MGTOW....Misogyny? Small penis? Or common sense?

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I have decided to take take this course of action. It is not due to a lack of dating/sex that lead to this conclusion, more or less my experiences. Todays western woman has become exceedingly narcissistic, hypergamous, materialistic, egotistical, with an inflated sense of entitlement. I constantly hear "where have all the good/real men gone?". I can tell you. The toxic dating scene in America has effectively run us off. Those men who have at least two brain cells to rub together have essentially conducted a cost/benefit analysis, and concluded that in general women, marriage, and even sex is NOT worth the trouble that comes with it. Nowadays, looking at a woman for too long or even acknowledging her beauty constitutes sexual harassment. A woman can consent to group sex with multiple men, then file a rape charge due to guilt, remorse, or her husband/boyfriend finding out. Marriage is even worse. A man spends his life savings on a lavish wedding, a diamond ring and a house for a woman. Then down the road, she wants to divorce him because A)he doesn't make enough money B) he makes enough money, but he works long hours and doesn't have enough time for her, C) she became bored with him. Now there are some men who are alcoholic/abusive, but that's rarely the case in divorce hearings. If half of marriages end in divorce, and 70% of those divorces initiated by women, and only 13% are due to abuse/alcoholism, what does that tell you? Not worth it. Compounded by the fact the wife ALWAYS gets everything during the divorce...definitely not worth it. Some of you may say "youre not a real man because a real man would accept that its the way our society works". I say bullshit. A real man won't simply lay down and take shit because society tells him to do so. Why is it women always say "men think with their penises" but when a man stops thinking with his penis and starts using his brain, then decides women are no longer worth it, they either cry misogyny or small penis? Now...let the misogyny/small penis/man-up insults and rants commence in 3...2...1

LoveandWisdom · Accepted Answer

I totally agree with you on that more and more woman are becoming "exceedingly narcissistic, hypergamous, materialistic, egotistical, with an inflated sense of entitlement" and the woman who try to be good and self-sacrificing to their partners are the ones that are most likely to get dumped for a woman who has those qualities. If a woman really does care about a guy she will help him with paying the wedding ring, the house, help to save up for there children, and support him in his work.

The reason that more woman are becoming all of the bad qualities you mentioned earlier has to due with the woman's rights movement promoting more freedom to woman but as a result most woman have used it for purposes of self-gain without thinking about how their actions will affect not only the man but their entire household. As it is society puts on to many expectations for the man and it makes life very difficult for them, less woman are going to church and the state itself is not promoting religion which is the basis of morals and integrity which is basically what is causing relationships in society to become more degraded and allowing people to becoming more selfish and self-centered.

To me it does not matter how much a guy makes as long as both of us make enough money to pay for the household bills. Woman who care more about money are the ones that have no moral integrity and are not worth being pursued in the first place. It is these woman who put on an act to get married and once married they want a divorce. From personal experience, I have seen what money does to people; it makes them self-centered, self-absorbed, the only time they do help you is if you repay them back doubled but even than they hold it against you, and they show little love or concern for their family and friends, etc.

People should look at a persons inner beauty first and not judge the person by their outer beauty. Outer beauty fades over time as we age physically and what is left is inner beauty. When everyone is younger, sex is a big issue but it should no longer matter when you are old due to the physical body being able not to function as well as it did when it was younger. Not only that but their is more then one way to connect with someone other than sex. You can connect with them at a spiritual, emotional, mental, and intellectual level so why should sex at a physical level matter all the time and why do woman make a big deal about it when other things can be explored?

xzinax2 · Accepted Answer

thing is,all those claims are bullshit,and yes,it is misogyny-but I have no problem with men swearing off women-i do have a problem with ''men going their own way'' actually meaning ''let's attack women''. MRA's have filed false rape charges,some are admitted rapists,have harassed women with death and rape threats,made up shit like the stuff you've listed-just...stop. no one gives a shit if you date women or not,you won't be missed,just leave us the fuck alone.

RationalLioness · Accepted Answer

I agree with @UlsterScot.

The many boys that I've met in this group come off as pathetic and whiny. And the whole purpose of the group is inane to me because that's what a lot of guys do ANYWAY. They live their life for themselves as everyone should.

Some of the reasons listed are sound and I agree with. But then others are sexist and irrational.

DaBigZilla · Accepted Answer

Except from a leading MGTOW blog: sheddingoftheego. com/? p=471
"Third-Wave Feminism appeared in 1992 (Head), following the end of the Cold War, and has been systematically attacking men and masculinity from all fronts. In response to these misandric developments, MGTOW has sprung up. The Men’s Rights Movement (MRM) has been around since the 1920s in one form or another (Wikipedia), and has accomplished nothing in terms of stemming the tide of gynocentric laws, and the diminishing rights and protections of men. In contrast, MGTOW has only been around since 2004 (A Voice for Men), but in its original form (embodied in the “MGTOW Manifesto), was still an arm of the Men’s Rights Movement, seeking to instill masculinity in men, femininity in women, and promote traditional gender roles (MGTOW Manifesto).

MGTOW shifted between 2009 and 2012, and expanded its focus from merely an anti-Feminist Conservative movement to one that examines female nature as the underlying basis of Feminism. The result was a change from a movement that sought to reform women by fighting Feminism in favor of traditional femininity, to one that rejected women as a whole, and walked away from relationships and institutions such as marriage that exploit men as the disposable utilities of women (Barbarossa, 2012)."

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Declaring yourself mgtow in the presence of women will almost always trigger women's innate in-group bias... a bias that is measurably much weaker in men.

Most women cannot react to this sensibly. Even while reading this, most women will become personally defensive at the idea of women in general having an in group bias... even after they google it and read the evidence. Irony.

The drop in marriage rates is the same, now you have feminist bloggers dumping hoe the marriage rate drop is actually the choice of women... but we all know what happens to women when they hit the wall.

Mgtow is sensible because of that alone... most women cannot examine their own group behavior because of that bias, much less the position men are in regarding relationships.

Anonymous · Answer

MRAs, MGTOW, they're just a knee jerk reaction to feminism and the fact that the pendulum swung waaaaay too far in that direction. It's certainly understandable that men would be pissed off about that but two wrongs don't make a right, which is why I don't support MRA / MGTOW any more than I do today's feminism.

I used to support feminism when it stood for something valid, but today it is nothing more than a hate machine that divides the genders rather than trying to bring them together and support mutual love and respect. Although MRA and MGTOW have more valid concerns today than feminism, the time has come to turn our backs on groups who advocate for one gender only.

iPood · Answer

I wish you the best of luck on your solo journey. I see nothing wrong with MGTOW, for whatever their reasons may be. To me it's no different than women who step out of the dating scene. To each his (or her) own.

Anonymous · Answer

I agree with a lot of what you say. Certainly marriage is no longer worth it. A serious relationship is no longer worth it to any guy who can get casual sex. I would never have gang-bang a woman for the reason you mentioned: it would be so easy to accuse the men involved of rape. The men will be presumed to be monsters anyway, even if there is no evidence of rape.

I wish you the best. I'm tempted to go that way myself. Most women are very disappointing.

UlsterScot · Answer

I'm sympathetic to some of its reasoning but it reads like the male version of radical feminism.  Angry retreat.

Trayus · Answer

In the grand scheme of things, it's common sense. Bitter, common sense unfortunately. But yes, it's a necessary movement to end the feminist dogma. If anyone has a question as to where it will end, look at Japan now, concerning 'herbivore men', their birthrate, and their economy.

Vandal · Answer

Good for you, man. MGTOW FTW Check out Barbarossaaaa's vids on YouTube. ...and stardusks, thatcynicalcynicism's, spetsnaz's, manwomanmyth's etc. Plenty of MGTOW advice there.

G_GTom · Answer

Dude, set your own terms or play the game long enough to sleep with them and then dump them.

Youcannotbeserious · Answer

MGTOW's aren't welcome around me or any self respecting person.

Anonymous · Answer

A MGTOW Lesson. Not directed at OP.

If you have to come on here and ask for approval from not just men, but women especially, then sorry pal, you aren't a MGTOW. You're too afraid what people will think of you, and only do what people tell you is ok. In short, you are a sheep. Start thinking for yourself before you start thinking about MGTOW.

havingfun101 · Answer

It is true, that women's own group preference is as prevalent, as the phrase "not all women are like that!" When no one is listening, I eventually stop speaking... thus the MGTOW!

yaddayaddayadda02 · Answer

Whatever makes you happy.

Anonymous · Answer

Another one:  Hating incels

Anonymous · Answer

Eh, women go solo too. It's whatever I guess . As long you don't harm any woman(like mras threaten to do) go solo.

Anonymous · Answer

No doubt that they bacame that because they couldn't attract women. they are just angry guys who blames women to not date them

katiesmuff · Answer

That solo journey should be a hoot for you!

BayHarborButcher · Answer

Sounds like a good idea.

Anonymous · Answer

How much you wanna bet best opinion is the asker?

MGTOW....Misogyny? Small penis? Or common sense?

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