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For me, it's laziness... lack of motivation... like people who stay in the US and still can't speak English. Or people who spend their entire lives on food stamps and welfare... free money their entire lives
Willful ignorance and manipulation. I'm pretty sure what you spoke of or the examples of it... both apply to them. There is a certain taste of some types of evils humans do that is just... can't we ship them to another country or something. It sucks to see one group of people stuggle while trying to abide to exist meanwhile this other group just got a new Lexus and nobody works, food is paid for, free housing and they're living a communist dream and piss it away for other bad habits with no changes incoming.
What you talk about isn't laziness or lack of motivation. It's selfish lack of conscience. A good form of being lazy is what motivates to invent and innovate. ㅤ
I can understand why you say that. I have thought that should be considered selfish at one point too
Shortly before you asked this question, i myself was thinking, just how important hate is. Hate is part of morality. Yesterday (not today) i woke up from a nightmare of my father, with binoculars far away finding which room I'm in, then climbing up to the 4th storey and trying to enter the window, after I'd smash his head against the wall repeatedly until he falls, he just continued stalking me as if nothing happened.
Weird dream. But i noticed: the things he did to us that did make me have these nightmares, i never hated him enough for it. He was always trash, i saw him as a subhuman, but i never hated. Which is bad. I should actively hate it. Because if i don't? Surprise, i act like him. My nervous system accepts that his bullshit is normal, the way of life. I must hate it, willingly, actively feel bad. And if i do then i notice myself stopping resembling him. It also stops the scapegoating that i used to do when the hate wasn't directed at him.
So yeah, i think hate and lookinf down is very important. If we dont direct it where it belongs, it might slip out. But I'm no psychologist. I don't even think psychologists have any of it figured out, neither have i.
@nuclear_warhead
Very smart explanation. But overall, I find that people tend to hate those who are different from them. For example, it takes a morally corrupt person to like another morally corrupt person. It takes a disgusting dirty person to respect another dirty person. It takes a lazy person go respect another lazy person. There is a saying birds of the same feathers flock together. This holds true for humans too
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People who speak with certainty about things that they know nothing about. They are incapable of changing their minds due to ideological beliefs. It's best to not engage with such people.
Lying. People who lie to me don't deserve my respect, with the possible exception of "little white lies".
Also, people who think $10 a day to feed the needy is too much.
There’s always going to be bums and freeloaders, get on with your life already and stop being mad about it. Your anger and resentment accomplishes nothing and just ruins your day
what makes you think im mad about it? i just don't like them
just doing anything that i wouldn't do causes me to look down on them. that's why i don't like having friends and meeting people.
I try not to look down on people, but I don’t like it either what you’re describing. And I don’t like rude entitled people
some people just have clear views of good or bad in this world. you may not understand cuz you simply don't have this
so you don't think there is anything wrong with being lazy?
and you are not gonna look down on someone who is so incredibly lazy and selfish that he'd rather live off of free money, aka welfare/food stamps, for his entire life by hard working tax payers financially supporting him?
are laziness and extreme selfishness respectable traits? so much that you can't look down on such bad people?
@iron_man
I'm just breaking down the logic for you.
If you can't look down on such people, it means you don't see extreme laziness as bad traits.
And this has nothing to do with me being a bad person. If you have ridiculously terrible traits that I can't respect, then I will look down on you. Nothing wrong with that.
@iron_man
give someone who has spent 30 years doing nothing a chance? he's already had a chance! 30 years!!! how much longer does he need?
you're unreasonable. you make no sense.
even 10 years is too long
nobody is making things up, bro. I'm just trying to logically reason with you, which is something you are desperately trying to avoid.
And the pattern that I have noticed on here is that most GAG users say things that don't make any sense.
@iron_man
I'm not trying to make problems.
I'm just trying to have you explain your logic.
I don't know why you can't just explain yourself to me
I didn't see you give me any response to my last argument.
you are accusing me of causing problems, when in reality, you are the one refusing to explain yourself and reason with me at all. I think you're the one causing problems.
And if you can't reason with me or don't want to... that alone tells me everything already.
don't reply back if you don't intend on having a fair discussion.
@iron_man
do you know how hard I had to fight myself out of poverty? like so many others?
I can also never go get myself an education, only work 20 hours a week and go on welfare.
I actually grew up under poverty on welfare so I know this population well. My parents were actually one of them. I have lined up at welfare offices myself to help my parents who don't still don't speak English after 35 years here, on helping them out an application form for SNAP
I know this population well and trust me when I say this, 90% of these people are at welfare offices simply because they don't want to work or work as little as possible.
I'm not turning up my nose on them. I actually don't like these people.
typo: I can also never go get myself an education, only work 20 hours a *month* and go on welfare.
we don't need to. If we can understand each other well enough on here, there is no need to move anywhere else.
@iron_man
I still can't understand how your stance makes any sense. There is no step by step logic to it. I just don't get it. It's like you know these people are terrible individuals but you still see them as good.
It's like for you... it's wrong to see terrible people as they are. As if there is a requirement that you should never see terrible people as terrible.
@iron_man
Only kids who failed in high school join the marine corps. Kids who work hard and did well in school, have high IQs would never be seen anywhere near the military
@iron_man
And it's been this way even 80 years ago, where it's mostly very troubled kids, failures who tend to join.
I did well in school by working hard. That's part of the reason why I'm not under poverty now. It actually takes real hard work to get out of poverty. Am I a hot shot? Compared to the ones on welfare who never worked hard in school, YES!
The difference between you and Ironman is that he is not filled with anger and resentment twards these people. He can still disagree with their lifestyle choices, but it’s really no sweat off his back. It hasn’t really affected his life, so why should he be so worried about what other people do? He shouldn’t, so he isn’t.
@Staximus
Disliking bad people has nothing to do with "worrying" about them. Respect is earned. I don't blindly give it out to people who don't deserve it.
@Staximus @iron_man
I kinda figured you both out by now. You both can't imagine looking down on laziness because hard work isn't part of your values. Chances are you both are pretty lazy as well, which is why you both are so triggered by my question.
@Staximus @iron_man
Actions speak louder than words. There's no reason why a hardworking person would be so triggered by this question
Just cus you lie, doesn't mean it's true
I think you have been the one trolling here. When I tried to have a reasonable discussion with you, you desperately tried to avoid it and instead called me random insults and accusations.
You just mad cus you know you're lazy yourself.
It takes a lazy person to defend a lazy person.
@iron_man
u No random insults, but you are a troll I tried to have a good positive outlook, but you kept pushing and pushing and wanted me to get on the same page as you and Crush those people that were homeless or on a welfare or that weren’t working and every person is different. I’m not gonna crush somebody because they are not working. There could be a reasons behind it or they’re trying to get a job, but you seem the type of person where you want to hand their asses to them no matter what
@iron_man
Calling me Random insults doesn't make my stance less valid.
I will say it again to you. It takes a lazy person to defend a lazy person.
@iron_man
You can't motivate lazy people. Often times laziness is a character trait that can't be changed. If someone has chose not to work for 10 years, there is a high chance they won't ever work hard their entire lives. No I won't give them more chances, they're already had 10 years chance. How much longer do you need?
@iron_man
Whether or not someone is lazy or hardworking, its an in born trait that can't be changed, especially in adulthood. Ambition is something you are born with. I have been hardworking at 12 years old, I'm still hardworking at 30. It largely doesn't change
@iron_man
That's like saying forgiving a sadistically evil person who has enjoyed killing people for 30 years, hoping there is still some sort of "good" in them and that one day they will suddenly magically turn Into a great person.
He was born evil. It'll never change
@iron_man
In all honesty, I think you are just looking for excuses to defend them. I'm 100% sure you are one of those lazies. Not saying this as an insult. Just the truth.
Really not my fault my question offenses you. I had no idea you were one of those ladies
@iron_man @staximus
you're the one on here playing games, throwing around random insults, avoiding any logical debate or discussion. Every time I tried having a logical discussion with you, you try desperately to evade it and started to throw insults at me.
take a look at everything you have written above.
and you still have the audacity to call me the troll or that I'm the one playing games.
you should be apologizing
@iron_man
but i can totally understand why you would desperately evade a logical discussion with me because you very well that your stance makes absolutely no logical sense. That's why you would avoid debating with me at all costs but rather launch a never ending tirade of insults against me.
you believe that if you hurl enough insults, then you will win the debate.
that's not how it works.
why would i need to tell who i am to an obvious disrespectful troll, like you?
@iron_man
now you are lying and pretending that you never insulted me. are you really that pathetic? anyone can read what you wrote above and they will know the truth.
I'm not exaggerating or making things up... that's just part of having a logical discussion. Because they're true real life examples of folks on welfare. These folks usually aren't on welfare temporarily, when they go on, they never tend to get off. Most of them never tried to get an education, work part time, or have 7 babies with 7 different baby daddies. I know these people because I grew up in a building filled with them.
@iron_man
yea that's right, you have no logical reply to anything I've said in my last comment. You have no desire to reason at all. It already speaks volume about what your intentions actually are.
the only thing you talk about is questioning who i am , throwing insults at me and desperately avoid a logical discussion.
you're the one trolling around here, not me.
u That’s it that’s not true. You had avoided my question last night and today. You want me to slam the innocent for people that have problems and disabilities and you show them no mercy what kind of character are you? You think everybody is lazy and doesn’t wanna work that just lays around for 10 years unbelievable not true. I’m glad you’re not a prosecutor you would be horrible. Anyway , you’re wasting my time going through all these comments. Have a nice night ma’am. I’m not coming back here anymore.
@iron_man
since when was this question about people who have disabilities?
when will you just stop trolling?
[You think everybody is lazy and doesn’t wanna work that just lays around for 10 years unbelievable not true.]
because most of these people do lay around for 10 years doing nothing.
my parents have been in the US for 35 years and still haven't learned English.
people similar to you
it takes a lazy person to defend a lazy person
@iron_man
yea... you keep saying you want to leave because you know you can't logically argue with me. I make too much sense and it scares you. that's why you keep trying to evade the discussion.
@iron_man
see? another insult? because you can't have a logical discussion with me so you insult me then scurry away
@iron_man
this is my 6th time begging you to have a logical discussion with me. how many more times do i need to beg?
because you clearly don't want a logical discussion with me
because you know you can't argue with me. I just make too much sense.
but if you don't wanna debate, then that's ok. I will just move on.
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@iron_man
I'm not here to play games with you. I'm here to have a reasonable discussion about the topic. If you are just looking to troll... go elsewhere.
u No, I wanna debate you in private message. But have a friendly debate. If you can’t send messages because you’re too low your level, you can follow me and I’ll send you a message and you can message me back. I’m a moderator. I can’t get into your level in an open thread like this. I hope you understand.
@iron_man
because you're not gonna debate me in private message?
if you have been avoiding a debate on here, what makes me think you will debate me in private message?
you sound really pathetic.
@iron_man
listen man, I usually never get into this type of confrontation with decent people on here. I only get into this type of stuff when I see disordered people who spew out non sense. And after a long conversation with you, I can totally tell you aren't a decent person. Very immature, pathetic, lazy, disordered.
u What else am I gonna do in private message? The whole point of going to private messages is to debate the question you’re assuming things again are you the Turkish girl following me around? If you wanna talk in private message will debate but if you put it on this question, I’m gonna remove it because it’s personal private stuff and I don’t wanna play games.
@iron_man
why would I give you the privilege of private messaging me if you have been so disrespectful to me on here?
@iron_man
is it because you want to say things that you're too ashamed that the other GAG users might see?
@iron_man
nervous about talking to you? i don't even respect you enough to be nervous
@Staximus
it's not my fault you're lazy bro. you wouldn't have been offended if you weren't.
@iron_man
refuse a logical discussion and throwing insults around again... there you go... iron man's classic move when he's busted
@Staximus
you're the one who is triggered, not me. because you're lazy
Hypocritical people who say one thing and attack others for something, then do the exact same thing they criticize every day and think we don’t know when they are doing it.
If I were in the balcony and they were in the orchestra seats.
I don't look down on people. There may be a reason other than laziness that afflicts them. How could I know? If they are lazy it's not I they hurt.
I don't see how my life would be improved by doing that so I try to avoid doing it.
If they were shorter than me. And to be fair, that's most people.🤣
If I was much taller than they were
You explaining your question as I read it.
judgmental people like you.
If they’re disrespectful or fucken stupid
If they're shorter.
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