I am pretty skeptical about it too and when i see people rushing to get it it makes not want to take it even more lol but yea it definitely is suspicious that it came out so fast. Normally vaccines can take years to make and something that can't be rushed.
I got vaccinated the first opportunity I had. Who is to say that it was "rushed" maybe the process for other vaccines are drug out to make more money? The pharmaceutical companies didn't have to drag it out for profits this time here in the USA because the government paid them billions up front.
Its the other way around, the trials cost them money as they need to get past heavy regulations. Skipping that is more profitable since its a shorter development time yet they can still drive the prices up due to high demand.
Those vaccine companies are making tens of billions of dollars on the vaccine. The government is paying them with our tax money. This has always been about profit. That is the only reason why Bill Gates invested so heavily. He said he expects to make back 20x his investment. Fauci will also make $millions.
It made me a bit sick and I felt some muscle discomfort as well as a bit of nausea. I got the first shot yesterday and feel better today. I am still vey happy to be able to get it though... Hell, I was in the military and they vaccinated the shit out of me without asking consent. This time it was actually my willing participation and now I wait for that second shot.. I'm glad I got it.
R. I. p make sure to buy your coffin soon. You’ll be dead less than a year from the time you took the jab, that’s the outcome of morons who watch the fake mainstream media, and don’t research shit,
@Radio4men lol Too sad that that you are one ignorant paranoid fuck who could never actually cut it in the military. Though you would make excellent as cannon fodder to get rid of your deflective genetic line first.. Fucking idiot, wuteva the world needs ditch diggers like you anyway. Go pick so fruit or vegetables while you are at it. Damn migrant workers, just have no real education. That is why you don't need to be here... spreading diseases and shit!
Nothing to do with ignorance or education I just don’t watch a mainstream media how did I know that that’s where you get your information from people like you will find out the hard way actually you’ll find out when your deathbed no matter what anyone says you’re so brainwashed that you’re going to keep using buzzwords I could already tell based on your language where you get the information from.
It is a huge milestone for humans. We can now make RNA virus vaccines for many other diseases which will greatly improve human health now and in the future. Also the basic technology of the vaccine isn't that complicated with a little reading. We have been using this delivery system for more than 10 years for some cancer treatments. You can be skeptical, but in the end this is an amazing achievement.
People who keep saying weird things like skepticism why it was developed quickly when they don't even know the science behind it. We hadn't had a new virus to develop an mRNA vaccine for, and it's not hard virus to tell the t-cells to defeat either.
So many tolerant accepting people in this comment section lol. It's nice to see how accepting they are with others personal choices about what goes/doesn't into their bodies.
That being said, I already had covid and im fine. I resumed my physical training and I've been around many other who have had ot after I was cleared from it. People need to get back to real life and not stay at home
It appears to me that this is a win win. Either you think the vaccine is a good thing and those who don't take it are awafil people so hopefully the virus will infect them and remove their annoysnce from the planet or you think the opposite. Either way, one side is going to win big and the other don't believe in the vaccine.
I took the first round of the Moderna vaccine.. Only thing I had from it was a sore arm of three days. I've been told the second one has the potential to make me sick though.. Not like long term sick, more like 12 to 16 hours. I personally don't care though as long as it works.
Why, I don't understand this thinking. I work for UK gov, like I'm not super high, very much the the opposite, but I don't get this way of thinking. Working in gov is a job. You have shit days you have good days. You do your best. But honestly dude it's just a job. No one is desperately clinging on to power anymore than they cling on to any other job. And no one is secretly plotting to take the world over by stealth. We re not on commission to be more controlling or anything. We will leave our jobs just as you might. We not in it for some long term power play.
@kingofthellamas You are very naive. What specific thing you have said that I consider to be naive is not something that I feel like dedicating more time to.
@kingofthellamas By you're own admission, you're not high up, you're not a public figure, you're not a power broker.
The people I'm talking about are the people at the top, the power brokers, the ones on TV, the ones with long histories of corruption and power grabbing.
They rely on people like you, the ones that are far too trusting, to pressure the ones like me who pay attention and learn.
I guess when you say a long history of corruption and power grabbing you are meaning career politicians are the one's with the secret agenda? A hidden master plan led by such people is an attractive idea. Its existence means all the madness of the world would become clear - if only that hidden plan was known. (Possibly, the reasons why some people get on well in life against more worthy people could be explained too by some overarching hidden agenda). The reality that I see is that people in gov and business are just doing the best to mitigate against challenges that come their way. That is a slightly more frightening thought in a way because it means, no one has clue what is happening or will happen in the future. Terrifying, but more plausible than a hidden plan. A hidden plan could not be implemented at the whim of a few hidden players at the top wanted it to be. It is not how gov works. Working in gov there are a stack load of intern connecting parts on x dept and y agenda and z policy etc. Things happen because of how matters x y and z all connect up. To make things happen to meet a hidden plan would need to control x y and z to force an outcome you want. There is no way of knowing how z y and z might be heat mapped to determine a response because by the time that has been done, a b and c become known and pull implementation another way. Yes I'm a minion and possibly naive. But the more i see that more i just don't see how some master evil plan would or could be implemented. It would need tens of thousands of people to be in on it to help it to be implemented because of all the abc and xyz that create any action. (Action does not happen by the whim of a few corrupt individuals). Its a tired point, but I farted in chemistry class when I was 14 and the whole school knew about that come assembly the next day. You could not keep something like a hidden plan hidden.
@kingofthellamas It doesn't take many being "in on it" to make it happen, it just requires minions to unquestionably follow orders.
Education in the United States is a prime example of a master plan having been executed. Our schools are indoctrination centers for left wing orthodoxy and we can see in the most recent two generations how successful that has been. It's not as hard as you seem to believe.
I don't think you've read my reply. I tried to lay out why that's not plausible. My point is that magement in gov happens in a matrix (of matrices) . And if you've worked in matrix management it pretty much means no one ever gets exactly what they want.
I get that. But Mr McDonald can't cook every burger. He needs people to do that. In gov those people work in a matrix structure with multiple reporting lines. A hidden plan would need thousands of people to be in on it, to know their benefits and hold a silence on it. That's just not probable.
The question would be like asking did you ever thought about lethal injection? if people wanted to stay healthy they would have eat fruits and vegetables and they would moved a lot and would’ve exercised and got a lot of sun light and fresh air. But they don’t, the world is fat and lazy, 99% of people eat only based on pressure and not healing, and inject yourself with aluminum /message/ and other chemicals in hopes to be healthy? Do people think anymore?
I am hesitant about getting the vaccine. But I have a feeling that in the near future, if you want to travel internationally or even just within the country. You will need to have proof that you have received the vaccine. But you don’t need proof of who you are to vote! Sorry. Couldn’t help myself!
Still stay strong, its gonna be tough for us for a while but do not give in. If enough people refuse we can have an impact so they'd be forced to let us travel again. And sooner or later it will come out of how bad the side effects of these vaccines are and then they'd let us free either way. It might take years, but i doubt this is permanent as long as a substantial portion of the population refuses these experimental vaccines.
@sawno unfortunately, I retired with the intention of traveling. Not to stay home in the bunker. Time marches on for us older people. If I were a young female, I would be extremely hesitant about getting the vaccine. Might be fertility problems down the road.
Not just a fertility problem, could also be a death sentence in the long term if you get reintroduced to the virus later on and your immune system detects the viral RNA in your cells.
I already got the vaccine. Don't worry the vaccine is safe. It was thought that the AustroZeneca vaccine caused blood clots but, this was later disproven. The others have had no issues. The reason why the vaccine was approved so quickly is because there was an unusually high amount of funding put towards the vaccine because it was such a severe virus.
I was enthusiastic about it before but I can't ignore the complications occuring which are potential side effects. I still think being vaccinated outweighs the potential damage one suffers as a result of contracting the worst variants of covid-19 but I'm open to alternative views.
My opinion is to do your own research. I trust it because at least in the u. s. they gave been very transparent about everything. You can watch all of the fda’s and cdc’s meetings on it And all of the data is public info that you can find online. I got my first dose of the Pfizer one And I’m getting my second dose next week.
I'ma skip out on that. I haven't caught covid yet. 🤣 I'm pretty careful though, I always wash my hands in public and wear my mask. I'll be glad when we're able to not worry about it anymore. It's on the decline in my area.
I got it over with and I feel fine. I’m dying for other people to take it and get it over with because I’m so sick of this Covid shit and social distancing
yep. waiting for that too. Still can't get one in my area and it drives me nuts. These anti vaxxer idiots could put my Fiancee's life in danger since she's coming up from Colombia. If she got sick because of some anti-vaxxer idiot... man I would be crushed.
It's gene therapy, and it's probably going to either cause infertility which can be cured for a fee or add a cytokine storm kill switch to your body that they can use to cull the population as needed.
In any case, it's the stuff of nightmares.
It also shouldn't be called a vaccine at all because even if it works as advertised, it's not the same, or even a similar technology.
What Girls & Guys Said
Opinion
72Opinion
this is what i think about the vaccine , and the song is 11 years old i think
so im with these guys , no vaccine here !
just listen to the lyrics they predicted covid that long ago
I am pretty skeptical about it too and when i see people rushing to get it it makes not want to take it even more lol but yea it definitely is suspicious that it came out so fast. Normally vaccines can take years to make and something that can't be rushed.
I also think i already got covid in January 2020 because i remember it was so different than any other flew i have ever gotten
It's because the virus came straight out of a virology lab in wuhan specializing in mutations. Google it..
I got vaccinated the first opportunity I had. Who is to say that it was "rushed" maybe the process for other vaccines are drug out to make more money?
The pharmaceutical companies didn't have to drag it out for profits this time here in the USA because the government paid them billions up front.
Its the other way around, the trials cost them money as they need to get past heavy regulations. Skipping that is more profitable since its a shorter development time yet they can still drive the prices up due to high demand.
Those vaccine companies are making tens of billions of dollars on the vaccine. The government is paying them with our tax money. This has always been about profit. That is the only reason why Bill Gates invested so heavily. He said he expects to make back 20x his investment. Fauci will also make $millions.
It made me a bit sick and I felt some muscle discomfort as well as a bit of nausea. I got the first shot yesterday and feel better today. I am still vey happy to be able to get it though... Hell, I was in the military and they vaccinated the shit out of me without asking consent. This time it was actually my willing participation and now I wait for that second shot.. I'm glad I got it.
R. I. p make sure to buy your coffin soon. You’ll be dead less than a year from the time you took the jab, that’s the outcome of morons who watch the fake mainstream media, and don’t research shit,
@Radio4men lol Too sad that that you are one ignorant paranoid fuck who could never actually cut it in the military. Though you would make excellent as cannon fodder to get rid of your deflective genetic line first.. Fucking idiot, wuteva the world needs ditch diggers like you anyway. Go pick so fruit or vegetables while you are at it. Damn migrant workers, just have no real education. That is why you don't need to be here... spreading diseases and shit!
Nothing to do with ignorance or education I just don’t watch a mainstream media how did I know that that’s where you get your information from people like you will find out the hard way actually you’ll find out when your deathbed no matter what anyone says you’re so brainwashed that you’re going to keep using buzzwords I could already tell based on your language where you get the information from.
It is a huge milestone for humans. We can now make RNA virus vaccines for many other diseases which will greatly improve human health now and in the future. Also the basic technology of the vaccine isn't that complicated with a little reading. We have been using this delivery system for more than 10 years for some cancer treatments. You can be skeptical, but in the end this is an amazing achievement.
I was vaccinated in January, and it's fine.
People who keep saying weird things like skepticism why it was developed quickly when they don't even know the science behind it. We hadn't had a new virus to develop an mRNA vaccine for, and it's not hard virus to tell the t-cells to defeat either.
Do your research before you open your trap and talk, which you didn’t Karen,
I got a letter for mine soon I have wanted it for a long time but I jst hope it doesn't play about with my body but it's safe to
So many tolerant accepting people in this comment section lol. It's nice to see how accepting they are with others personal choices about what goes/doesn't into their bodies.
That being said, I already had covid and im fine. I resumed my physical training and I've been around many other who have had ot after I was cleared from it.
People need to get back to real life and not stay at home
It appears to me that this is a win win. Either you think the vaccine is a good thing and those who don't take it are awafil people so hopefully the virus will infect them and remove their annoysnce from the planet or you think the opposite. Either way, one side is going to win big and the other don't believe in the vaccine.
I took the first round of the Moderna vaccine.. Only thing I had from it was a sore arm of three days. I've been told the second one has the potential to make me sick though.. Not like long term sick, more like 12 to 16 hours. I personally don't care though as long as it works.
This sums up my feelings in a single meme
There is no reason to think it is not safe.
There is reason to think there are alterior motives by those in power to get everyone in the world to take it.
Why, I don't understand this thinking. I work for UK gov, like I'm not super high, very much the the opposite, but I don't get this way of thinking. Working in gov is a job. You have shit days you have good days. You do your best. But honestly dude it's just a job. No one is desperately clinging on to power anymore than they cling on to any other job. And no one is secretly plotting to take the world over by stealth. We re not on commission to be more controlling or anything. We will leave our jobs just as you might. We not in it for some long term power play.
@kingofthellamas You are very naive. What specific thing you have said that I consider to be naive is not something that I feel like dedicating more time to.
@kingofthellamas By you're own admission, you're not high up, you're not a public figure, you're not a power broker.
The people I'm talking about are the people at the top, the power brokers, the ones on TV, the ones with long histories of corruption and power grabbing.
They rely on people like you, the ones that are far too trusting, to pressure the ones like me who pay attention and learn.
I guess when you say a long history of corruption and power grabbing you are meaning career politicians are the one's with the secret agenda?
A hidden master plan led by such people is an attractive idea. Its existence means all the madness of the world would become clear - if only that hidden plan was known. (Possibly, the reasons why some people get on well in life against more worthy people could be explained too by some overarching hidden agenda).
The reality that I see is that people in gov and business are just doing the best to mitigate against challenges that come their way. That is a slightly more frightening thought in a way because it means, no one has clue what is happening or will happen in the future. Terrifying, but more plausible than a hidden plan.
A hidden plan could not be implemented at the whim of a few hidden players at the top wanted it to be. It is not how gov works. Working in gov there are a stack load of intern connecting parts on x dept and y agenda and z policy etc. Things happen because of how matters x y and z all connect up.
To make things happen to meet a hidden plan would need to control x y and z to force an outcome you want. There is no way of knowing how z y and z might be heat mapped to determine a response because by the time that has been done, a b and c become known and pull implementation another way.
Yes I'm a minion and possibly naive. But the more i see that more i just don't see how some master evil plan would or could be implemented. It would need tens of thousands of people to be in on it to help it to be implemented because of all the abc and xyz that create any action. (Action does not happen by the whim of a few corrupt individuals).
Its a tired point, but I farted in chemistry class when I was 14 and the whole school knew about that come assembly the next day. You could not keep something like a hidden plan hidden.
@kingofthellamas It doesn't take many being "in on it" to make it happen, it just requires minions to unquestionably follow orders.
Education in the United States is a prime example of a master plan having been executed. Our schools are indoctrination centers for left wing orthodoxy and we can see in the most recent two generations how successful that has been. It's not as hard as you seem to believe.
I don't think you've read my reply. I tried to lay out why that's not plausible. My point is that magement in gov happens in a matrix (of matrices) . And if you've worked in matrix management it pretty much means no one ever gets exactly what they want.
@kingofthellamas I understood what you said, and believe that you sincerely believe that, I just don't believe it.
The bit about matrix working or something else?
@kingofthellamas At your level that is how it works I'm sure.
I'm not talking about your level.
I get that. But Mr McDonald can't cook every burger. He needs people to do that. In gov those people work in a matrix structure with multiple reporting lines. A hidden plan would need thousands of people to be in on it, to know their benefits and hold a silence on it. That's just not probable.
The question would be like asking did you ever thought about lethal injection? if people wanted to stay healthy they would have eat fruits and vegetables and they would moved a lot and would’ve exercised and got a lot of sun light and fresh air. But they don’t, the world is fat and lazy, 99% of people eat only based on pressure and not healing, and inject yourself with aluminum /message/ and other chemicals in hopes to be healthy? Do people think anymore?
I am hesitant about getting the vaccine. But I have a feeling that in the near future, if you want to travel internationally or even just within the country. You will need to have proof that you have received the vaccine.
But you don’t need proof of who you are to vote!
Sorry. Couldn’t help myself!
Still stay strong, its gonna be tough for us for a while but do not give in. If enough people refuse we can have an impact so they'd be forced to let us travel again. And sooner or later it will come out of how bad the side effects of these vaccines are and then they'd let us free either way. It might take years, but i doubt this is permanent as long as a substantial portion of the population refuses these experimental vaccines.
@sawno unfortunately, I retired with the intention of traveling. Not to stay home in the bunker.
Time marches on for us older people.
If I were a young female, I would be extremely hesitant about getting the vaccine.
Might be fertility problems down the road.
Not just a fertility problem, could also be a death sentence in the long term if you get reintroduced to the virus later on and your immune system detects the viral RNA in your cells.
I already got the vaccine. Don't worry the vaccine is safe. It was thought that the AustroZeneca vaccine caused blood clots but, this was later disproven. The others have had no issues. The reason why the vaccine was approved so quickly is because there was an unusually high amount of funding put towards the vaccine because it was such a severe virus.
I was enthusiastic about it before but I can't ignore the complications occuring which are potential side effects. I still think being vaccinated outweighs the potential damage one suffers as a result of contracting the worst variants of covid-19 but I'm open to alternative views.
My opinion is to do your own research. I trust it because at least in the u. s. they gave been very transparent about everything. You can watch all of the fda’s and cdc’s meetings on it And all of the data is public info that you can find online. I got my first dose of the Pfizer one And I’m getting my second dose next week.
I'ma skip out on that. I haven't caught covid yet. 🤣 I'm pretty careful though, I always wash my hands in public and wear my mask. I'll be glad when we're able to not worry about it anymore. It's on the decline in my area.
I got it over with and I feel fine. I’m dying for other people to take it and get it over with because I’m so sick of this Covid shit and social distancing
yep. waiting for that too. Still can't get one in my area and it drives me nuts. These anti vaxxer idiots could put my Fiancee's life in danger since she's coming up from Colombia. If she got sick because of some anti-vaxxer idiot... man I would be crushed.
It's gene therapy, and it's probably going to either cause infertility which can be cured for a fee or add a cytokine storm kill switch to your body that they can use to cull the population as needed.
In any case, it's the stuff of nightmares.
It also shouldn't be called a vaccine at all because even if it works as advertised, it's not the same, or even a similar technology.