
You need to understand that different cultures have different norms—that's what culture is - 12 d
In no place is sleeping with your dog normal. Weird of you to even be thinking about that kind of thing though.
Also, by saying us, I meant Agape and me.
I don't need to understand anytjing about your culture. It's wrong. Hooking up and marrying family members is disgusting. - 12 d
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 In general, people with strong tribal or clan ties are the ones who marry relatives. Their mindset is, "Better that they're one of us than a stranger—we'll look after and protect each other." Another reason is to keep farmland and inheritance from passing to outsiders. That's the reasoning behind why people choose to marry relatives.
As for my own reasoning, I simply believe that if something is preferable to what I see as a much worse option (same-sex relationships), that doesn't necessarily make it good—it just makes it the lesser evil (marriage between relatives). Anyway, have a good day - 12 d
Lol right, Agape? This guy is still trying to convince us that sleeping with his cousin is a good thing.
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Cousin marriage is even legal in some country like uk, japan
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Why these countries allow cousin marriage?
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Because some of the people who make these laws are sick in the head just like ones who do want to marry family members.
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Spain and france too cousin marriage legal...
. I have a question gay sex and casual sex with random people omay but not cousin sex why? - 10 d
Same I feel when gay sex had made legal same thinks many eastern people
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Are you dense? Gay sex doesn't result in deformed children.
Having sex with your cousin is no different than having sex with your aunt/uncle/mom/dad/brother/sister, etc. It's still family. Gross. - 10 d
Not a clue but I wish they wouldn't.
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@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 You're right, but it can lead to AIDS.
Wow, so woke people suddenly care about "protecting the family" now?
If the baby would be born with disabilities, they'd just have an abortion, right? Aren't you pro-choice? Or they could simply use protection.
By the way, you said they're part of the family... When was the last time you called your aunt just to check how she was doing? - 10 d
You can get AIDS from straight sex too. What kind of stupid logic is that?
Lol so you are saying conservatives are the party of pedo protectors AND family sex? Wow.
I just saw my family at my grandmother's funeral thanks and I have them all on Facebook. What does that have to do with you wanting to hook up with your aunt? - 9 d
Sleeping with cousin and sleeping with family is not the same... there are protection thats why casual sex all the time doesn't lead to children...
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Cousin marriage is legal around the world in many countries why you have priblem with this legality? how you can accept gay sex but cousin one? cousin marriage is considered even normal in many parts of world... there ar healthy cousin couples too...
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Gay sex is normal in western nations too... not in muslim nation or in Asian nation... you cannot agree that gay sex normal but cousin attraction is not normal
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Im done spamming Agape with messages. If you want to be sick, twisted family fuckers then you do you, but stop trying to legitimize it by saying gay sex is the same. It's not.
1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Inbreeding for one creates deformities..
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Anonymous(18-24)12 dRisk of genetic defects
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11 dIs it acceptable in yours?
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cousins in arab countries.
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nearly 58% in Saudi Arabia, Rates of cousin marriage in the Middle East up to 50% in the Gulf states. but hapsburg dynasty king family showed danger. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c241pn09qqjo
12 dBecause it's morally wrong.
00 Reply4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No way you are that stupid
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1 dLook at the British royalty to understand why
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