Why do people infantilize 18-year-old women as ‘little girls’ and ‘innocent’?

[Badtobad]

18 year old women are called little girls, innocent etc it's pathetic and ridiculous.

[ryanontario]

i see a lot of girls like this , 18 but mature enough that there clearly not innocent anymore

[Badtobad]

Exactly

[RavVid]

I'd agree. It is infantalizing. We need to rip the vote off them if there is any basis.

[RavVid]

Thanks for a mho. :)

17/18 girls realize they have a lot of power very quickly

[MzAsh]

Mentally and emotionally, yes they’re still little girls.

[Badtobad]

No they are not, that's absolutely ridiculous to say

[Badtobad]

You sound like you are still a little girl

[Taranis_Thunor]

Ah yes they should avoid having children right up until they have menopause right?

[MzAsh]

Yes, because obviously the only two stages of female development are “little girl” and “menopausal.” Absolutely nothing happens in between. Brilliant work.

[Miristheiss]

They are grown ass adults you witch.

[Badtobad]

@Miristheiss lol she removed my answer calling her a little girl, she must have been raised by overprotective Dads so toxic

[MzAsh]

Relax y'all, we’ll have to agree to disagree.

[Badtobad]

Okay little girl

[Badtobad]

@MzAsh

[Taranis_Thunor]

Right so even though we know young women having children is much healthier for the children then once she hits her 30's, we should encourage young women to consider her careers and ambitions still and having children is the afterthought? When she can have less children.
This is why the West is currently losing to 3rd world cultures.
Being a parent teaches you to be mature as it's a responsibility. Also if she is younger she has a larger family supporting her that aren't dead yet. It used to be that grandparents did a lot of the parenting but that is seen as horrible and exploitative in our hyper individualist pleasure chasing culture.
I have the moral high ground here and you're accusing me of making a paedophile argument that I didn't make as an 18 year old isn't a "little girl" anymore. Infact that's around the peak of her fertility and when she has fully developed breasts & other sex organs which men will find attractive.

[MzAsh]

I said 18-year-olds are mentally and emotionally very young. You responded by talking about fertility, birth rates, and how developed their breasts and sex organs are. None of those things establish psychological maturity. Puberty gives you sexually mature anatomy long before it gives you adult judgment, life experience, or emotional development. You’re arguing against a point I never made.

[Badtobad]

@MzAsh No you said they have the mental development of a little kid. That's ridiculous and offensive to women. There's no evidence you can give to prove that and the evidence points against you.

[MzAsh]

I absolutely called them little girls, and I stand by what I meant by it. I did not say an 18-year-old has the cognitive development of a small child. Those are two different statements. I’m saying 18 is extraordinarily young, and legal adulthood doesn’t magically confer the judgment, emotional maturity or life experience of a fully mature adult. If you want to disagree with calling them “little girls,” fine. But disagree with what I actually said instead of turning it into a developmental claim I never made.

[Badtobad]

So what is a little girl then? I don't think you know what you are talking about

[Taranis_Thunor]

Women mature psychologically a lot earlier then men do. It's just biology. Do you really think we would not have gone extinct if everyone in history waited until they arbitrarily 100% finish puberty? The average lifespan was often 30-40 because many people often died of diseases, infections and violence before they could even become middle aged.
When does puberty stopping even happen really? 25? 30? Cause for men it's a longer process then for women so why don't young adult men get more protection than women using your argument?
Personally I say that European & American standard of 16-18 is perfectly reasonable when you compare us to 3rd world countries where girls are married off as soon as they lose their period for the first time (which ofc I would say is bad), as that to them is a sign from God himself that they're ready (not just an Islamic thing either).
Ofc this more barbaric worldview leads to abuse and grooming, but the Islamic population is definitely outbreeding the Western populations fast often with 10-15 children per household even when they arrive at Western countries.
I'd rather not live in a society neutered by feminists if we're going up against cultures that perform demographic warfare.

[MzAsh]

And there it is. We started with whether 18-year-olds are mentally and emotionally mature, and somehow we’ve arrived at women needing to reproduce young because Muslims are supposedly engaging in “demographic warfare” and feminism has “neutered” Western society.

A woman’s reproductive organs being mature does not mean her psychological development is complete. Historical populations having children young doesn’t establish that it was developmentally ideal, either. And low historical life expectancy was heavily influenced by infant and childhood mortality, people weren’t routinely keeling over from old age at 35.

But more importantly, women are not demographic weapons. An 18-year-old doesn’t owe “the West” several babies because you’re worried another ethnic or religious population might have more. If your argument for encouraging very young women to reproduce ultimately requires treating their fertility as a resource in a population contest, you’ve wandered a hell of a long way from proving they’re mature.

[Badtobad]

Just go away both of you.

@MzAsh you are annoying and ridiculous, you clearly have trauma you need to work on.

[Taranis_Thunor]

"Historical populations having children young doesn’t establish that it was developmentally ideal, either. " Actually yes it does because if it was always done throughout every culture in history going back to the stone age, then it shows we would have evolved for that to be the natural age when people start mating. Why do you think 18 year olds are so horny to begin with?
What does "maturity" have to do with it anyway? So she can wait untill l she's old enough to decide whether she chooses a career over a family? That's exactly the neutered feminist thinking I was pointing out to begin with.

" And low historical life expectancy was heavily influenced by infant and childhood mortality, people weren’t routinely keeling over from old age at 35." Of you read what I put you'd know I explicitly called it an average life expectancy and it still proves my point. If more babies were dying from infant mortality rates then she needed to have more children and earlier to keep up with the death toll.
"But more importantly, women are not demographic weapons. " They are. This is why every anti-western person, such as communists and certain religious groups have been known for frequently promote anti-natalism & feminism more than the base population. Women have always been demographic weapons and if you want to destroy another tribe's growth potential you target this women first. This is also why women weren't ever sent off to war throughout history unless the culture was facing enough of an existential crisis to justify it (like the desperate nomadic Scythians. Try and come up with more examples).
Why do I need to prove women are mature when I believe they're inherently more immature then men anyway? Half of our problems wouldn't exist if we didn't give them the right to vote.

[MzAsh]

Well, there we have it. You started this conversation telling me it was “ridiculous and offensive to women” for me to call 18-year-olds mentally and emotionally immature. Several paragraphs later, you now believe women are “inherently more immature than men” and shouldn’t have been given the right to vote. So apparently female immaturity only becomes offensive when I use it as an argument for giving very young women more protection and autonomy, rather than as an argument for taking women’s autonomy away.

And thank you for explicitly confirming that you view women as “demographic weapons.” That clears up the rest of this considerably. Their individual maturity, ambitions and choices don’t actually matter under your framework because their reproductive capacity belongs, in some sense, to the tribe.

Which is exactly why maturity matters. A woman isn’t a breeding resource for your demographic war. She’s a person who gets to decide what happens to her own life and body. But you’ve brilliantly revealed your argument requires her to make those decisions before she’s mature enough to know what she actually wants.

[Taranis_Thunor]

"Well, there we have it. You started this conversation telling me it was “ridiculous and offensive to women” for me to call 18-year-olds mentally and emotionally immature." No I don't think I said that as I'm always open with my beliefs. My argument for not sleeping with children isn't even that theyre too immature (though that'd be correct) it's that the act of sex with a child itself is degenerate, disgusting and erodes moral standards because children are physically not prepared and their innocence should be protected because if we all can't get by childhood without having to live as an adult that is very bad. So out dislike of paedophilia is a good instinct but that then crosses over into territory where we keep raising the age limit to prove what non-paedophiles we are. by the way in my country the UK the legal age is 16, so if we raise it to 18 do the Americans then raise it up to 20? We gotta put the line somewhere and 20 isn't it.

18 year old women are definitely not innocent and infact extremely horny on average.
"Their individual maturity, ambitions and choices don’t actually matter under your framework because their reproductive capacity belongs, in some sense, to the tribe." Yes I am a tribalist/nationalist who doesn't even believe in modern democracy to begin with so that's who you're debating with. Isn't it funny how so many people want the age limit raised but they also want to lower the age to vote? Most people, even men, are too stupid to vote responsibly which is why we have corrupt 2 party systems everywhere.

[Taranis_Thunor]

"She’s a person who gets to decide what happens to her own life and body. " Her decisions will lead to chasing careers and sleeping with old creepy workplace men to get positions in society. It's sickening to think that women have been brainwashed by anti natalist media and brainwashing to think that working in an office is going to bring you more happiness then spending time with your children and actually positively contributing to your bloodline. Once you die as an individual, your children will inherit the world after you. Working for your tribe is a much higher goal & virtue then just working in an office so you can spend money on nightclubs & holidays.
I think women should start thinking who to marry when they're 18. We're not living in a medieval economy so we don't have to have arranged marriages anymore but I'd like to note that people historically did think marrying for passion was listening to the devil over marrying to strengthen your families position in life (the blacksmith marrying into the fletcher family can create an excellent trade/support network).
We're not aristocrats, land owners & peasants anymore so we can leave arranged marriages to the 3rd world.
It'd be nice if parents had more of a say on who their sons & daughters go out with though because parents usually do have your best interests at heart and have more life experience.
That should be cultural, not legally enforced though. It wasn't legally enforced even in the medieval era but it was still enforced too harshly, for survival reasons.

[MzAsh]

It’s interesting how your ideal social order systematically removes every form of leverage that allows a woman to decide she’d rather remain single than reproduce with a particular man. Marry young, discourage careers, weaken individualism, increase family pressure, prioritize the tribe, and apparently take away her vote while we’re at it.

You keep presenting this as concern about civilization, but it creates a remarkably convenient reproductive marketplace for men who might not be selected if women were completely free and economically capable of saying no.

If your bloodline can only survive by reducing women’s ability to reject you, maybe feminism isn’t what neutered it.

[Taranis_Thunor]

"You keep presenting this as concern about civilization, but it creates a remarkably convenient reproductive marketplace for men who might not be selected if women were completely free and economically capable of saying no."

This completely exposed your self centered world view actually. You want all of the incels in society to go about and die with no genetic lineage. You want the system where women are all having sex with a small percentage of men because women's ego & standards have been massively inflated by all of the simps giving them validation on the internet. I say those men who have millions of years of ancestry behind them shouldn't be expected to get by with noone in society whilst women spread their legs for every Chad out there and I say this as a 6'4'' man who has empathy for other men where most women simply lack it, because women are tribalistic towards their own gender (Which is why women were supporting Lindsay murdering her own children mind you).
This is because women were expected to stay at home and look out for each other whilst men earned wives through hunting, raiding & kidnapping (we don't have to revive the last part, even if women do have a fetish for being swept off their feet).
"If your bloodline can only survive by reducing women’s ability to reject you, maybe feminism isn’t what neutered it." Yes it is because a lot of these ugly or less confident men don't deserve a lonely extinction like you would have for them.
When women are given the right to vote they vote in rapist Mohammedans all whilst lecturing white people that men overall should do better.

[MzAsh]

Women freely choosing their partners means some “ugly or less confident men” might face what you dramatically call “lonely extinction,” and you don’t think they deserve that. But nobody is sentencing these men to anything. A woman declining to fuck, marry or reproduce with a man isn’t depriving him of something he was entitled to receive.

And look how quickly the seething starts when women exercise that choice. Their standards are “inflated.” They’re “spreading their legs for Chad.” (Of course everyone else is Chad except the man talking) The men they don’t choose are victims who “don’t deserve” to have their bloodlines end.

That’s precisely the reproductive marketplace I was talking about. You don’t actually object to selection. You object to women being the selectors when their selections leave some men empty handed.

Unfortunately, sexual autonomy comes with the horrifying possibility that nobody may voluntarily choose you. There is no human right to genetic descendants, and women aren’t civilization’s participation trophies for men who couldn’t attract a willing partner.

And if female freedom produces outcomes you don’t like, the answer isn’t to give women less freedom until those men finally get picked. That’s not concern for civilization. That’s reproductive affirmative action for incels.

[Taranis_Thunor]

"Women freely choosing their partners means some “ugly or less confident men” might face what you dramatically call “lonely extinction,” and you don’t think they deserve that."
Well no they don't actually. Ugly women still get to fuck because of all the normie simps in our culture whose lust women frequently take advantage of. A lot of these ugly men would still be able to reproduce if feminism never got in the way, because they'd be able to earn a wife through a successful life which is why Boomer men had nowhere near the incel problems our generation is now having. Do you think it's better we live in a society full of bitter, lonely depressed men. Wanna know what kinda demographic groups like ISIS recruits from because their religion is polygamous, dooming their young men to loneliness? Do you think the bitter incel is going to care about any of your so called "Rights".

[Taranis_Thunor]

I prefer to call them entitlements as there wasn't some God that gave you an inherent right to anything in my religion. The old libertine argument for rights depended on Christian arguments but the more nature inclined Pagans had a might makes right mentality, even the Democratic Greek pagans did.
You have thoroughly proven you are incapable of sympathising with men who you're not attracted to because you think being lonely rejects is an acceptable position for about half of the male population (if not more) to endure. This would never be acceptable and become a male beauty standards issue if it were done in the reverse. Let's say in a Chinese village all of the men decided to neglect their women for women from other countries, I would feel sorry for the women that made lonely.
Women having massively inflated standards means women will just fuck a guy out of their league, this inflates her ego because she thinks she's desirable, but then that Chad goes on to dump her for a prettier girl in his league and the woman who gets dumped/cheated on kinda deserves it and probably would've cheated on an uglier man for that Chad to begin with. We know this because of the amount of times simps and left wing men get cuckolded & taught to accept it's just natural selection when it happens to them and "she isn't worth your time", except she agrees because she's fucking someone far superior. Where is the justice there? Why does justice have to revolve around granting is more freedom (which most people don't deserve, because they're weak) other fixing other problems?
Also men are expected to be conscripted for war whenever it occurs. Isn't that a violation of our freedom? Well I don't care because it's a man's role to protect his family & wider civilisation as a whole.

[Taranis_Thunor]

Just like it's women's role to produce a family & take care of the domestic jobs.
When we take those roles away through cultural & sexual revolutions, civilisation starts to crumble, a man's career has less value and therefore 1 parents income can no longer provide for a whole family unit anymore.
We don't even need to take away women's rights to achieve this. If we banned abortions & contraception then women would have to make smarter choices about the men they sleep with. Suddenly the assholes out of the Chad (not all Chads are assholes) population have their desirability dropped because many of them make terrible fathers.

[MzAsh]

At this point you’re just frothing at the fact that women get to choose.

You keep saying these men don’t “deserve” to be lonely or have their bloodlines end. Deserve has nothing to do with it. Women choose who they fuck and reproduce with. If they don’t choose you, that is not an injustice. Nobody stole a wife from you. Nobody intercepted your government-issued pussy allotment.

And yes, unattractive women may have an easier time finding willing sexual partners than unattractive men. Welcome to nature. I’m not saying it’s fair. I’m saying nature doesn’t care about your personal theory of fairness.

Which is what makes all the “natural selection” talk so funny. You love biology right up until biology leaves some men without mates. Then suddenly we need to restructure society, lower women’s standards, discourage their independence, ban contraception, ban abortion and create enough pressure that these poor neglected men can finally “earn a wife.”

[MzAsh]

And no, I dont lack sympathy for lonely men. Loneliness sucks. Rejection sucks. Being undesirable sucks. None of that creates a claim on another person’s body. If women are not choosing you, then your options are to become more attractive to women or accept that not everyone gets picked. You don’t get to solve your dating problem by redesigning women’s freedom.

The “where is the justice?” line really sent me, though. There is no sexual marketplace Supreme Court. A woman sleeping with a hotter man than you think she deserves is not a civil rights violation against some uglier man standing nearby with a résumé.

You want women to face more consequences for sex because you think that will change which men they choose. Which is funny, because if reproduction becomes more consequential, my advice to women would be the exact opposite of what you want, become even more selective.

If pregnancy carries more risk, then “he’s a decent enough normie who wants a wife” is not suddenly persuasive. It makes the quality of the man matter more, not less. And men with the attitude you’re espousing certainly aren’t going to qualify.

That’s what this whole thing keeps circling back to. Women have enough autonomy now to say, “I would rather have nobody than have you,” and you absolutely cannot stand it.

So it becomes feminism. Inflated standards. Chad worship. Civilizational decline. Demographic collapse. Anything except the much simpler explanation…

Some women looked at some men and said no.

Tough shit. I don't know what else to tell you boo-boo

[Taranis_Thunor]

"None of that creates a claim on another person’s body. If women are not choosing you, then your options are to become more attractive to women or accept that not everyone gets picked." If that's a reality you accept you are sad, pathetic excuse of a man. Men are meant to lay claim to their lives but if most women are too busy fumbling about with deciding whether they want children or it gets in the way of career, that's an unfair unnatural advantage given to women. You know women never have to put up with this reality, and men desire a partner more then women do. This is why I called out women's lack of ability to even empathise with men on this, which is why women will never be able to fix the problem before more men adopt my logical position.
"You don’t get to solve your dating problem by redesigning women’s freedom." The ancient Indo-European nomads did that exact thing. Outcast "incel" men were encouraged to become warriors & raiders.
They went on to found colonies, claim new land and get wives, or they died trying which is a better fate then living to suffer with no purpose or meaning.
Look up the "Mannerbund" "Koryos" "Ulfhednar/Berserker" "Harii" "Fiana". Even the native Americans had these outcast predator skin wearing cults. They recruited in much the same way a modern group like ISIS does and a European equivalent of that may pop up soon if we carry on neglecting men.

[Taranis_Thunor]

These Indo-Europeans went to migrate from Ukraine and conquer Europe, Central Asia, Iran, India & Xianjang in China over time. This is because they had a strong patriarchal culture & marry customs that allowed them to assert dominance & property rights over the Neolithic farmer populations they dominated. Evidence of divine feminine earth mother cults rapidly drop with their expansion, as she was the passive role in their god "Dyeus Pater" (Sky father) mating with her to establish the world as we know it.

[Taranis_Thunor]

"The “where is the justice?” line really sent me, though. There is no sexual marketplace Supreme Court" True justice is about morals and karma not the judgement of a pen pushing judge.

[Taranis_Thunor]

Laws existed since before human writing even did and I am my own personal judge.
The reason Indo-Europeans dominated these other societies is because they were inferior.
"Which is funny, because if reproduction becomes more consequential, my advice to women would be the exact opposite of what you want, become even more selective." Not the complete opposite though. I did say women should select for better father's over fuckboys, but instead fuckboy & low IQ normies get all the girls over the superior, intelligent & higher quality autists. Those autists would also have their attractiveness elevated because women find men who are desired by other women more attractive (men who spend a long time as a virgin often end up with lots of women flirting with them once they do lose it, which is another bad female trait).
"And men with the attitude you’re espousing certainly aren’t going to qualify." Every man who understood the very things I am saying earlier then I did and ended up with relationships early in life beg to differ. Why do you think my views are similar to the views everyone outside the west holds if they aren't natural & inherently unattractive? If anything with the leftist arguments you can justify beating women more because men best each other all the time & if women are our equals why not extend that? But we know how that'd play out by watching transgender actual males compete in professional fighting against real women because we're not equal & our roles should reflect our strengths. Those roles are constantly challenged & undermined by feminists even once women had all the same rights as men (I'd argue they now have more).

[Taranis_Thunor]

"Women have enough autonomy now to say, “I would rather have nobody than have you,” and you absolutely cannot stand it." I agree and think that's why it was stupid men gave them equal rights to begin with.
'So it becomes feminism. Inflated standards. Chad worship. " I'm a Chud so that makes me have the same values as many Chad's but I'm too autistic for women to like. There's nothing women hate more then men who are intelligent even when those men are strong, broad, blonde & tall like me.
"Some women looked at some men and said no." Those women look at most men and say no. They'd rather sleep with other women because irresponsible promiscuous worldview inherent to the effeminate mind. That's why effeminate men are generally gross, disgusting sex pests.

Hope you enjoyed the history lesson on Indo-Europeans.

[MzAsh]

How do you plan to cope with the fact that none of this is going to happen?

I understand what you want. Women shouldn’t have been given equal rights. Feminism should disappear. Abortion and contraception should be banned. Women should marry younger, reproduce more, lower their standards and stop having enough independence to simply reject men they don’t want. We’ve established the fantasy.

But women aren’t going back.

You’re not getting the vote back from us. You’re not putting women back in the home. You’re not convincing women that their reproductive purpose is to preserve your tribe. You’re certainly not convincing women to start fucking men they don’t want because those men are lonely and their ancestral bloodlines might end.

And most importantly, women have learned that they’d rather be alone or with someone else is an available option. You’re not stuffing that knowledge back into the box.

So now what?

Because you can seethe about feminism, Chads, contraception, female standards and Indo-European warriors until the fucking sun burns out. Women are still going to wake up tomorrow morning with the ability to reject you.

You keep telling me what women need to change so that men like this can get wives. I’m asking what you plan to change when women don’t.

How do you intend to cope with living in a world where women remain free to say no?

[Zack-Bann]

These days it’s worse. It goes all the way up to like 22.


If a 22 year old woman dated a 32 year old man, suddenly he’s a full on predator and pedophile.


Even though a 22 year old woman has been an adult for 5 years and can make adult decisions making the relationship not at all predatory.


18 is tricky because people will say “just a few months ago she was a child”
But that’s just people are slow to accept change.


The fact is: 18 is the legal age for adulthood.


But let’s be real, between 16 and 18 most teenagers are already learning adult responsibility.
The diapers are long gone.
They also learn adult skills.
So when 18 rolls around a human, man or woman is theoretically an adult.


(There are exceptions that mature much slower but we can’t nitpick these things, otherwise why have a legal age at all. Just make adulthood a test you must pass or something)

[Badtobad]

Not theoretically, but literally they are adults

[Zack-Bann]

You’re right, I wrote that fast.

[LiamS95]

At 18 to 19 they're young women that are exploring some areas of life for the first time or trying to improve upon earlier experiences whether that be dating, relationships or sex. I have found that in those late teen years they get sick of the young guys just seeking their own pleasure without considering for the young woman's pleasure and thus it seems the 18 to 19 year old girls are looking for and are more intersted in slightly older guys.

[Badtobad]

That's true, much older guys too

[Levin]

If anything there's an inverse relationship with age and maturity with women. The older women are the worst in the office. The new starters, the young ones, are full of decorum, femininity and charm.

Plus they don't weigh 500 lbs.

[Badtobad]

Exactly

[Finchie40]

Probably because they see them as little girls’ to them , overlooking the fact that 18 is considered an adult , especially here in the USA , once you turn 18 , you are no longer your parents’ problem you are the laws problem

[ellllltr]

They are legally adults but they are also still technically teenagers. Eight-TEEN and nine-TEEN.

[Badtobad]

Yeah, it's ridiculous to call adults teenagers

[ellllltr]

18 and 19 year olds are both adults and teenagers at the same time.
Like people from China and both Chinese and Asian at the same time.

[Badtobad]

Yeah not little kids

[4ngelic]

18yos in general are infantilized, but I agree with it. They're stupid teenagers for the most part.

[Badtobad]

No boys are not infantalised so it makes no sense. And people do stupid things in their 20s too. It really depends on the person and not age.

[4ngelic]

Have to disagree 18yo boys are totally infantilized, even more than girls.

[andreasderjuengere]

Because they are, most likely.

But I do understand - when I was 18 myself, I felt as an adult, and invincible too...

You being 37, as your profile says, should see it as well :)

[Badtobad]

They are adults, that's a fact.

[Badtobad]

If you think they are innocent you are delusional and biased because they are women

[andreasderjuengere]

Remains to be seen who ''knows'' facts. Remains to be seen who's delusional. I apologize to not have offered the answers that you expected to see.

[Badtobad]

No it's obvious

[andreasderjuengere]

Sure. Have a good day, wise-arse

[Badtobad]

Yeah calling adults innocent hahaha

[DonaldDarko]

No idea lots of them are vile thots and predatory.

[Badtobad]

How predatory

[DonaldDarko]

Only fans is an example. It's oddly like a insect colony where the thot is some kind of queen. Instead of pheromones she uses sexual imagery and interaction to control a hive of simp worker drones. The internet gives her the means to assemble and control her hive. As in the insect world only some thots can become queens via charisma and stage presence.

[Xdressertiff]

Because the majority of them are still immature and do stupid things

[Badtobad]

So do boys yet they are treated like adults

[canamlusciouslad73]

Most aren't, but they aren't really adult women, just in between girlhood and womanhood.

[Badtobad]

They are adults. That's a fact.

[Taranis_Thunor]

Yeah lets ignore the fact women have always been expected to become mothers from a young age. Ignore the benefits for the child and just focus on her wellbeing.
We live in such an irresponsible culture it's no surprised that we're going demographically extinct.

[canamlusciouslad73]

@Taranis_Thunor I think thirty is the average age for today's newbie mothers.

[Badtobad]

It's way younger

[canamlusciouslad73]

Would you club an 18-year-old chick?

[Badtobad]

Why are you asking

[Taranis_Thunor]

Yeah I'm sure out anti-🤍 & Marxist feminist establishment has nothing to do with that.

[canamlusciouslad73]

You say 18-year-old chicks are women, so you can legally club them.

[Badtobad]

@canamlusciouslad73 they are women, that's a fact.

You call 18 year old boys who like older women men so you are just a hypocrite and make no sense

[Taranis_Thunor]

Yeah it's funny how it's suddenly okay for a 30 year old woman to sleep with an 18 year old man. We live in a systemically matriarchal nannystate so I guess it makes sense.

[Laulenke]

Actually I don’t like thst phrase I prefer “young lady” myself

[Badtobad]

Me too

[msc545]

Mostly because at 18 women are not really adults. The same applies to men.

[Badtobad]

But men are not treated like little boys, but adults, so yes, girls are adults too. It's a fact.

[Mountein]

Sometimes girls aged 19–20 can be more open-minded than older people; they’re not necessarily naive

[Badtobad]

Exactly

[Taranis_Thunor]

You are very naive yourself.

[liltitslove]

I don't know why they think,
and adult isn't innocent nor little

[Badtobad]

Exactly

[MasterKS]

Just showcase not in real.

[Badtobad]

They literally treat them like that

[loveslongnails]

Do you have a real point here?

[Badtobad]

What do you mean

[Cidknee]

Take a chill little girl!

[Badtobad]

You are trying to wind me up lol

[Cidknee]

😂🕺

[6942Dantheman]

Because it's naughty.

[Badtobad]

That's weird

[Paige2006]

Good question

[Taranis_Thunor]

Cause foids