Conor had pick of the litter for his comeback opponent, he could have picked anybody he wanted from 2-3 weightclasses and out of all those guys, he picked Cowboy. He doesn't do anything for no reason, he seems like he's wild and reckless and crazy, and he is, but he's very, very strategic when it comes to fighting. He's a genius at gameplans and reading other fighters, noticing tendencies and spotting holes in people's games. He picked Cowboy because he sees something he knows he can exploit.
And Cowboy's known weaknesses are a perfect match for Conor's known strengths. Cowboy does better against orthodox guys, Conor's southpaw. Cowboy is a late starter, Conor is a GREAT starter. Cowboy can let his emotions get the better of him and dictate how he fights, Conor is an expert at pissing people off. Cowboy likes to fight at one rhythm, Conor is a master at changing his rhythm as soon as his opponents settle into theirs.
A lot of people are saying Cowboy will have an advantage on the ground, but how's he going to get there? He's no Khabib, his takedowns tend to be sneaky and opportunistic, it's easy for Conor to use his mobility and speed and awareness to not give Cowboy those opportunities in the first place, PLUS, if it does hit the ground, Conor can still win, he has very strong, very accurate, methodical ground and pound, he just hasn't shown it off in a while. Cowboy might try to go for a sneaky submission and get TKO'd right there. However, I think Cowboy will oblige Conor with a kickboxing match and I think Conor will land significant shots early and often and Cowboy will be the worse for wear as the fight goes on. People think Cowboy will fare better as the fight drags on, that Conor will get tired, but Cowboy will be tired plus he'll be hurt, maybe dazed. First round Conor is no picnic in the park. Cowboy has wilted after an early onslaught many times before, and he's taken far, far more damage over his career than Conor ever has.
Not putting money on it but I'll be cheering for Conor. Even though he's been having rough since he became double champ but this time it seems like something really has changed in him. He didn't trash talk cowboy and was very respectful (that's not like him) plus he says he's been sober for 4 months. And he claims to be inspired by the work ethics of LeBron James which is by far my favorite athlete. It will definitely be interesting to see if all those changes affect him positively or negativity.
The MMA sports media guys I was listening to today are worried about Conor because he wasn't acting crazy like he used to do... lol
Women's Bantamweight Holly Holm vs. Raquel Pennington should be a great fight and there are 3 other female fights if you count the preliminary cards.
It should be a fun night since I love the female fights the best as I can relate to them and they don't really hurt each other as much as the guys do, as a rule :)
Well it's certainly a classic card, I mean McGregor AND Holm it certainly has been a while. I'm an on and off fan since time zone difference stops me from watching every event but this is one I'm definitely gonna stay up till morning for.
My friends are really into MMA, I'm kinda into it. Will generally see the really big matches. Admittedly, I find it to be really cringeworthy at times, esp when someone gets an advantage and gets a chance to really pound in someone before the ref can stop it. I will being see this weekend match and I got Conor McGregor. Altho I don't forsee placing a wager on it.#notheretotakepartheretotakeover
If I trained 8 hours per day like them, I'd be 165 pounds... and I'd be willing to fight either of them even though they'd be 2.5 weight classes above me. I'm currently 181 lbs and it's been 20 years since I trained Martial Arts full time. Back then I was a 3rd degree Brown Belt, but I could beat two second degree black belts in a handicap match. I was fighting at 3rd degree black belt skill level. The only reason I never got my black belt is because I couldn't memorize the last kata.
Anyway, I don't watch UFC much any more, too many rules and crap added to it in the past few decades. I liked it better when it was a no weight class, 8 man tournament like the first 8 seasons.
Yeah, well, whoever negatived me, I trained under several 4th and 7th degree black belts who were ex-marines, including A. J. Advincula, who invented the Marine Corp combat system, and his best student was my immediate instructor.
If I got back down to 165lbs and trained even 10 hours per week, I'd literally be able to win a 1vs2 handicap match against them.
I'm not interested in hurting anybody for sport, but believe what you want. I don't fear any two police officers, and I don't fear any two second degree black belts.
I fear A. J. Advincula, and he's dead now, but I knew him when he was 70 and I was 19, and I fear Mark Myers, and he's 54 right now, but I knew him when he was 35, and 8 years veteran of the Marine Corp... and I watched Advincula beat him in a 1vs1... either of them in their prime could beat 3 or 4 ofthe best UFC fighters in a literaly all vs one handicap, and they wouldn't be able to hurt them. I fear him. I don't fear connor mcgregor or cowboy, and I don't fear chuck lidel or rampage jackson or any of the other heavyweight or super-heavyweight fighters, and I certainly don't fear another 165 or 180lbs paper black belt.
I've had REAL professional UFC fighters try to submit me, and they can't submit me even if I let them get a free try, and I can submit them, and I can beat them in stand-up... well at least if I wasn't permanently disabled from nerve damage rom diabets now, they wouldn't even hit me.
I MIGHT actually try training and get back to 165lbs again. I'm currently 181lbs and my goal is 165lbs anyway...
I can assure you, if I trained 5 hours per week in traditional Isshinryu and 5 hours per week in Cardio again for 6 months, I'd literally be willling to do a 1vs2 exhibition against BOTH of them, and I'd win the fight, and they'd both require medical attention. I'd do it within the rules of the UFC too. I'd need one or two hits each, and they'd give up or the referee would stop the fight.
I also know like a dozen submissions that are legal that literally no UFC fighter knows or ever uses, and they end a fight even against a higher weight class opponent, immediately, even in a no rules fight... no matter who they are they will beg for mercy from the shit I know.
We used t oname our counter-attack combos for street self defense situations.
Here is how the fight would go.
If he jabs at me, I do what we call "Sword of Destruction" and his arm will be broken in two places instantly, and his jaw will be broken next, (and the ref would stop the fight if he realized it that fast,) and if I wanted to I could go immediately into passing his standing guard and do a reverse kneck breaker from there, kill him, and throw his dead corpse into the other guy, all within about 1.5 seconds.
If one of them threw a punch at me, his arm would get broken instantly in at least two places by a double chop block, and that would be the end of the fight, or else I'd circle block the punch, go into wrist lock, and kick the shit out of him a few times, and put his body between me and the other one until I had beaten him into submission and broken his wrist... then I'd just beat the hell out of the other one effortlessly...
I'm NOT a paper black belt. I'm a third degree brown belt in Isshinryu, but I fight at 3rd degree black belt skill level. I was trained by ex-marines in instantly lethal military fighting for the purpose of REAL self defense. I'm an expert at stand-up and I'm an expert at grappling, and I don't fear any two UFC fighters and I don't fear any two second degree black belts and I don't fear any two police officers.
Every time an actual ex-marine fights in the UFC they win their fights effortlessly, get bored and retire. An ex-marine won the 8 man tournament back when there were no weight classes and you fought 3 fights per night. His fights lasted 10 seconds flat before he submitted or knocked out the other fighter, because he was a REAL black belt in Isshinryu, and they were paper black belts in whatever style they studied... and I swear to God I'd beat him in a fight when I was 19 years old. I couldn't beat that guy now, because I'm medically disalbedd and have permanent nerve damage...
but I'd fuck Mcgregor or "Cowboy" up pretty badly. I've seen them fight, and their nothing to me. It's a fucking joke.
My old Sensei could beat 3 or 4 fighters like them in a handicap match, within the fucking rules, if he wanted to, and he's 54 years old now... and his sensei could do that when he was 70 years old. He's passed away now, that was 20 years ago, but A. J. Advincula INVENTED the style Jenner used to win the UFC... so I trained with the guy who invented that, and his best student was my immediate instructor.
You don't even seem to realize how fake UFC has become. it's not even real fighting any more. But I'd beat them in a 1vs2 HANDICAP within the rules, and they'd get hurt really, really badly within the rules... literally in one or two moves. The HANDICAP fight would last 10 seconds tops, and they'd both be unconscious or submitted, or the ref would stop the fight due to broken bones.
Also, when McGregor fought an elite boxer within the rules of boxing, he got his ass kicked. His fitness/cardio level wasn't good enough, and he punched himself out and didn't land most of his punches, etc. He basically got his ass kicked, because he's actually NOT a good fighter, and considering he supposedly trains 8 hours per day, his cardio actually SUCKS.
I'm in pretty bad shape now compared to 20 years ago, but again, I swear to God on my life, if I wanted to, I could train 10 hours per week, cut weight to 165lbs, I'm 181lbs right now, and I could effortlessly beat ANY UFC fighter in any weight class, and I'd beat any two of them in a handicap.
Even with nerve damage and muscle atropy from Type 2 Diabetes, I can still leg press more with one leg than most men can with two legs. I can kick a 200lbs water bag clear across a large room, and even send it airborne. If I thrust kicked him in the sternum from "trap-boxing" range, it would break his sternum, probably break several ribs, and give him a heart attack, and he'd most likely die on the spot.
I'd need to pull punches against them to avoid hurting them.
By the way, Royce Gracie never threw full force punches or kicks in the UFC. His goal was to win every fight without hurting his opponent, and he even said so. He did get beat a few times by other expert grapplers, but he actually pulled punches and only kicked or punch as a distracting strike, and never even tried to knock another fighter out... and that was when he was fighting people 3 weight classes bigger than him when there were no weight classes in an 8 man tournament. He was pulling punches and kicks against them. he could have killed them, because literally everyone in the tournament for the first 4 years, except him, was a paper black belt, with no real combat training... and the ones they have today are paper black belts with no real combat training.
Even Jujitsu doesn't teach real fighting, and they don't know half the instantly fight-ending and instantly lethal moves I know. And as I explained to a woman o nanother thread a few minutes ago, Jujitsu or Judo will NOT save your life or pussy in a rape situation.
Isshinryu or Shotokan or Crav Maga, taught by an ex-marine, WILL save your life in a real self defense situation, no matter how big the attacker is.
I fear my old sensei and his wife, and I fear his sensei, although he's dead now... but I don't fear any two second degree black belts and I don't fear any two UFC fighters... and again I don't fear two police officers in bullet proof vests (other than mace or a gun anyway).
Anyway, Sherrie, my Sensei's 120lbs wife, fights at or above 4th degree black belt skill level.
I bet she could win a 1vs2 handicap against McGregor and Cowboy in the UFC by UFC rules, and in a street fight she'd kill both of them in under 10 seconds. She was evenly matched against her 240 lbs ex-marine 4th degree black belt husband, and could knock him back several feet with a punch or kick. She'd kill Rhonda Rousey in one hit, or any UFC MALE, or pretty much anybody on WWE other than maybe Braun Stroman or Big Show (assuming they really fought and didn't just piss around like they do on WWE,) and that would be the end of the fight. She might even kill them in one or two hits for all I know.
I swear on my life, Sherrie Myers, a 120lbs woman, could win a 1vs2 against both of them if she wanted to. She wouldn't even get a workout.
What the fuck are they compared to a 4th degree black belt instructor with a real ex-marine husband and and their instructor INVENTED the fucking Marine Corps combat system.
So I'm telling you BOTH of them are unskilled fighters compared to me or pretty much anyone I trained with at or above Brown Belt level.
I'm pretty sure Mark Myers is 54 years old now, and his wife, Sherrie, is 50 now.
I'd put my money on his 50 years old wife ni a 1vs2 handicap against both McGregor and Cowboy, within the UFC rules, both can attack her simultaneously.
I have 15,500 spending money in may trade account.
God is my witness, if she did an exhibition against both of them, I'd put my money on her to win the fight, and I'd even say it would be over in under a minute, because they wouldn't be able to run awya from her either, she's faster than them and would chase them down. So I'd give them a minute, assuming the second one realized he was out-matched and just tried to run away from her after she kicked the shit out of the first one, and likely maimed him.
I kid you not. He attacks her with a jab, a cross, a hook, etc, or a kick, etc.
the fight is like, "Sword of Destruction" or "Five Swords"... oh wait, it's over. Broken arm, broken jaw, broken nose, broken knee... throw him in the other guy's direction as a distraction... where's the other guy? This was too easy...
I used to beat two of HIS second degree black belts, and he didn't give a black belt to anyone unless he thought they could KILL any attacker on the street... the only reason he never gave me a black belt is because I technically didn't meet the style's requirements, because I couldn't memorize the last kata. I tried for a freaking year... before I got disgusted, but I quit for financial reasons, at the time I couldn't afford to keep taking lessons. I still have the Second Degree Brown Belt Plague, I can take a picture of it and upload it if you want, I don't know what happened to the third degree plague, but I still have the third degree belt and I still have my traditional weapons, etc... and I still have my Black Gi which still fits, which only Brown Belts or above are allowed to wear.
But Jenner won the UFC TOURNAMENT because he was a REAL Isshinryu black belt in the marine Corp s Combat system, and the other fighters were paper black belts in useless shit like Jujitsu or Taiwkando or wrestling or boxing or whatever.
His fights lasted 10 seconds flat before he knocked them out or the ref stoppe the fight or he submitted them, and he won't the campionship and immediately retired.
He technically didn't even qualified to be in the tournament, because he didn't have enough prize fighting experience to qualify, so they made him a backup. But he was actually the only REAL black belt in the tournament that year, other than Gracie, but Gracie got hurt and disqualified himself, and Jenner won the tournament, effortlessly, and immediately retired.
Most people who have a brown or black belt are paper black belts. They're useless in a real fight, and they're sure as hell useless against someone like me with real military combat training.
In fact, they don't even teach marines what I know any more. They stopped teaching hand to hand combat in the U. S. military a few years ago. First they switched to Crav maga for a few years, and then they just stopped teaching real fighting even in the military, because they now assume they don't need hand to hand combat in the military, which is a wrong and ridiculous assumption.
So a Marine from the past 15 years can't teach you how to defend yourself in a real fight, becaues he wasn't taught a real hand-to-hand combat system.
An ex-marine from 30 years ago could teach you how to KILL any two UFC fighters in a handicap match, in 10 seconds flat, with your bare hands, WITHOUT even breaking the rules...
My first Isshinryu instructor, Mike Storms, also a 4th degree black belt, who was also Mark's first Isshinryu instructor, when he was 35 years old (I was 12 at the time), he could kick a 300 lbs hanging water bag through a 9 foot ceiling from a hanging position on a 5 foot long chain. He coudl literally kick or punch another heavyweight man over the fucking chain link fence and out of the ring in the UFC... in one fucking hit. He was also an ex-marine. he was a real asshole though. But he used to do demonstrations on Mark Meyers and break Oak Bo's over his gut, neck, throat, arms, and legs, and Mark wouldn't even flinch from it.
They were both in such good shape, McGregor or Cowboy would't be able to hurt them with a fucking billy club. I'd literally give him a melee weapon as a handicap, and I bet they'd disarm him and beat him anyway... effortlessly.
Know why I know this?
Because I DON'T FEAR POLICE OFFICERS even if they have a knight stick. I'll disarm the fucking police officer and kill him with his own weapon, or else place him under citizens arrest for assault with a deadly weapon.
God help the police if they ever need to arrest an actually evil REAL Black Belt, because they will get killed, and the guy won't even get a workout killing them.
We used to do handicap drills against armed attackers, simulating someone attacking you with a makeshift weapon, etc, and the other para-military trained black belts couldn't hit me with an escrima stick. I closed distance and disarmed them and Mark would stop the fight.
One time he even put me against two armed black belts, and I disarmed both of them, and he stopped the fight. And again, he didn't give a black belt to somebody unless he though they could KILL any attacker in 10 seconds flat in a real street self defense situation.
his motto was literally "Instantaneous Destructive Force" for street self defense, and I agree with him. he used to tell the women to kill the male attacker, instantly, and worry about the legal ramifications later... and I tell women the same thing.
When my little sister was a purple belt in 9th grade in High School, about 120lbs, a Senior football player wouldn't leave her alone and kept harassing her, and he put one of his hands on her, and she punched him in the solar plexus so hard he went to the ground and CRIED... one fucking full force hit from a 120lbs PURPLE BELT 14 years old girl dropped a 250lbs athlete instantly... and he CRIED... and her punches don't even phase me (in the body)... because I have a very high pain threshold. Sh eprobably has a 600 foot lbs punch by the time she became a Brown Belt. If she punched a grown man in the face, it would most likely kill him... and I can punch several hundred pounds harder than her. I can punch a few hundred pounds harder than professional heavyweight boxers... and I can snap kick, thrust kick, or side kick at least twice that hard... right fucking now without training, 20 years after the fact.
Like I said, I'd need to pull punches in the UFC or I'd kill or maim them. They're nothing to me.
I took some jujitsu classes two years ago fora few months, just to try to get in shape for awhile, and the instructor there was a professional UFC fighter, although lower ranked, and a Jujitusu first Degree Black Belt, and he couldn't submit me.
I let him try the Disarmer on me 10 consecutive times, and I got out of it every time, and he got mad at me because I hadn't trained in 18 years, and we knew how to grapple in Isshinryu, but we didn't practice grappling for sport and certainly not defense, because we trained under the assumption that you would be in a 1vs2 defense situation in a street fight (your attacker's friends/accomplices) and needed to stay on your feet to survive, so we did practice grappling sometimes, but we mostly concentrated on instantly winning a stand-up fight.
Michael could not submit me, and I got out of everything he tried on me. Then we grappled, and I let him have the superior position (because that was the exercise) and I proved I could submit HIM from my back, while he was standing and attacking me, or else on top of me in full mount, I submitted him with wrist locks and shit, and again we didn't even bother training grappling "for real" in Isshinryu, because we assume you need to win a real fight before it goes to the ground anyway.
He complaind to me, because I literally was 60 lbs overweight and out of shape, and hadn't trained in 18 years at the time. Now I've lost 62 pounds from proper diet and a little exercise, and I'd be able to 1vs2 him again right now... if I trained 10 hours per week and lost another 15 pounds, or else lost 20 pounds and built back a few pounds of muscle, I'd fuck up any two people in their dojo easily... including the new guy who is a former world judo champion. Piss on that, I've watched them train, and if I trained 10 hours per day and cut weight back to 165lbs I'd piss on them.
I have no real need to train grappling, because I already know how to counter it, and I already know submissions the alleged submisson "experts" have never seen,
Anyway, Michael was either a first or second degree black belt in Gracie Jujitsu, and a full time professonal UFC fighter, and he got mad at me, because not only could he NOT submit me, but I could submit him, starting from an "inferior position" drill... even though I was 62 pounds overweight at the time, and Hadn't trained martial arts in 18 years.
Now that I've lost 62 pounds, and reversed like half of the nerve damage through diet and medication, I'd fuck up two or three fighters like him, in a HANDICAP.
That was A DRILL where I started in the inferior position, and he started standing and tried to get full mount on me. Within a few seconds I had him in a UFC legal submission every time and he tapped out. One time he said I grabbed individual fingers on a wrist lock and said it wasn't legal in UFC, so the next time I submitted him UFC legal with the same lock, but didn't grab individual fingers. Grabbing Individual fingers are banned in UFC because it's too easy to break the other person's wrist or fingers...
But the point is I don't respect them, and I sure as hell don't fear them.
I could cut weight to 165lbs and challenge one or the other or both of them to an exhibition, but I don't see much point in that. I'd need to pull punches and kicks and definitely not use full force kicks, or I'd risk permanently injuring or killing them.
I'd probably end up submitting them with a front wrist lock and just kicking the shit out of their solar plexus until they either quit or the referee stopped the fight.
Other than that, they'd end up with an arm or two broken from a double chop block, and a broken jaw or certainly a broken nose... a front palm heel strike to the nose at half force would knock him out, at full force it would kill him in one hit, there would be bone fragments in his brain... and that's actually LEGAL in the UFC.
Unlike the Rocky 4 movie, a man does not get back up from a 1000 foot-pound punch to the nose. He falls to the ground dead instantly.
When I was 17 years old, and a Light Green belt at the time, I beat a 20-something years old professional boxer by boxing rules. He couldn't even hit me. Mark Myers had some professional boxers come in and train with us, and his students from green belt and above beat the boxers by boxing rules, wearing 16 ounce boxing gloves, and we didn't train with gloves, we weren't used to punching in boxing gloves, but everyone from Green belt up won their fight against professional boxers, again by boxing rules.
Connor McGregor punched himself out when he fought that boxing champion, and got his ass kicked. I forget who that was a few years ago, but I don't watch professional boxing very often any more, like once every five years or something. But anyway, McGregor punched himself out after a few rounds, and got beat silly, because he didn't know how to throw a combination at someone without punching himself out, and he didn't have the cardio fitness to compete with somebody that runs 10 miles per day and does 500 sit-ups and 500 push-ups every day.
A real black belt doesn't punch them self out, and doesn't over extend them self. A real black belt fights a counter-punch style of fighting, and doesn't over extend them self... and a real black belt doesn't get beat by a professional boxer, regardless of the rules.
And a real black belt doesn't get beat by a purple belt or green belt either, as has happened in the UFC any number of times. If you get beat by someone more than one belt rank below you, then either that person needs to be promoted, or you got your belt too easily... and if a Martial artist gets beat by a boxer, they need to be DEMOTED back to WHITE belt and start the fuck over, in a REAL fighting style, because they clearly didn't learn anything the first time.
So anyway, I consider BOTH of them unskilled fighters, and I have no respect for them, and I'm sure as hell not afraid of either of them. I'd fuck them up, right now, and at 165lbs I'd win a 1vs2 handicap against them, by their rules or any rules system for that matter. And I'm not lying or exaggerating, and God is my witness, and by now users here know I really do believe in God.
I'm going to try to cut weight to 165 again anyway, but I admit I've been over-eating again the past month and a half, so my rate of weight loss has slowed down a bit. But man, the fact I got "thumbs downed" on this thread makes me laugh.
that makes me laugh.
Even though I'd end up hurting them, I'm almost motivated to want to train for real for 6 months and then offer one of them an exhibition match. lol. he might think I have no chance, since I'd be 165lbs and he'd be 220lbs, but he'd be at a severe disadvantage... his rules... he can pick the rules and he can pick the arena, and I'll beat him at whatever he does...
I'll even let him start with an Escrima stick too... I'll disarm him, throw the weapon away, and then beat him silly.
Anyway, I actually still need to cut about 25 lbs of fat and fluid, down to 155lbs, and then rebuild about 10 lbs of muscle, but that's easily doable in 6 months, 10 hours per week.
I'd do 5 hours traditional and 5 hours Carido Kickboxing. A real Cardio class is more rigorous than an actual fight anyway, which is one reason I'm a little hesitant to start, because I need to lose a few more pounds before I'm even in good enough shape to try that. But unlike McGregor, I don't need to be in perfect cardio health to beat a UFC fighter, because I'm not an idiot and I won't punch myself out, and the fight will be over in 10 seconds flat or less anyway.
Anyway, I would also need ot change my works schedule somehow, so I could train a few hours every day, because the only real dojo around here is the Gracie Jujitsu dojo, because Mark and Sherrie retired from professional martial arts a few years ago. But anyway, yeah, all I'd need to do is practice some basis, 5 hours per week of a real Cardio kickboxing class, and do some real sparring to get my reflexes half-way back to what they used to be, and I'd have no problem winning a handicap against both of them... or a handicap against one of them armed with an Escrima stick. I'd win either scenario, and probably wouldn't even get hit.
Literally, if he threw a punch at me, his arm would be broken INSTANTLY, or I'd already have him in an front wrist lock or side arm control INSTANTLY and I'd just kick the living shit out of him five or ten times in the solar plexus before he choked on vomit, or the referee stopped the fight.
When I can literally throw a 2000 pound thrust kick, he better not get in boxing range anyway. He doesn't punch or kick as hard as me, even though he's 3 weight classes bigger than my ideal weight.
If he gets any closer than "front snap kick range" I'll hit him so hard, if I threw a full force thrust kick, I'd hit him so hard he'd vomit on the spot, and probably have permanent organ damage.
The fact they over-extend almost every time they punch or kick is comical. Try that against me, and I'll have you in trap boxing range and one arm lock or another immediately, and I'll just kick the shit out of you, or palm heel you in the nose and one-shot you either way.
I'm not going ot get beat by some paper black belt anyway. Like i said, I really don't even need to train to beat them, but only an idiot would fight them without actually training for 6 months, but the honest truth is I'm positive I could beat either of them 1vs1 without training, and I'm positive I could beat both of them 1vs2 with 6 months 10 hours per week training... I'd just make some calls and find a REAL ex-marine instructor somewhere who was in the Marine Corps 30+ years ago, and I'd train for six months, and I'd be a killing machine again, and I'd need to pull my punches and kicks to avoid killing them.
Back then, I intended to join the Marine Corps, but they didn't allow me because I had Spinal Meningitis when I wa san infant, so even though I didn't have permanent damage from it, they said there was a certain chance of a relapse or side effect happening, and that disqualified me from the military. I'm still in the Selective Service and they'd still draft me if a war ever got that bad again, but they don't want me unless they absolutely need me, due to that medical problem, and the medical examiner explained that to me the day they gave me a physical exam and asked me the medical history questions. That's the only reason I never joined the Marine Corps. I signed up TWICE and they wouldn't take me either time. I also scored a 99th percentile on the ASVAB in every category, and I'm also an expert military strategist for pretty much the weapons of every era in human history, and I'm sure as hell a better strategist than the fools we call generals today in the U. S. military. I'd have won the Iraq and Afghanistan wars without losing a single soldier's life, and I could take down North Korea without losing a single soldier's life... excluding the possibility of a mechanical malfunction of one of our aircraft anyway. I'd take them down easily and effortlessly, wth precision, with no civilian casualties, every aircraft and military vehicle of theirs would be destroyed within 3 days, and they would surrender UNCONDITiONALLY within one week... and I would suffer ZERO casualties and ZERO civilians killed... and then I'd publicly, summarily execute every person who ever supported Kim Jong Un or any of his family members in any way, and I'd put the South Korean government in control of North Korea.
As far as military strategy goes, I spent several years being trained by a retired Marine Corp colonel who was a Vietnam veteran. I'm an expert in military history, and I'm an expert in real military tactics that win any engagement instantly without casualties, especially when you have a ridiculous 10 to 1 technology advantage like our idiot generals did in Iraq and Afghanistan and couldn't win the war without casualties... because of their rules of engagement, and because of their not understanding that the enemy they were fighting practiced "total War".
I believe in "Total Asset Destruction" (short of killing civilians) and I know how to win a "Total War" without suffering casualties.
So anyway, beating a UFC fighter or even beating a 1vs2 handicap against UFC fighters is nothing to me. I can probably do that without training, and If I trained for 6 months I know good and damned well I'd win a handicap against them, and the fight would last a few seconds... tops... I might need to chase the second one around for a few seconds, because he's going to run away after he sees how effortlessly I'd dispatch whichever of them got within trap-boxing range first...
Like I said, his arm would be broken instantly, or I'd have him in a front wrist lock or side arm control, and kick him in the gut so hard he'd choke on his own vomit... and I'd keep his body between myself and the other guy so he can't double team me... and after the first one quits or passes out or something, I'd beat the hell out of the other one 1vs1.
I want to cut another 15 pounds anyway, but I honestly want to cut the weight before I rejoin a cardio class, so I don't kill myself. Like I said, real training is actually harder than a fight anyway.
I already know the techniques to beat them, I'd just train to get the fitness and reflexes back. I don't need an 800 pound punch to beat them anyway, but it would be nice to do that again. I doubt I could get a 1000 pound punch back in six months, given I'm 39 now and have permanent nerve damage, but I could probably get back to 800 pounds punch and 2000 pounds thrust kick in six months training, if I worked at it seriously... that's good enough to win a heavyweight fight, and a lot stronger than 99.9% of 165 pound fighters can do anyway.
And for example, you may remember a few years back on WWE, when Shaemus and Big show had their competition to see whether his kick was stronger than Big Show's punch. I didn't actually get to see it, because I was at work that day, my punch when I was 19 years old was stronger than either of them, and my kick was twice as strong as them... and my front thrust kick is probably still well over 1500 foot pounds... even after 20 years without training full time.
I can get my kicks up to head height, but there is little practical reason to do that, it's a balance risk, for one thing. Besides, if I kick someone in the solar plexus or sternum as hard as I can, they'll double over and vomit anyway, and then I'll get a free shot on their head anyway.
they aren't even paper black belts. Most of the UFC fighters are purple belts and first degree brown belts in Jujitsu, a SPORT. That isn't even a real street fighting style.
What the fuck would he do against me? I'm trained in real, instantly lethal military combat, that they don't even teach in the real military any more...
I'm trained in multiple attacker drills and handicap situations against an armed attacker, and I can win the scenario without getting hit.
What is he going to do against me?
What is any paper black belt going to do against me?
The police officer in body armor only beat me that tim because he maced me, and it was two in bullet proof vests with mace vs me, and I evidently hurt him bad enough that he panicked and punched me in the face about 20 times after I feel and lost my footing and hit the back of my head on the concrete. If not for that, I might have beaten both of them even mace and bullet proof vests and all. But thank God nothing bad happened that day. That was a medical problem and I was out of line due to medicaton causing a hallucination. But my family who called the police on me, forgot to tell the police that I was an expert fighter, so he didn't realize what was happening, and when he got the upper hand, he over-reacted and punched me in th eface about 20 times as hard as he could, even after I was already unconscious from hitting me head on the concrete. After I came back conscious, he hit me in the face about ten more times before I eventually gave up, but he had me in cuffs already and was in full mount and had already maced me, and still barely beat me, with his partner's help, and again bullet proof vests. It's a good thing I was 62 pounds overweight at the time, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to beat me anyway, in spite of all of that.
But that only happened because my medication caused a hallucination, and thank God I didn't hit one of them with an instantly lethal attack, which I wasn't trying to kill anybody. When he cuffed me he hurt my arm, and I instinctively turned around and threw several attacks at him. They dropped the charges against me, because it wasn't my fault, and no harm came from it. It was the wrong damned anti-depressants caused a hallucination.
But after the fight, I actually thanked the officer for kicking my ass. It took a few hours for the mace to wear off, and it took two weeks and antibiotics for the bruises on my face to heal up. I'm not mad at him for punching me in the face over and over, because I'd have done the same thing if I was him.
I'm not afraid of Brock Lesnar either, but I wouldn't want to fight him. given he's like 4 weight classes bigger than me, I'd probably need to hurt him pretty badly to actually beat him in a fight. ultimately, he'd probably end up with one or more broken arms and incapacitated by a palm heel to the nose, but there's a certain risk of accidentally killing him if I actually did that in a fight. I don't have much interest in accidentally killing someone for sport just to prove I could beat him in a fight. But he's damn near invincible in the body, but I doubt even he could take a full force thrust kick from me, especially if I actually trained full time for 6 months again.
Kevin Owens and Bray Wayatt are also tough as nails, but they don't even let Lesnar or either of them fight for real on WWE. That's all fake showmanship anyway. the best one on there in the past several years was actually C. M. Punk, but he quit because he wanted to fight MMA instead of fake wrestling and throwing matches against inferior opponents for show...
Well, Keven Owns or Bray Wayatt I'd say the same thing as Lesnar, both of them are tough as nails, and I could still beat them in a fight, but I'd most likely need to hurt them pretty badly to do it... and again, I don't have much interest in ending someone's career or livelihood just to prove I can beat them. But nobody actually beats any of them in a fight. It's showmanship. they intentionally throw the fight to keep it interesting in WWE.
The Mandible Claw is a real submission, by the way, and it hurts like hell, I've had it put on me by a 4th degree black belt, but it's only useful if you are wearing leather gloves, otherwise you'd get your fingers bitten off... but I know something less risky that works, and a 120lbs WOMAN could submit Brock Lesnar with her left pinky with what I know... and it's legal in the UFC... and the fighters don't know it.
Oh yeah, the best fighter in the women's division in WWE is Lacey Evans, although her act is disgusting to me, she's an ex-marine. If she wanted to she could beat any two women in the women's division in a handicap... not even tag rules, just two vs one, she'd kill them. It's showmanship. She intentionally loses to keep it interesting.
the training they put you through in the Marine Corps, especially 30 or more years ago when they still taught Advincula's combat system, turns you into an instantly lethal killing machine.
they've had U. S. marines score 40 or more confirmed kills in a single night in real wars before. In WWII there was a case of a certain U. S. marine who single handedly took down an entire Nazi outpost and killed an entire Nazi battalion using only a pistol and hand to hand techniques and geurilla tactis, in one freaking night. Although I think he probably confiscated someone's machine gun at some point, but the point is he killed a couple hundred armed Nazi soldiers single handedly in one night. Won a medal of honor doing it too. "Rambo II" is real. that actually happened in WWII against the Nazis.
Believe what you want anyway, but Lacy Evans could probably beat Brock Lesnar 1vs1 if she fought for real. she's the only real fighter in the women's division on WWE. Her losses are thrown for showmanship... just like C. M. Punk's losses were thrown for showmanship, and when big Show was younger his losses were thrown, and Andre the Giant's losses were thrown. He LET Hulk Hogan beat him, and that is a historical fact, because even at the end of his career no two other professional wrestlers could beat him even in a handicap match.
They don't let real marines win in WWE, they don't even let them throw real punches and kicks.
And the REAL best no rules fighter who ever lived is probably A. J. Advincula, a 7th degree black belt, and even if he was still alive, he would have no interest in killing some pathetic, half-trained paper black belt like Cowboy or McGregor in a UFC ring.
I'm not interested in killing either of them either. So even if I did get back into perfect shape and issue some sort of challenge to one or both of them, I'd make them sign some sort of "fight at your own risk" agreement, so I don't end up getting sued if they get permanently injured. I'm not out to hurt anybody, but I might end up breaking a bone or three before the fight's over.
If I punch or palm heel him in the nose full force, there's a certain chance of killing him or doing permanent brain damage, so you're damned right I'd make them sign some sort of waiver before fighting them. I wouldn't want to get sued or imprisoned over an accidental death. Which is why real black belts don't fight in it anyway.
Marco Juas won the UFC when it was still a no weight class tournament, and he was I think 185 pounds, and he beat a 280 pound (paper) black belt in one round. Marco kicked him in the legs so many times that his legs cramped up and he fell flat on his face, and the referee stopped the fight.
I say paper black belt, because real black belt shouldn't get leg-kicked to death, not even by another black belt. the counter to that is a simple leg check that prevents the kick from doing any real damage... and if you've actually sparred against other black belts month after month, you do that instinctively without even thinking about it. It's a basic Brown/Black belt fighting skill. So yeah, PAPER black belt... and he got his ass kicked by a man 100 lbs lighter than him.
Anyway, I wouldn't want to fight Brock Lesnar or Bray Wayatt or Kevin Owens. I know I could beat them, but the problem is I'd end up needing to hurt them in order to actually win, and again I have no interest in killing somebody or ending someone's career or livelihood just to prove to a few uneducated idiots on here that I can actually do that.
in a real fight, they'd all die the same way anybody else would, but in a SPORT I'd do my best to beat them without permanently injuring them, but they'd probably still end up with a broken wrist and a broken jaw or broken nose.
I could put a REAL DDT/Reverse DDT on one of them, and that would end the fight, but they haven't allowed real DDT in professional wrestling in decades anyway.
If you really DDT somebody, they don't get back up from it. They're on the ground unconscious with a concussion, and possible brain bleed... or broken neck or bone fragments in the brain when it crushes their skull.
I'd try to win with a real sleeper or a rear-naked choke if I fought them, but I'd basically be handicapping myself, as I'm not trying to hurt anybody, but he might end up with a broken arm as a pass his standing guard. That would end the fight without killing the guy, but he'd end up in the ER anyway.
I know Kevin Owens is for real, and his losses are thrown, because I've seen him get up from some shit that no human being should be able to withstand, unless they are on some sort of prescription pain killer non-stop anyway... like getting suplexed onto steel folding chairs from the top rope. You know, that's still showmanship, he let Mojo do that to him, but that landing was fucking real, there was no faking that... and he got back up from that and won the fight a few minutes later.
So no, I wouldn't fight him for sport, because the way I'd win he'd end up seriously injured. I could beat him without killing him, but he'd end up with one or more broken bones for sure.
I don't need to do that just to prove to some half-whits on here that I can do that.
I wouldn't let somebody suplex me into steel chairs like that, but then again I'm not on pain killing opioids or illegal drugs, or whatever it is professional wrestlers take these days. They are all on pain medication non stop, and over the years any number of them have eventually died from overdoses from pain medications. You don't get up from shit like that unless you're on something illegal or prescription strength anyway.
Anyway, I'm not on illegal drugs, so I'm not dumb enough to let another grown man throw me into a stack of steel chairs off the top rope of a wrestling ring. I'm not exactly interested in the prospect of getting my neck or back broken in the stunt, and the recovery time from the bruising I'd be inflicted, and I'm not going to start a drug habit just to see if I can get my pain threshold high enough to try that. lol.
yeah I could beat McGregor or Cowboy, like I said, kmost likely a front wrist lock or side arm control, and kick them in the gut until they vomit or the ref stops the fight. I could beat them without doing pemanent damage to them, although they'd be out of commission for a few weeks.
I probably wouldn't be able to beat the toughest guys in WWE, because they are on drugs. I'd need to hurt them, badly to win. But that's not a sport, so I guess it's okay that they take opioids and LSD and shit, because it's just showmanship. They aren't required to take drug tests to do that, because it's not a real sport.
If I actually break his wrist with a REAL full force front wrist lock, not only will he tap out, but he'll cry like a baby... and he won't be able to throw a full force punch with that hand for the rest of his life without re-injuring himself.
A REAL front wrist lock, and I'm going to crank 2 or 3 times, and he's going to fall on his face, and I'm going to knee the shit out of his face as he falls to the ground, and he's going to have both a broken wrist and a broken nose or broken jaw, whatever gets hit by my knee, and the ref will obviously stop the fight immediately... and I can do that effortlessly against a second degree black belt if necessary. Would last 5 to 10 seconds, or less, depending on how long he dances around before throwing a punch at me.
I remember watching the UFC "reality" show, and one time two guys got in a street brawl on there, and the one in the lower weight class tried to put the cross arm breaker on a 220 pounder, in areal street fight, and I LAUGHED at him. I was like, "that doesn't even work on a 220 pounder in the ring, how the hell do you expect it to work in a real fight?"
A real front wrist lock WILL drop a 220 pounder, and if they don't tap, matter of fact if they don't go along with it, their wrist will get broken, and then they'll REALLY be in pain...
I don't need to prove anything to anybody, other than the fact I'm just informing you, they're unskilled fighters.
Real Black Belts don't fight in the UFC.
It's pretty dumb anyway when yo uwatch some paper black belt who gets full mount on somebody and can't finish the fight. Like seriously, what do they teach these guys in martial arts class?
I can submit ANYBODY from full mount with ONE FINGER. ONE FINGER. I don't care what weight class they are, they will tap out immediately.
I've actually done that to a super-heavy weight black belt, from the standing position vs standing position, and he TAPPED OUT... one finger... I didn't even use my other hand AT ALL... and a super-heavy weight black belt tapped immediately.
I pinned one of his arms with my elbow against my own body, and used the pinky finger on that same arm to submit him, and he tapped out immediately, and complained that I knew something that devastating and easy.
Sherrie taught that to her Cardio Kickboxing class one day that I happened to be there, she was teaching ti to women to defend against a rapist, but there were a few men in the class, and she demonstrated it on me (I was usually the guinea pig) and it hurts like hell, is instantly disabling, and you tap instinctively.
One finger.
I can submit any UFC fighter with literally my left Pinky.
It's not the Mandible Claw and it's not the groin.
It's UFC legal technically, but UFC fighters don't know this move. It hurts a smuch as the mandible claw, but you don't need to be wearing leather gloves and there's no risk of getting your fingers bitten off, and no I'm not telling another man how to do it, because the godless idiots on here would probably use it to rape a woman for all I know... I don't even trust most of the women on this site with this knowledge, because you people support abortion, so you don't know the value of human life and decency anyway, so I'm not going to teach the women here how to use a top secret defense technique either, because I don't trust the women here beyond teaching an obvious throat jab for a life or death situation... plus persistent training.
But the point is, real black belts know all the shit UFC fighters do, and they know five times as many BETTER submissions that work that UFC fighters don't know.
One finger, and He'd tap. And technically I could submit him from Guard vs his full mount with this same move, but it would be slightly harder, but he'd still tap.
He wouldnt' be able to get me in guard anyway. The only two times anyone ever put me in guard against my will was a 4th degree black belt, or a police officer double teaming me with a mace can and a bullet proof vest... when I was already cuffed... and they barely beat me then.
Yeah, super heavy weight black belt in a standing grapling position, just for shits and giggles, I trapped his left arm under my right elbow against my body, and I submitted him with my right pinky,, on a top-secret pressure point Sherrie Meyers taught me 18 years earlier, which I had never used in a real sparring match, and he tapped instantly... and Brock Lesnar would have tapped too.
Now, if I actually "Karate chopped" a grown man in that pressure point, it would kill or maim him instantly, he'd most likely be dead before he hit the ground. Even if he did survive it, he'd require several reconstructive surgeries to repair all of the damage to the bones that would be broken and other cosmetic surgeries. The pressure point is in the head/face, I'll tell you that much, and a full force traditional "Karate Chop" at that location would be instantly maiming, and probably lethal. There's a certain chance of permanent brain damage or worse happening. It's not the neck or throat, by the way, although that would be instantly lethal from a full force Karate chop too.
But used as a pressure point, it's harmless, but it WILL make anybody submit immediately.
When I did it to that ~260 lbs superheavyweight black belt, he initially tried to get out of it for a second or so, and then couldn't get out of it, and tapped. One Pinky.
So anyway, you can be impressed with them if you want to be impressed, but I'm not impressed.
He couldnt beat a boxer for God's sake, so why hasn't someone beaten him in full contact?
Yes, that was a surprise as to the timing, but I've come to realize that you never know for sure what is going to happen. It only takes one slip up to be put out sometimes :)
I have been boxing for 8 years and still teach boxing. I have participated in a handful of MMA competitions, so it is very much in my blood :) It was an easy call. Cerrone - although once a tremendous fighter - has had a terrible run for some time now. The Gaethje defeat was really hard for him, and ever since, he has in essence been on his way out of the league. A chance to meet McGregor in a high value cash game -and doing so when Conor desperately needs a way back, and Cerrone is on the way out - is only a favor from Dana White and a nice exit and way out.. there was no way McGregor was ever losing that match! However, shy of 40 seconds was faster than I had reckoned for...
Yes, that was a surprise as to the timing, but I've come to realize that you never know for sure what is going to happen. It only takes one slip up to be put out sometimes
Sad that it ended so fast but happy cowboy is getting paid and happy mcgregor isn't such a prick no more. Was nice to see how respectful and nice mcgregor was.
On a side note, who wouldve thought roxanne beat maycee like that.. dont think maycee wouldve won even if she didn't get an injured knee.
I'm a traditionalist when it comes to martial arts and I mean the really old school kind. So I'm not really into the whole MMA scene and don't really like how martial arts has become a sport art to be honest to many rules, regulations and crap added to it.
If it goes to the ground cowboy is definitely the winner but if they try to go toe to toe, Connor will catch him with a quick shot to the head I think, can't wait to see what happens, I personally hope cowboy takes the win tbh
I won't be watching the fight live and I probably won't be placing a bet but I do have some passing interest in MMA. I think they've given Conor an opponent he can beat, my only concern would be that he has not fought in over a year since having his ass handed to him and deciding to retire. But yeah, my money would be on Conor if his head is still in the game.
At first it is sickening actually but once you realize that there are strict rules and the referee is there to make sure it doesn't go too far, than it gets easier to watch and now I like it, so try it sometime and see :)
It all depends on who is more focused. Conor hasn't had a win in 4 years and Cerrone has been accused of panicking in big fights. It all depends on who is more focused.
I'm kinda glad McGregor won, even though I disagree with a lot of what he does. I guess luck has to play some part, but maybe McGregor was just better. My knowledge of MMA is really limited.
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