What do you think of the genetic engineering on human embryos?

[ChicoFromThe305]

So long story short it's like a build your baby type of thing where scientists tweak and manipulate, add or remove specific DNA cells into sperm cells or whatnot to make the baby come out with specific features, such as change of eye color and stuff which if I'm not mistaken, this technology is being studied to prevent diseases and stuff because i think they can just delete it or someshit, kinda weird shit in my opinion.

[patois]

DNA are not cells... DNA sequences are polymers made of nucleotides. What you are talking about is basicly knock out humans where you would inactivate or knock out an existing gene by replacing it or disrupting it with an artificial piece of DNA... Personally I am strongly against it. We often study gene function in a mouse model for example, but if you were to knock out the same gene in a human, the outcome could be vastly different leading to unexpected consequences. I don't how you guys didn't learn this from the experiment Covid-19 vaccines that I told you not to take. You don't always end up with perfect insertion of genes nor are your experimental models perfectly predictable in other species. You can end up causing harm like myocarditis, blood clots, neurological damage, super cancers, suppressed immune function, etc. It's way more safe to silence a gene through miRNA (Micro RNA) treatments, than to do gene insertions that aren't going to be easily reversed.

[patois]

*basically

[patois]

Another excellent area of research would be to focus on personalized cloned organs. So say someone is progressing down the line of heart disease as they age and you take stem cells from an individual and you grow a new copy of their heart and implant it into that individual when they need surgery. They would get a new functioning fresh heart, and an extension of life, but you're not monkeying around with their genetic code. You're just swapping in new parts like a car mechanic. There are many ways to utilize biotechnology to improve human health without doing risky gene editing on new born children. All technologies have good and bad aspects. For example, nuclear technology can be used to produce clean electricity, but it can also be used to make atomic bombs that burn cities to dust... Gene editing humans in vivo is like an atomic bomb. There is all sorts of collateral damage.

[onedarkcloud]

The one thing I know for sure is that HUMANS ARE STUPID! Covid just proves the hive mentality. Like the old margrin ad used to say. IT IS NOT NICE TO FOOL WITH MOTHER NATURE! We know what is going to happen right Sunflowers are going to turn into Triffids.

[patois]

@onedarkcloud You definitely have to be careful. Life is more complex than people let on. While some things work in controlled experiments, in living organisms, results may vary due to genetic varability... People that were willing to blindly take mRNA shots of any kind aren't the brightest that's for sure.

[patois]

*variability

[Likes2drive]

It would be good in certain ways if they are removing genetic diseases that are usually passed on like cancer and other nasty diseases and I suppose after a generation of doing that it wouldn’t be necessary anymore once all the diseases were eradicated that way but people always abuse science like that and might make people different from what they should be. Would also take the fun out sex and reminds me of a part of a movie called “The Demolition Man “

[electromagnetic]

It’s just getting weird. People love playing god.

[ChicoFromThe305]

I know right smh

[Tim2nice]

Is there a god?

[ChicoFromThe305]

Yes.

[Tim2nice]

Where’s the evidence?

[ChicoFromThe305]

Where's the evidence that he doesn't

[electromagnetic]

👀 .

[Tim2nice]

The onus of providing the on you.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Sounds more like there is none to me, there's simply more evidence to a god then there is to no God and if you just look around on existence itself, it's a form of evidence considering it's even proven by science that it's not possible for something to create itself, so something created everything, let's also not forget that within our universe it's only logical that life comes from other life, I can say that a being and entity that exists outside of our universe that exists outside of time and matter was able to create everything we know, what point of view would you have to back the conclusion you are trying to state cause even science unintentionally points to a god, according to science the chances of the big bang being accidental is little to none so if you'd rather believe in the small possibility that it just blew up accidentally and accidentally created life that evolved and created physics, matter and time without reasoning then that's all you but I have enough things to come to the conclusion of the existence of a god personally, now id like to hear what you have to prove the opposite.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Not seeing isn't a valid form of evidence just saying before you try using that considering the fact that before a specific time we couldn't see air or many types of gases until they were proven to exist, if a god exists outside of space, time and matter it will be impossible to prove, the importance would all be if you are willing to have your mind open to the idea or not, it's a big if too cause if it's all true, your salavation is on the line, the only thing i have to lose is my time on earth which is also slipping away from you as well and everyone, im at peace with accepting the existence of a god and my existence having a reason and us being created in an image of our creator and being expected to follow in his footsteps, it all makes sense to me, believing in this surely has more life to believing that i exist accidentally to then die, like I keep telling people unless I shrink into a sperm cell and shoot back up my father's balls I believe there's a different stage after death, even thinking of it logically what proof would there be that after death it will be the same as before I was produced in the testicles, nothing created ever just vanishes to back to nothing, make something and try making it disappear, let me know when you accomplish it 😂

[Tim2nice]

I say Batman exists. Show me evidence he doesn’t

[ChicoFromThe305]

He was made up by a human mind there's your evidence, I can show you a link on whos mind it was too if you want, you are showing very weak evidence to your claims, he also admits and takes full credit for inventing and making it up, you have two more tries of giving valid evidence before I stop wasting time and pat myself on the back.

[Tim2nice]

God was also created by humans. Otherwise he’d show up.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Proof it

[electromagnetic]

https://images.app.goo.gl/yWaxPELVRBdduat86

[Kingofkings1992]

@ChicoFromThe305 One does not prove something doesn’t exist. The onus is 100 percent on you to prove he does

[ChicoFromThe305]

That might be for the most part but when someone claims that it's factual when it doesn't make sense I'm sure anyone would agree it requires proof, the universe creating itself is an effect with no cause and that makes no sense, you dont have any information to back the claims and making such a statement that something doesn't exist is a strong statement when there's no evidence to back that statement, you lived your whole life on the same rock floating in space that's been orbiting the same star for millions of years, claiming something outside of it doesn't exist is going to require some evidence, why should anyone consume your opinion on the existence of a god if all you have to back that opinion is the fact that it was created in that blob inside your head, when i stated my opinion i brought up why i believe it by using logic, the same logic y'all believe in too, now im here waiting for someone to try to explain to me why they believe there's no God, and all i recieve is desperate attempts to avoid doing so, if you dont want to believe then just admit it and save us both some time here because not believing from lack of evidence and being close minded to the idea are two different things.

[ChicoFromThe305]

It's like picking up a cup of water from the ocean and claiming no fish exist because you have no fish in your cup of sea water.

[Kingofkings1992]

No, not really

[just_a_potato]

I think it's highly unethical at the very least

[ChicoFromThe305]

Lol.

[NathanDavis]

everything was weird at some point... then future generations considered it normal

[ChicoFromThe305]

True lol

[NathanDavis]

they probably did it already in secret... a lot of "modern" technology does come out to light after a decade or so... lol

[SotiCoto]

I guess quality over quantity is fine. But I'd rather a little more effort be put into eradicating the excess of humans around right now than pratting about adding more to the number.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Fair point

[jahaims]

China has used tools like crispr to edit genes. It is illegal in most places. On 2018 they made twin females that were immune to hiv. They were trying to make them immune to maleria if I remember correctly. It could be a useful tool in the future but will be abused by people who can afford it. Once they have it down they will be able to increase IQs etc.

[AviatorTom]

I think we should leave Mother Nature alone. Medical advances have come so far that some medical professionals think they are god.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Yep people smh

[SweetJoyGirl]

I think it is an interesting phenomena, especially if it can prevent disease. 🧚🏾‍♀️🫧

[ChicoFromThe305]

I believe it's playing with fire, I always believing messing with nature is waiting for something bad to happen

[SweetJoyGirl]

Yea, that is true. I feel like they would definitely go too far and reach the dangerous end of the spectrum. 😅

[ChicoFromThe305]

Yea they will start making mutants

[SweetJoyGirl]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!!! 🐢 🥷🏾

[ChicoFromThe305]

Sure why not 😂

[SweetJoyGirl]

😂😂😂

[DarkLegacy]

Sounds like something for the modern millennial/Gen Z world

[ChicoFromThe305]

Ikr lol

[CrabCakes11]

I think it’s fine as long as it is to treat deformities and disabilities. Editing trivial things is stupid and can lead to bad outcomes

[lidevip376]

I am a medical student, indeed hereditary diseases can be eliminated, and super soldiers could also be created.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Lmao super soldier sounds fire no lie

[onedarkcloud]

As smart as we think we are I think we are playing RUSSIAN ROULETTE with an automatic when playing with genetics. What could possibly go wrong? Remember MURPHYS LAW whatever could possibly go wrong will go wrong at the worst possible moment.

[jack1924]

If it will help in avoiding genetic deformities or improve body and mind durability, then yes
Other than that, like change eye color or skin color, no need.

[loveslongnails]

It's a double-edged sword. Great things could be done, great damage WILL be done because ultimately, it will be in the hands of despicable, power-driven, evil human fuck ups who will bring about every imaginable horror.

[SweetJoyGirl]

Yea, I agree. It is a double-edged sword.

[OddBeMe]

I think we should ask the embryos. If they don’t complain keep doing it. Maybe they’ll cure my dad’s Alzheimer’s.

[KrakenAttackin]

Yeah, this is crazy stuff and I don't pretend to understand it. I assume genetics from a woman are still needed, but I don't really know.

[Staximus]

Any kind of genetic engineering is shit we should never mess with.

[StudyingAuthor]

WTF! I'd never try that in a million years!

[ChicoFromThe305]

Sounds risky ha

[StudyingAuthor]

nah, im good.

[DextroShade]

I am all for it because I believe in eugenics.

[ChicoFromThe305]

That's fair enough

[7Phoenix7]

It'll be interesting that's for sure

[Tim2nice]

You can’t stop scientific advancement