Does voting have consequences?

[moddy_the_mod]

Looks like the 'blue wave' brought in the red tide

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US markets cratered on November 5, 2026, after Democrats won majorities in both the House and Senate on November 4, flipping seats in states like Texas and Kansas. The S&P 500 shed over 2.5% and $2 trillion in market value, while the Nasdaq 100 neared a 5.5% drop, with tech giants like Tesla, AMD, and Nvidia leading the rout amid fears of tighter AI and data-center regulations. Crypto followed suit, with Bitcoin dipping below $77,000 and over $800 million in positions liquidated, as investors sh

[WhiteSteve]

The point of life and America isn’t and should never be “business” and “money.” That’s kind of what steers us into our worst decisions as a country, this relentless chase for high standard of living. These are the wrong goals for humanity to have, and anything that curbs it is a good thing, broadly speaking. We can’t run the country based around what’s going to create the friendliest environment for the 1% to make money.

We could cut our standard of living by 50% and be totally fine. I’m not saying we need to; I’m just saying “but that would be bad for business” just CAN’T be the reason we do or don’t do things.

One of the scariest things about MAGA is this catering to the billionaire class. These are not good people with good intentions; the majority of them seem to want to be comic book supervillains. I don’t trust any of these people as far as I can throw them: Elon, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, Sam Altman…. bad guys with bad intentions, who MUST be stopped.

AI is potentially super dangerous, and needs to be HEAVILY regulated. Regulations are a good thing. People driven by the pursuit of money can’t be trusted to make sound decisions.

The market will rebound. If you’re not 80 years old, you don’t really need to worry. But we really need to get away from this mentality of “but what if we didn’t make the most money possible at all times?”

[moddy_the_mod]

lol. ok you first. Donate half of what you have. I'll wait.

And this is utter nonsense about the billionaire class. You're not a loser because of billionaires.

Meanwhile Elon is producing actual significant improvements to peoples lives and has created 1000s of millionaires while you're whining on the internet.

[WhiteSteve]

I’m not a loser, period. I’m rich, homey😂 But being rich isn’t what we should be chasing, morally and philosophically speaking.

Elon doesn’t invent anything, you know that, right? He’s not the engineer designing the stuff, lmao. I feel like people think he’s this great inventor of our time or something, lmao. He bankrolls it, he’s not the brains.

I expected your first response, low-hanging fruit. I bet you tell people if they don’t like America to move out, too, lmfao. It’s not about giving anything up. It’s about what we’re chasing and what we’ve decided the floor has to be. That’s a bigger conversation that I don’t really have the time or desire to have right now, but I think that’s why we’re all ultimately lost as humans

[moddy_the_mod]

So I'll wait for you to show proof that you donated half your net worth to charity, and tell your boss that you only need half your salary.

And once again, he's creating millionaires, revolutionizing space flight, protecting free speech in America, and employing thousands. When you can do that let me know.

[WhiteSteve]

I literally just explained myself and I’m not going to do it again. I’m sorry you guys got wiped out on Tuesday and it’s all coming crashing down for your movement, reminding you that you are, in fact, still the minority. I’m sure that’s very difficult to process. I think I’m good from here, though. Take care✌️

[moddy_the_mod]

Ah, so we won't see you actually live a life not devoted to money. You're just a bloviating hypocrite. I will enjoy having you dingalings watch every idea get vetoed for the next two years.

[WhiteSteve]

Great stuff. TAKE CARE✌️

[Chazmatazz269]

Seems to me that he pretty clearly demonstrated that you’re a hypocrite. Just like every other liberal idiot, you propose this fantastical utopia where everyone except YOU has to sacrifice for YOUR ideals. Yet any suggestion that you should sacrifice for our ideals is “fascist”. Right?
It’s also noteworthy that you didn’t name George Soros, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, or any of the dozens of other democrat billionaires and millionaires who are rigging the system to their benefit. You trust them, right?
Would a single one of your values survive the party swap, mate? Are you openly hypocritical, or just too dumb to realize that anyone with an IQ over 70 can see through your BS? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, you’re “rich” alright. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[WhiteSteve]

@Chazmatazz269 Lmao, neither of you can read. I clearly posed the standard of living cut as a hypothetical to just illustrate that we’re not on the brink of starvation, so we don’t need to be steered by it. We have room to give. And if we ALL collectively agreed to do that, I’d be on board. Him asking me to just do it on my own, which would make no difference, is being deliberately obtuse at best, and is stupid at worst.

Incidentally, Elon has spent more money in the last few years than George Soros has spent in total. Elon is everything for the right that the right claims Soros is for the left. Everything you guys say is projection, so your accusations just tell on yourselves.

[moddy_the_mod]

Right. But all your pontificating is a distraction from the fact that these socialists you support brought misery to the country in record speed.

[WhiteSteve]

Name the specific socialists and name the specific actions of them that brought misery to the country in record speed

[Anonymous]

Yes. But so does NOT voting. No matter what the American people do they'll lose when it comes to voting. But i wouldn't smash the panic button just yet. I was selling off 1% of my portfolio the day before the market drop. Because i knew a correction was coming just at the knowledge that Dummycrats won. The correction was likely inevitible anyhow. But the election of the Dims signaled clear policy change if they can swing it. And the market reacts to everything. The tech market had to/has to correct eventually. It can't keep doing what it's doing indefinitely. This is why you've seen money start to flood black into blue chip stocks. I'm not a flash in the pan investor. I'm much more about the longterm. The bulk of my holdings are energy stocks. Still i've taken advantage of the spikes all year. I've sold about 25% of my energy stocks overall. But nearly everytime i've bought the dip elsewhere. Google is probably the biggest investment i've made this year. Because again, i'm all about the longterm. Google is a good investment longterm at it's current price.

[lilBigPotato]

Oh no... Big tech might have to take some responsibility in the future which will make them only billions instead of bazillions in profit? You can't imagine how sad I'm feeling for their shareholders... 💩

[moddy_the_mod]

It’s amazing how little actual intelligence you put into your reply.

[lilBigPotato]

Person too stupid to understand my post complains about a lack of intelligence... I thought my post is funny but yours is even funnier. Congratulations, you beat me.

[moddy_the_mod]

I guess if you’re brain is rotted in TikTok you’d think you’re funny. The rest of us think you’re a dumb bitch.

[lilBigPotato]

"if you’re brain is rotted in TikTok"

Calling me dumb after writing that sentence is a bold move.
Anyway, do you have any arguments on the actual topic or the point I've tried to make with my opinion? If not then this is a waste of time.

[moddy_the_mod]

you don’t have a point because you lack a fundamental understanding of who the shareholders of a company are

[lilBigPotato]

I do know and I'm even indirectly one myself because I have a world ETF. But it doesn't matter. Big tech is making huge profits on the back of regular people and the market is overvalued anyway. With democrats, regulations might get stricter, which might lower profits, which people don't like so they sell, market goes down. So yes voting has consequences but you can't judge this from a single day. In a month it might look already different again. Anyway, my point of stricter regulations might be coming which is good and more important than the profit of some people.

[moddy_the_mod]

That’s the beauty of socialism. You always spread misery.

“Big tech” is making profits because people like using the products they produce. That’s why they make profits. Not “on the backs” of the regular people.

Those “regular people” are seeing their wealth evaporate because you think they were making too much. Whose gonna pay for your dumb social programs?

[lilBigPotato]

Why is the counter argument for everything always socialism (or communism) for some Americans? 🙄
Seems to be an allergy, you should get it checked from a doctor.

Nothing what I've said has anything to do with socialism. I talk about regulations, not taxes. Do you know the difference? You have massive datacenters built everywhere, partly even illegally, requiring massive amounts of energy, causing a lot of air and noise pollution. A lot of consumer electronics and other products get more and more expensive because of the AI craze and you and me need to pay that. Cost of living is one of the main reasons of this blue wave, and big tech is contributing to these high costs. And you talk about socialism... You have no clue what you're talking about. This is a waste of time.

I have enough of this, I'm out 👋

[moddy_the_mod]

lol. Regulations always lower costs right?

[LazerBean]

Yep. The blue people don't care though because they are too stupid and broke to invest.

[Mark_Est]

Illusion of choice. While one side is clearly worse than the other.

Its no secret who wants open borders.

How good is that for americans?

Say you have 100 people, 110 jobs, 110 houses, in simple terms.

Now you have 130 people, 113 jobs maybe, 110 houses. And many of the higher paid locals get fired and swapped for low paid immigrant/illegals.

So now you also have high demand for houses, but low supply. And government uses your money to pay for randoms.

Clearly this system will collapse.

You dont have to even understand 3rd grade math.

Start with the basic.

[Chazmatazz269]

There is not now nor has there ever been a shortage of homes in the US. There are enough vacant homes in the US that we could give every homeless family FOUR, and there’d still be empty homes left over.

[FreyaRed]

5-10% isn't that bad if you consider this a foam made of million bubbles.

[moddy_the_mod]

Um. the market lost 2.5 trillion.

[FreyaRed]

This money never existed in reality beforehand.

[moddy_the_mod]

Well it actually did. What reality do you live in?

[FreyaRed]

If you make a coffee and you print a price tag of 3000 $ for this coffee but you can't sell it, that doesn't mean you lost 3000 $.

[moddy_the_mod]

Um. That's a stupid analogy. And in no way related to how the markets work.

[exitseven]

I was shocked at the markets yesterday but it looks like investors had a day to think about how bad this will be,.

[DonaldDarko]

Voting surely does have consequences. How you act in office does as well.

[Anonymous]

The dow jumped 1500 points and crude oil dropped dramatically. You'd be giving Trump credit for it the other way around so thank you Democrats!

[moddy_the_mod]

Red isn't good, cupcake. You might not know that if you've never had investments Crude oil dropped dramatically because the globalists got their wish so they can stop artificially inflating the cost.

[moddy_the_mod]

And yeah, Trump did this: President Donald J. Trump just crushed the U. S. trade deficit, slashing it from $136 billion to just $29.4 billion — the lowest in nearly 20 years.