Polls: Society & Politics

Meaning…our anti-immigrant stance is actually what’s costing us trillions. Not illegal immigrants?

Because the major cost is having massive agencies like ICE and Customs & Border Protection. Building a stupid wall. And trying to arrest and deport quotas of illegals who will just turn around and come back probably because their families are still here.

Seriously, we could have an “open door” policy, give each immigrant a tax form to be legal. And cash in loads on their paychecks. Do you think they want to be illegal? And get taken advantage of?

I am seeing a lot of ignorant people posting and thinking that Hamas = Palestine.

Hamas rules Palestine. Hamas was voted in by Palestinians. Hamas enjoyed popular support by Palestinians (not sure about that right now though). But Hamas is NOT Palestine.

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Period. Palestinians are an ethnicity and a regional group of people.

Assuming that all Palestinians are and/or support Hamas is like saying ALL Germans in WW2 were Nazis. Of course Nazi ideology dominated Germany but many Germans were against it (and there was internal rebellion).

But if you can’t denounce what Hamas did on Oct 6th you are a terrorist sympathizer and likely an anti semite. There is absolutely no way around that.

And all the collateral damage (innocent Palestinians being killed) right now is 100% the fault of Hamas. They are TELLING Palestinians to stay out when Israel is telling them to leave. Israel had no choice to do this. Not because they were attacked but if they show any weakness then Hezbollah will attack them from the North which will could eventually turn into a world war.

Also for the record I do NOT believe an innocent Israeli civilian’s life is worth more than an innocent Palestinian’s life. Is sickening and horrifying that so many innocent lives in the Gaza Strip are being lost.

But what disgusts and horrifies me is how many westerners are openly supporting Hamas right now. They aren’t even making the distinction between the Palestinian people’s freedom cause vs. the actions of a terrorist organization.

At best you are willfully ignorant if you support Hamas and don’t know all the facts. But we are observing rising anti semitism from western leftists now. It’s greatest irony is they are usually the ones that like to call other people they don’t like “Nazis”.

I really hate life. And not just my life personally, I hate the notion of existence in this steaming pile of shit world we live in. The cost of every day essentials like housing, healthcare, food, gas just makes sick to my stomach. The way humans treat each other is absolutely appalling. Unnecessary insults like incel, femcel, simp, and pick me are grade A examples of what a contemptible species humans are. We are the only ones who have to pay to exist in this world. Humans are more sophisticated than all other species , yet somehow we still live by social Darwinistic survival of the fittest mindset. We find anything and everything to fight each other about. You don’t think the same way I do, therefore you’re a stupid piece of trash and evil!! This is the tip of the iceberg on what is wrong with our world. I could write a novel on how much I detest the human species, and being a part of them.

I've always been more conservative since the 2016 election. Around that time, I saw that most people didn't care about politics in my age group, but I still saw how troubled we all were, many of my classmates doing drugs in the bathroom, drinking and engaging in casual sex at parties.

Then after the election, everyone's political beliefs became something that was no longer a secret, and it started to become easy to guess someone's political beliefs based on their attitude and appearance.

Young people have always had a strong liberal lean, but gen z is the most far left in history, with more than 67% being liberal. Twitter and TikTok have also taken over as media outlets became so incredibly dishonest in their reporting. Now all major corporations are trying to force liberal beliefs on everyone, and pop culture is doing the same.

I won't be pushed into any belief which is not true to me, and my only loyalty is to what is right. As such, I will never lie nor withhold my beliefs when asked, although my appearance already gives away that I'm conservative given that I'm lean, have short hair, and I dress in normal colors.

More and more, I see extremism gripping gen Z, and immaturity still running rampant in people only a few years younger than me. They also look decades younger than I and very few of them have ever worked a job. Glorification of gang violence, condemnation of law enforcement, support for the stripping of our constitutional rights by the federal government, and dehumanization of political dissidents has made me lose faith in Gen Z.

It makes me happier that I'm assumed to be older than I am, because I'd sure hate to be put in the same bucket as other zoomers. I've seen that the world hardly ever changes for the better and I see gen z as potentially the dumbest and most destructive generation in human history.

Is there any hope left for generation z?

To stop the bloodshed now...

I'm tired of all the death and human suffering, I no longer wish to live in the "Knowledge of Good and Evil". Since people cannot get along and coopeate, a "No state solution" is proposed, with migration plan for all. Would you accept this solution to be proposed, in concept, yes or no.

Isreal was promised a holy land. We change this Holy land to a new location, specified as the area around "Crawford Texas". Anyone living in that area can choose to stay there or be allocated another area or some $ to leave. One of which is former president, George Bush.

Since a two state solution was not accepted, and noone has chosen to get along.. no human will be allowed to live in this region, the borers of Isreal, for 1000 years. All "Palestinians" are to go elsewhere, the Arab countries can allocate a space for them in Iran, Iraq, or other areas.

After 1000 years, it's someone elses problem... and hopefully, people have evolved.

Might have to dig them a big lake or sea or something, all dooable witha few billion...

I don't want to hear any "We were here first", blahblah... waste of time. Might as well go about murdering each other and justifying it. If you choose that, don't involve me.

Is there evidence for either yes or no?

Cue outrage…but hear me out. Egypt had a ‘slave” workforce that was paid. But they had little rights. Maybe we could thread the needle.

America’s big problems are retiring boomers and a blue collar workforce unwilling to educate themselves. Maybe they need slave-like guidance. Or incentive to educate themselves. Or else the state will put you to work. Just a thought. :)

“Get out or die.”

It’s ironic Israelis are not more sensitive to this…but they are forcing mass deportations in Gaza. And The Hague calls that a Crime. There’s just no one who cares to enforce it upon them.

Like 9/11, just because they were viciously and illegally attacked doesn’t give them carte blanche immunity to commit crimes against humanity.

I know, a depressing topic, but we seem to be our own worst enemy, and we've learned precisely nothing from history. We keep fighting and killing each other, and for the most stupid reasons (like, "My god is better than YOUR god! Take that you infidel!").

I'm so curious about this. Full disclosure I consider myself a "left facing pragmatist." Which basically means I would be indistinguishable from a "right facing pragmatist" apart from the direction I would like to move in.

But anyway, I'm sure everyone has heard by now of the Israel Palestine conflict. Minutes after the opening salvo pretty much the entire right wing was trying to blame Biden (of course, who else) for giving Iran 6 billion dollars. That was a lie, as the 6 billion to which they refer was actually Iran's own money. But instead of backing off the doubled down and insisted that being able to use 6 billion for one thing freed up 6 billion for attacks. So naturally it is now being reported that Iran never got the monet and in fact it's being frozen.

Don't right wingers feel even a little bit mad that they were lied to? And to be fair the outrage may very well be part of the reason Biden thought to have the 6 billion frozen, but that could have been brought to his attention without lies. Because it seems the reason for the lies is because the benefit is it increases the chance of scoring political crits but the cost is nonexistent because right wing voters don't hold their liars accountable..

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-to-hold-off-on-disbursing-6-billion-in-iran-oil-revenue-unfrozen-in-prisoner-deal-4007cc51

It looks as likely as any time in history, to have mass, attacks globally global on "innocent" civilians. Are you aware of the recent request from Hamas...

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/10/11/a-day-for-sacrifice-heroism-and-dedication-hamas-calls-for-world-wide-general-mobilization-on-friday-1403389/

A certain % of such people, will oblige... we have to assume... it's just started.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/13/france-knife-attack-leaves-teacher-dead-several-injured/

The bombing in Gaza has only begun, tensions will grow. Even at an early stage, there are protests in support of Palestinians and Hamas...

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-universities-staging-pro-palestinian-protests-1833807

And so... the risk you face in your normal life... has just gone from Def Conn 1 to Def Conn 5. Are you aware of that?

How pepared are you?

This looks to me... like 9/11, for the whole world...

Enjoy your day, but be prepared... No harm , in being prepared... or else...

If so... it will roil global economies again... we shall see...

I have never seen him use this sentence for any other country.

Faculty, students and alum at University of Washington rally in support of Hamas terror group. The flyer advertising the event featured one of the parachute gliders Hamas terrorists used to invade Israel. - thepostmillennial.com/breaking-faculty-students-and-alum-at-university-of-washington-rally-in-support-of-hamas-terror-group