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President Biden is dropping the hammer on the unvaccinated. Is this a good idea? (Page 2)
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I have faith in the people who developed the vaccine and take the doctors words over a politicians for that reason im vaccinated to protect those I love and others around me. I consider myself right leaning ( because im vaccinated doesn't mean i like joe biden or those crooks) but after this pandemic I've decided to reconsider if I am right leaning after seeing ridiculous claims that the vaccine has tracker (despite majority of people having a smart phone in their pocket) 5 g conspiracy theories with Bill Gates 🙄 despite a microwave having more radiation. Having right wing religious nuts saying it's all in gods hands and dismissing concerns about vulnerable people in the community. Then asking the same people their views on abortion and pro life stance yet my body my choice when it comes to wearing a mask. This pandemic has shown no matter how advanced we become with technology we are still animals /primates.
I morally object but fiscally approve. Vaccine manufacturers are largely immune from responsibility so volantarily taking a new drug is an uninsured risk. With these new mandates people will be taking it under duress from the government and the government is fully capable of being held liable in court were any consiquences to later present.
LOL! Good luck.
I will sue anti-vaxxers for endangering my family's health then.
SUPER BURN!!
I don't think danger if not realised into actual harm can go anywhere (it's a bit like going after people who smoke for increasing your risk of lung cancer). Also the vaccine doesn't prevent spread so everyone you encounter regardless is endangering your families health... Even worse as you are 21 you are likely to go symptom free so by interacting with your own family you are endangering their health.
That's the problem with diseases, they don't care about anyone's morality.
Medical evidence, virologist?
Even WORSE as you are a doofus, you have been blocked. Go troll someplace else. Thanks :)
For the record, I am vaccinated but I don't think people should be forced to get it. I also think they should proceed at their own precaution without government help. It's time the U. S. gets it's crap together so we can move on from COVID and focus on more important issues.
Your poll doesn't cover the full range of possible opinions. What Biden is doing is autocratic and ethically dubious. However given the unreasonable resistance to vaccination the only alternative is to let Covid run rampant throughout the nation. And if that happens the buck stops squarely with Joe Biden.
You know, it would be nice if getting the vaccine was “your choice” and everyone just made the RIGHT choice to get it. Unfortunately there’s a bunch of idiots who want to make the wrong choice. It’s like taking care of babies, sometimes the adults need to get together and start kicking babies. Not literally.
Also you, @smashingdoozy and @purplepoppy are my favourite girls on GAG, always on point with every opinion love you guys.
I have faith in the people who develop the vaccine and take the doctors words over a politicians for that reason im vaccinated to protect those i love and others around me. I consider myself right leaning ( because im vaccinated doesn't mean i like joe biden or those crooks) but after this pandemic I've decided to reconsider if I am right leaning after seeing ridiculous claims that the vaccine has tracker (despite majority of people having a smart phone in their pocket) 5 g conspiracy theories with bull Gates 🙄 despite a microwave having more radiation. Having right wing religious nuts saying it's all in gods hands and dismissing concerns about vulnerable people in the community. Then asking the same people their views on abortion and pro life stance yet my body my choice when it comes to wearing a mask. This pandemic has shown no matter how advanced we become with technology we are still animals /primates
@Lj0011 Absolutely agree. It's fascinating on one level, pathetic on another.
I answer none of the above. The Federal government caused this mess along with the mass media. How? Because they destroyed their own credibility and no one believes them anymore. The government and the media lie… continually, so this is the result.
The vaccine is the best thing for those people but we can’t force people to take it. It is their choice. In ten years we may find out it caused side effects, medications often are found to cause diseases or serious issues when at first they thought they were safe. And was at happens when the government wants us all to take something else that’s less significant/. It’s a slippery slope.
With a credible government and media this would have been an easy steel to 80-90% of people. Now we get mandates and threats… no, fuck that.
The liars were the Trump people though. Trump admitted on tape to downplaying the virus because it made him look bad. Then he walked around maskless, misleading everybody until he caught covid, almost died, and got a wake up call. Then he got vaccinated in secret and now all of his sheep don't know what the fuck to do.
Biden never lied about the virus. Sure, some details may be confusing to the less intelligent among us, but Biden never tried to trick people like Trump. What that doofus did was sinful.
@supercutebutt the Liar is Anthony Fauci who funneled tax dollars against the law to the Wuhan lab to fund gain of function research and then lied about it to Congress. He needs to be hung for treason.
@joeldalton Oh please.
@supercutebutt Oh please what? Prove me wrong. What did I say that was incorrect? Again, are you a troll or really this ignorant?
@joeldalton You believe every filthy morsel of right-wing propaganda, don't you?
www.snopes.com/.../
@supercutebutt lol, SNOPES? Really? Lmao. How about Newsweek? Or is that too “right-wing” for you?
www.newsweek.com/fauci-untruthful-congress-wuhan-lab-research-documents-show-gain-function-1627351
@joeldalton Dude, you are twisting the truth and it is shameful. You seriously believe Fauci developed and unleashed covid-19 on the world? It was some evil plot? Give me a break.
Newsweek contacted the NIH for comment from Fauci and received this statement: "NIH has never approved any research that would make a coronavirus more dangerous to humans.
"The research we supported in China, where coronaviruses are prevalent, sought to understand the behavior of coronaviruses circulating in bats that have the potential to cause widespread disease. The body of science produced by this research demonstrates that the bat coronavirus sequences published from that work NIH supported were not SARS-CoV-2.
"More importantly, because of similar research to understand coronaviruses, we were able to move swiftly to develop vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 and save lives."
Fauci directed funds from the NIH to support gain of function research in the wuhan lab because it was illegal to do here. Congress had banned gain of function research. The wuhan lab released the virus on the world - whether it was intentional or accidental is unclear. Fauci pushed the ‘it was chinese people eating bats” lie to cover his ass. He lied to congress when questioned abut it. All of this came up in his emails and these documents. This really isn’t in dispute.
Oh wait, you’re telling me the very person guilty of funding the lab claims they had nothing to do with it? Oh…I stand corrected.
Holy shit.
@joeldalton You are falling victim to conspiracy theories which rarely (if ever) turn out to be true. Propagandists spin tales to lure in people to make $$$ or just to feel important. A grain of truth surrounded by a bunch of BS or the slightest bit of suspicious coincidence suddenly becomes an evil plot. What would Fauci gain by causing a pandemic? Are you of the belief that he is profiting off of the vaccines?
Conspiracy the Roy’s are used by both sides. It wouldn’t work on a significant scale with a credible media and government. Ten years ago the credibility was destroyed over a series of lies for a decade… and Snopes is shit as the lean way Left and are liars as well.
Conspiracy is used by both sides*
Back up your claims about Snopes.
Honestly over a period of years I have checked them for facts and came away with my conclusion that they are not credible for politics. I won’t back it up as that takes time and effort and is unlikely to change your mind. Its just not worth the effort.
@Jersey2 Right. So you have no proof. You simply don't like facts that go against your world view. What you have is called "confirmation bias." You only believe stuff that confirms your previously held biases.
Easy peasy
www.forbes.com/.../?sh=af38b0d227f8
Ya huh. I been down that road before on other items and one can’t convince people who aren’t willing to give it an honest review. You were like ten when the media starting lying for Obama so you don’t really know that much in the scheme of things. And no, I’m not 104. I’m done, have a good one.
@supercutebutt see here is how you are falling off the rails. I never said Fauci caused the pandemic. I was very clear on that point. He funded the lab with your tax dollars that was doing gain-of-function research that was banned in the US. THAT lab released cov2 virus. It may have been accidental, it may have been intentional.
He knew the NIH was funding that lab and lied about it to Congress and the American public.
He lied about masks. He admitted he lied about masks.
how you still cheerlead for him is absolutely baffling.
Was this one of the plagarized articles at Snopes? Was it one of the articles the cofounder embezzled from in order to allegedly hire hookers?
news.yahoo.com/...t-checking-snopes-141929035.html
@genuinlysensitive What do you have against hookers? Trump got much needed coital pleasure from one when Melania's sniz was sore after giving birth to Barron. That's when we learned he has a mushroom peen. :)
Its a sham and I know it because if Biden or anyone else cared about preventing a virus from spreading they would have outlawed hand driers since they mist the air with all the germs on your hands. The masks and vaccines are there for control
What about hair driers that mist the air with germs from your head?
I'm not sure as I'm a layman in virology and medicine. Mythbusters have confirmed that paper towels are superior in preventing the spread of pathogens though, and most don't use their hair drier in public restrooms
You are correct about the hand dryers. They blow stuff all over.
Some states and schools are discontinuing then I've found as well
“The new requirements could apply to as many as 100 million Americans“
This is sensationalized, a good chunk of that number will be people already vaccinated, so the number is way lower for the amount of people who will directly be affected, most of those will just get the vaccine
“ The new "emergency temporary standard" from the Labor Department will require large employers to give their workers paid time off to get vaccinated.”
WTF? I had to go in on MY OWN DAY OFF ON MY OWN TIME to get vaccinated EARLY and you SOMBISHES are complaining about literally being paid ON COMPANY TIME to get a vaccine.🤷♂️
“ In his speech, the President directed the Labor Department to require all businesses with 100 or more employees ensure their workers are either vaccinated or tested once a week.”
WTF AGAIN! You don’t even HAVE to get the vaccine, you just have to q tip your nose once a week. Like 🤷♂️ Like I don’t have any more words
Does not matter what the right or wrong answer is. People are going to believe what they want.
One problem with this mandate is at our docks. Right now the los Angeles port is only offloading 1 cargo ship every 5 to 7 days instead of 1 every 2 to 3 day because roughly half of their employees and truck drivers can't work. Now the market i work for is losing money waiting on products that are months out.
Mandate could be a idea, but who is to say whats good or bad.
absolutely. that's how you devide society to get a civil war. hitler already did that before and it works great. but for the people, it means rough times.
Educated people on here refusing to believe the words of medical professionals, and using stupid internet articles written by some moron who knows nothing about medicine for justification appalls me. Why does everyone in America turn every single thing about politics? Most of the Indians are vaccinated and they're doing just fine. If everyone has developed "natural immunity", then why are there people still dying?
Yes, its a good idea, but I'm afraid it'd be of no use
Just take the damn vaccine unless you have medical reasons.
Seriously its sooo simple
No..
It isn't about the vaccine. It is about setting the legal precedent that your employer, government, school can 1. Have access to your medical records 2. Decide what medicine you take when in what dose 3. Fire people who do something medically they don't like.
@genuinlysensitive “ Fire people who do something medically they don't like.”
Feel free to work elsewhere. Thats what you conservatives always say anyways right?
if they can force this , they can take every right away we have
You can't that is the point. Comply or you don't work. Funny how its only Western countries though. Just like the climate mandates from the UN, China, Russia, and India are completely exempt. It is just Western countries like the US.
@888theGreat Is this one of your "pro-life" obsessions? You hate seeing a virus die?
@genuinlysensitive feel free to quit. You’re still free to choose
If we can't force you to get it, we'll inconvenience your daily life Until you get it.
Same thing happening here.
Still not getting it
Slow joe is wrong 7 months ago America was just fine
Now the dumbass is leading us into a civil war. The must be 3 things to start a civil war has been meet by him so keep pissing offf the 75 million Trump voters you president dumbass you are starting a cival war
Dude, go try and start this "civil war" of yours.
You will be sent home to Jesus faster than you can say "Hang Mike Pence"
DoOf.
@supercutebutt and who is gonna send us home to Jesus? All the coward beta males who are scared of a virus with a 99% recovery rate wearing a mask hiding in their homes? We could take this country anytime we want it.
Forcing someone to get vaccinated is a form of bullying. Nothing good ever comes of bullying.
Vaxxed and hopeful to see more vaxx mandates in place. Including in Canada.
Both my employers require vaccinations. I agree with it and support it.
It’s hilarious because a bunch of republicans who work in the federal gov are now gonna have to quit their jobs over political ideology. I can’t stop laughing
I’m laughing because their gonna be no health care workers
@kc_4308 Yes, but only in Western countries that mandate the vaccine to work. Russia and China are immune. Almost like it is a plan to collapse the West.
Lol 😆 - I’m only gonna service unvaccinated patients
As a nurse
A 54 year old man who thinks this way. Smdh.
Look at the butthurt republican boys who hate reality. Reagan has been dead for a long time losers
@genuinlysensitive Almost?
@kc_4308 It has already begun.
www.wwnytv.com/.../
Ah, good old manipulation and coercion on your own country.
This is making people more opposed to the vaccine you realize this?
Time to get vaxxed, friend. :)
I am vaxxed just believe in freedom
The freedom to spread disease so the rest of us have no freedom?
Uh yeah. The freedom to spread disease. That’s what humans do. Also the freedom to have complete bodily autonomy. Since you’re vaccinated I don't know why you’re so worried. you never wanted to bitch at people about the flu shot.
Our country is locked down, my cognitively challenged friend. People can't go to the hospital in some areas cuz the freedom people are taking up all the beds. And I have to walk around work wearing a fucking mask because freedom fighters are afraid of a needle.
Sweet lord my country has gone stupid. :(
Stupid idea. Unvaxed people will just quit their jobs. There is already a shortage of workers everywhere and this will just make it worse.
It is a smart idea. Only dummies aren't vaccinated at this point. Employers are itching to fire the stupid. Now they finally have an excuse. :)
Nobody is itching to fire anyone. And no that is not true. Anything medical like that needs to be left up to each individual person. There is no reason to force it on people that don't want it
There is a BIG reason to mandate vaccines. It will end the pandemic :)
yep, and then economy collapses because no businesses can operate. The problem is that liberals don't understand how businesses work.
no it won't , it is here forever. It only killed our "weak" , not healthy people
@888theGreat Companies will run smoother with a vaccinated workforce. Less sick days. Furthermore, companies will be better off with the stubborn dummies gone.
In my last company meeting only about 20% of the oil fields workforce was vaccinated and are widely against mandates. If this goes through, they’ll most likely quit which will lead to shutdowns and skyrocketing energy and gas prices. Nobody has considered the consequences, they’re just stuck in their cult like one track mindset.
Funny how it didn't end the pandemic in highly vaccinated countries like Isreal.
@Apple1996 It's already happening
www.wwnytv.com/.../
if that was the case you would never find a job