Of course
No. She is the victim not the abuser
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Quite literally, the jury is still out on this case. Until the jury renders a verdict in this CIVIL case involving defamation, no judgment is rendered nor should be. So, anyone answering A or B is not very cognizant of the law and would make a shitty citizen, let alone, a juror.
Meanwhile, you and most everyone else needs to learn about the law...
Domestic violence is a CRIMINAL offense.
Criminal offenses involve anything from fines to prison time.
Criminal cases have titles like "New York v. Smith" which, in this case, the State of New York is PROSECUTING the DEFENDANT aka "The Accused", Smith. If the jury finds Smith guilty, then New York wins and Smith is convicted, is no longer a defendant, but becomes a convict if there is jail time. The sentence - the penalty that the convicted must serve/pay/do - occurs after the trial.
In CIVIL cases, like ones involving defamation, the process is different.
Civil cases have names like "Jones v. Smith". In this particular case, Jones is the PLAINTIFF. Jones is suing Smith claiming that Smith wrongfully did something that brought harm to Jones, so Jones is taking Smith to court seeking a "prayer for relief" meaning that Jones wants Smith to pay Jones for the harm that Smith did to Jones. Meanwhile, Smith is the RESPONDENT. In this case, if "the Court finds for the Plaintiff", then Smith loses and Jones wins, but the Court may not give Jones everything that Jones wanted... or might even give Jones more depending on the situation. The judge needs to make a determination for what is equitable justice in the case. However, Smith is not The Accused... Smith will not be sentenced or due prison time or pay any fines.
Put another way:
In CRIMINAL CASES:
The government ("The people") is asserting that a person has committed a crime: they are asserting that the accused has violated a law (which, in an abstract sense, harms society).
Anyway, the confrontation is between the government and a person.
In CIVIL CASES:
One person or group, the Plaintiff, is asserting ("complaining") that another person or group has harmed them in some way.
But, unlike in criminal cases, in civil cases, the confrontation is between two groups of people ("parties"). The government does not feel that "the people" have been harmed nor any laws have been broken. Instead, via the court system, the government is mediating the dispute between the parties.
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So, bottom line: Neither Amber Heard nor Johnny Depp will be "sentenced" for defamation because their dispute is a civil matter and not a criminal one.
As for domestic violence, that is up to the discretion of local district attorney's office where that violence allegedly occurred. If they have insufficient evidence to get a conviction - or even enough to persuade a grand jury to allow them to go to trial - then they will not prosecute.
Just so you know what he was dealing with, he got called into a meeting, and it turns out that his financial managers had stolen his entire $650M fortune, AND left him with a $100M tax debt. As you might imagine, the meeting ran long.
Because he was late coming home, Amber got mad and literally pooped on his side of the bed. Because everything is ALWAYS about HER. She and her friends fabricated evidence, staged photos, had to be dragged into court 5 times before they finally delivered court-ordered discovery evidence (and still didn't deliver many of them by trial), and has admitted in audio recordings that she hit Johnny, on several occasions, and would scream and make hit and threaten when he tried to walk away.
Her and her friends told stories that were very different from Johnny's stories, and then it was finally admitted that there was police body cam footage. That footage matches up with Johnny's story and directly conflicts with Amber's. It goes on and on like that.
Of course, she should be in jail. She is a bad person. However, did not he know what kind of person she is? I mean you propably will hear something about a person before dating them. Amper has been celebrity for so long time, dated so many guys etc and in such celebrity circles you would know something about her before dating her. Women also get accused of dating bad boys for having bad experiences with men, so why should not blame him for dating a b** on purpose but regret it
I always notice that a guy may be a fboy/badboy when talking to them and i dont need years to know that someone may be a bad person. People usually expose their personality/mentality in a short time.
I can't feel bad anymore for anyone for having shit relationship experiences because it is most of time their own fault for ignoring the red flags or leaving the person as soon as the person does something bad. Johny should have left her after seeing the first red flag. This all does not justify abuse etc of course. I am just saying that you should be very careful and wise when dating to avoid possible danger
I can't feel bad anymore for anyone for having shit relationship experiences because it is most of time their own fault for ignoring the red flags or for NOT leaving the person as soon as the person does something bad. ***
Women tend to hide their shitty side better than men do.
Sources?
You still can leave her after seeing the first red flag and nobody can hide their shitty behaviour 7/24 for very long time. In the most of the cases you will notice some of her bad behaviour in few months or max in one year
Ok psychopaths can hide their personality for very long time but lets be realistic. Majority of people ain't psychopaths
If you think majority of people ain't psychopaths, you're probably a psychopath
No i think you are the one haha. Whatever. Sofar i remember only 1 or less than 1% of population are psychopaths. Wait i will look up
"Psychopathy affects approximately 1 percent of the United States general population and 20 percent to 30 percent of the male and female U. S. prison population. Relative to non-psychopathic criminals, psychopaths are responsible for a disproportionate amount of repetitive crime and violence in society." Quick google search
@SolitarySolace she's right. He could have avoided Her. But oh wait! Men are visual creatures. So long the cover is pretty, they don't care.
For me, the prettier a woman is, the more obligated I am to stay the F away from them. They tend to be the ones with the shittiest personalities and means. I mean, look at Amber. She's extremely attractive, yet she's also a Misandristic narcissistic psychopath. 🤷🏻♂️
@SolitarySolace Good for you.
source* Trust me bro lol :))
i think you meant 24/7 you had it backwards with 7/24
What source? What are you talking about?
Learn to read
usually whever people go Source the common response now is Trust me bro. not that you're a guy but it's just a common response for that type of source question
What do you take? What are you on lol
I understand but your reply still does not make
Sense
'Trust me bro' is said when someone act like they talk about facts. Nowhere I say it is fact whatever jonny did
I am just judging, questioning, critizising the mentality of some people or the society.
So what source you want?
geez lighten up
Johnny Depp was an idiot...
Completely caught up in the list of a woman far too young for him.
Does that mean he deserves what she's done?
No!
She was vindictive, she took those photos for the sole purpose of embarrassing and harassing him to pay up!
Look I don't claim to know him and I never would presume.
He hit her and that was wrong.
But in his defence I think it was in defence of her madness.
If all his other partners have said he's not a violent man. She clearly brought something out in him that wasn't his default which cries defense!
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This is just disturbing and sad, really shows how little some people respect or care about men.
All the evidence showing how abusive of a bitch she was and people still defend her? And she wasn't even doing it to an average guy, it's Johhny fucking Depp... and people still don't fucking care.
He's lost jobs and you know, WAS ABUSED and this intitled bitch thinks she can get him for defamation of character? Why cause he devended himself against false accusations and brought the truth to life? He didn't make her look like a peice of shit, she did, cause she is a piece of shit. Sorry you can't handle people knowing what you really are.
The current case is for defamation, but it’s weird that she hasn’t been hit with domestic violence yet. Maybe it’s because there’s not beyond a reasonable doubt evidence and Johnny’s own poor (albeit not violent against amber) conduct makes him look too bad. Can’t wait to see them tear down amber on cross examination.
They have to get through Johnny's case-in-chief first, who knows how long that will be. They've been allotted 6 weeks for trial, so there's plenty of time to call more people. I think it will be at least a couple of weeks and then the defense will call Amber because she definitely wants to get up and say her piece. They'll probably spend at least a day on direct then we'll get to see cross. My hope is that they're saving a bunch more damning recordings that are worse than the stuff they played during Johnny's direct. Right now, there's no evidence of violence against Amber, but all the texts and recordings make them seem like two people perfectly wrong for each other. Like amber is violent, but they're both crazy. Johnny texts like madman and it reads somewhat badly in a courtroom. But it's also kinda funny.
Yeah, and some of the texts on cross showed that he spoke like that even when he was being apologetic and endearing, which really disarms a lot of the bad language. Seems like a mistake from Heard's lawyers.
I’m convinced he’s lying on purpose just to mess with the guy questioning him. I think he’s contradicting the UK trial testimony to undermine impeaching him.
I would say no, if I didn't feel deep down in my sole that men are persecuted all the time, by public opinion. Even when they are not arrested or are some how vindicated legally they are not rewarded or protected from abuse and damage women cause to their reputation. I really hate to see the courts get involved in these things, but the truth is that people can literally say what ever they want about other people, and the bar for defamation is impossible high to prove. Too many people hid behind their freedom of speech to almost say anything in the hopes of destroying someone without any legal liability to themselves.
Why is this even a question? This lady abused the shit out of Depp. There are recordings of her verbal, emotional, and psychological abuse; Johnny was sent to the ER for serious injuries, and more. It's insane the amount of evidence against her, yet so many people are on the fence about it and dare call Depp that abuser.
I haven't really looked too much into the story but in my opinion, sure sue her for defamation. But she shouldn't be charged with domestic violence. That would take away from the severity of domestic violence if every time a rich guy got slandered, his ex was an abuser. Domestic violence is a disgusting cycle of abuse, not a loss of profit.
She admitted to hitting him im pretty sure.
@David_Kek I'm not an expert on the case. Domestic violence is a tricky subject and personally, if she's not being charged with domestic violence, I'd kinda worry that his lawyer was simply trying to paint her in a bad light. I think the two charges should be separate because of the severity of it.
If she actually did hit him and throw glass bottles at him, then yes, I think she should be charged as long as Depp wants that. Domestic violence charges, they shouldn't be charged without the victim's agreement because then you're putting the victim through a cross-exam and the humiliation of a trial.
You haven't looked into this case, even looking into some of the basic facts that can be found with a 5 minute search. So i can only ask, why have you gave your uninformed opinion on this case? You are not qualified to judge what she should or shouldn't be sued or charged for, when you genuinely have no idea what you are talking about on what she has or hasn't done.
If you think domestic violence is a subject that needs to be taken very seriously in society, then your response to domestic violence accusations that you do not conclusively know about, shouldn't be to assume anything, but rather it should be to listen and ask questions. That mentality of assumption from ignorance is one of the main issues with DV in society.
@David_Kek Totally gonna admit fault in this one. Thanks for calling me out, it was deserved 🙂 (by the way this is completely genuine!!). I kept hearing about the case in the news and read a few articles on it but before talking today I should've watched the most recent developments.
@Femphile_xoxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WEIIl5u8FE
This is just one of the recordings of her verbal/emotional abuse, her admitting to instigating fights because Depp going to different rooms to avoid conflict, and her admitting to physically abusing Depp but justifying it because the hit wasn't a punch. It gets worse.
Depp is exhibiting all the signs of a battered individual. Yes, he's a man who could easily fight back, but he loves her. Even when she sent him to the ER he lied about how he got his injuries to protect her even when the doctors called bullshit. If it helps, imagine Depp as a woman and Heard as a man, would your opinion remain the same?
I used to have a hugeeeee crush on amber heard back in the day. But what she did to Johnny Depp, I lost my respect for her. That story between Depp and Heard when it first broke out I thought she would be let go and not even get a slap on the wrist.
I thought Johnny Depp would be “cancelled” and shunned by society. I’m not sure how Hollywood will approach Amber Heard for new roles. But we live in a superficial society and she is beautiful regardless and will still be casted. That’s the cold hard truth.
She absolutely should. She has a very powerful weapon though. She has a vagina, which in cases like this is basically a get out of jail free card. Its sad that in this day and age that so many people believe that women simply can't be abusers..
Yup.
I have seen videos from the trial, and her lawyer really isn't helping her 🤣
And the woman is psycho. She was smirking and laughing when they listened to the tape (in which she basically admits she abused him).
Of course. She's literally a piece of sh*t. On Johnny Depp's bed, no less!
Absolutely. She is a Misandrist who is friends with our equally as Misandristic vice president.
"No one will believe you because you are a man" - Amber Heard
I hope she rots in prison for her false accusations. For causing Depp to lose jobs, and for the trauma and abuse she caused him in general.
It's scary to imagine how she went from the finest woman on the planet in the movie Never Back Down, to a bat shit crazy, abusive bitch. Gotta be the drugs.
Johnny Depp isn't exactly an angel, but I feel bad for him in this case. She should be locked up and someone should throw away the key.
It is absolutely clear that Amber Heard was the abuser in this relationship.
Not only did she physically and emotionally brutalize Johnny Depp, but she also went out of her way to destroy his career.
Yes, she should be sentenced for domestic violence and defamation.
She won't be, our retarded society worships women and hates men. Even when there's fucking video and audio to prove she's in the wrong. Feminists and simps are literally the scum of the earth and should burn in hell for what they've done to the western world.
If she is found guilty in court the a sentence is a given, but it will come down to the judge what the sentence will be, I have feeling that Depp would be satisfied if she was found guilty for the DV, but he only received a nominal amount in damages for the defamation as Heard would have still been found guilty of it, and both guilty verdicts found.
She definitely seems to be the abuser in that toxic relationship. She should face some consequences for not only the DV but her tanking Depp's career.
I will not be watching Aquaman 2 just because of her.
Well, it sounds like he had audio evidence. I don’t know the authenticity of said recordings. But if they are indeed true. Yes.. she should be sentenced. Again, if his was him doing it to hear, they would have already thrown him in jail and locked away the key
they were BOTH the abusers, they both did wrong they both need to admit they were wrong and they both should have to deal with the punishment.
i am no fan of amber but i think that she is also a victim here. the whole relationship was a mess from the get-go and just went from bad to worst for everyone.
If she is found guilty by a competent court of law then she should be sentenced as much as a man would. Equality doesn't mean only equal rights and privileges but equal responsibilities and penalties also.
And charity fraud in Australia. And for trying to suppress via dubious means various YouTube channels that exposed her. Johnny, if he deserves anything, he's already got it. His career is in ruins. Jack Sparrow is done.
She sure should. Johnny Depp was a great actor and had a good career before she messed him up. Sadly the court will probably vindicate her because she is another blonde white woman.
Johnny Depp is the victim but nobody wants to discuss it because he's a rich white guy
I'm looking for reasons to care about what celebs do and I can't find any. How about sentencing Biden to death for the Afghanistan pull out and abandonment of Americans?
Honestly, both should go each their own way. Don't know enough to point fingers and as with most disputes, they should go to therapy rather than court.
She isn’t the abuser, Depp is. She had pictures of herself with black and blues. I believe Depp, as much as I
love him as an actor, has a temper. I can imagine him beating her. So no, she should not be charged at all for something that wasn’t her fault.
She did those herself to keep up the appearance as though he did when he didn't! She's currently lying her pretty little ass of in court. Faking an injury sounds exactly like something she'd do. Especially for someone who says "No one will believe you because you're a man!" -Amber Heard
Defending her is just as bad.
I hear Amber is facing 10 years in prison for her lies
Good thing you are not my mother or grandmother. Would have abused the fuck out of me and then try to reverse is, by playing victim or saying the child was crazy.
@AvaOneLasTime lmao but there's so much hard evidence against her, basically everyone who worked with them says she was verbally abusive to him and screamed at him all the time. Is that how a woman who's getting beaten acts?
Also there are claims that she did those bruises to herself after she severed (as in detached) his finger from his hand.
Literally nobody who works with them thinks she's telling the truth. This case is disgusting.
@Telekinetic-Potato
I know that he almost lost a finger, due to her throwing a bottle at him.
I mean, what kinda self-defense is deliberately throwing a bottle at someone's head.
@SolitarySolace She won't serve a day.
He isn’t the abuser, Heard is. He has an ER photo of himself taken by another person for injures inflected by Heard. I believe Heard, as much as I love her as an actor, has a temper that's evident from the recordings of her verbal/emotional/psychological abuse and serious injuries to Depp. I can imagine her beating him. So yes, she should be charged for something that was completely her fault.
Not sure if you had a head injury that affected your common sense, but I fixed that paragraph for you. You're welcome.
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@AvaOneLasTime My question is--what did he do to her that made her throw a bottle at him in self defense? I say--no one saw what happend except for them and God. Here people are blaming her and saying she's lying--what is she wasn't? Maybe he's got better lawyers. I know hw has a drinking problem. Who orders 45 bottles (or more) of wine each month? He does.
@SolitarySolace How do you know he didn't? Neither of us were there. I know he drinks a lot. Bad temper. Just because he didn't do anything to Paradis, doesn't mean he wasn't that way with Heard.
@Amy10223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WEIIl5u8FE
Oh really? Here's a video of Heard verbally abusing Depp and admitting to physically assaulting him. If your brain doesn't turn on to see the abuse for what it is, then you're probably a misandrist.
Throwing a bottle at someone's head, making the person protect his head and lose a finger is not, I repeat, IS NOT self-defense.
If I throw a knife at you, would that be self-defense?
I don't recall heard ever explaining how he abused her. Nowhere in any of the video footage I've seen did he even touch her. There's picture evidence that she severed his finger right down to the bone. There's picture of him lying on a bed in the ER. I don't recall seeing any pictures of Amber in the ER if she was oh so badly abused by Depp, a man, she would have been in a hospital in critical condition... Yet there's no evidence of her being in the hospital in critical condition. Yet there is in Depp's case... @Amy10223
Maybe you shouldn't defend a liar just because she's a woman 🤷🏻♂️
Not a pretty sight, but it has to be seen - pagesix.com/.../
Life is not all roses and wine, after all.
@SolitarySolace Maybe you should understand that if a bottle hit your finger and severed it, you could lose a lot of blood, need stitches etc and would need to be in a hospital for that. Bruises on your face don’t require all that.
Well, Johnny had stitches. And has audio tapes as well. He might be a junkie, but that does automatically means he is a wife-beater. Some junkies are just... Junkies.
@SolitarySolace guys have you seen how her laywer got caught lying?
She said she had to hide the bruises in 2016 by using the product that first was launched in 2017.
I did hear about that, @Marish01. Heard is so screwed. Hopefully all of her lies catch up to her and the justice system does what it's supposed to do instead of relying on Misandristic tendencies. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how things end up going. We are living in a Misandristic society in America. A Misandristic society that claims it isn't a Misandristic society.
@SolitarySolace whatever they do to a man is not misandry. Just role reverse and see how misogynistic it is.
Amber Heard has a terrible personality disorder and is a liar and a domestic abuser. She needs psychiatric help and she also needs to be in jail.
She doesn't look like they type of girls who take the victim role in a relationship. Nevertheless personal opinions don't matter, the court has to figure out who is was the victim and who abuser.
Wow... those poor souls saying she is the victim should get brain surgery
She needs to be convicted before she can be sentenced for anything. And defamation is just another word for slander, and slander’s not a crime.
That’s a special case. Falsely accusing someone of a crime is a crime. I meant like slander in general.
Right. But she still needs to be convicted before you can sentence her. She hasn’t even been charged with a crime by the police yet (I don’t think). They’re fighting over money rn.
Slander is a crime. It's illegal in the United States to say anything about someone which can negatively affect them and is not true.
For example, if I said to your employer that you're supposed to be a felon but you worked out a deal at the end and then you got fired, you could sue me for defamation for the value of the lost opportunity (damages) which could easily be with hundreds of thousands.
Which is essentially what heard did to depp
@Telekinetic-Potato right. But that’s not a crime you go to jail over. That’s something you sue over (I forget the technical term).
Nothing has been proven yet, it’s still in court!
At the moment, neither party is innocent nor guilty, that is for the judge to decide.
yes, she should just like any other guy would be held accountable
This is the kind of bullshit you get when the retarded narrative of just believing someone because they have a pussy is propagated. This bitch should rot.
If she's guilty of falsely accusing Depp, then yes.
I have no idea, I've never heard of this person before.
It's not my place to make judgement on her. I haven't seen all the evidence. Let the justice system prevail.
I've got to be honest. I don't follow it. I know they are both accusing each other of stuff.
They just need to stay away from each other.
If it was the other way around he would be in jail awaiting sentencing yet because it’s a woman people are considering whether or not to even sentence equality deez nuts 🙄
Why don’t you women ever get angry at these bimbos who ruin good men
yes, indeed. she should be barred from starting in any other movies as well
If she is found guilty she should.. women are capable of violence, as are men..
I'm not sure. I don't know all of the facts of the case.
Absolutely if it was a guy he would be so it should be the same for women who are abusive
She nearly cut of John's finger, yeah the bitch deserves jail
I think she deserves prison for everything she's done. The lies and false accusation. The abuse.
From all the information that has been released I believe that both of them are the victims and the abusers.
We know practically nothing about it. Judgments given out of sympathy or by a side taken on one side or the other are worth nothing.
I'd rather see Trump in jail, for everything he's done
She is cooked up for sure for sure her lid is blown off 😂😂
Don't know the background of the case. Whatever the state is law and if she's proven guilty then yes.
I dunno the whole story but judging by the question yeah
no, she's a female and should get special treatment of course. We can't hold her accountable
She will likely get away with everything anyway. ONLY men are bad... right?
I dont know. I think they are as bad as each other, and deserve each other..
It is hard to know what has happened behind closed doors and we might never know so I trust the courts with whatever they decide.
I honestly haven’t followed this. I find it truly sad that such a big deal is made of this based solely on who they are.
I hope so. It would be nice for a change to see a female abuser and false accuser who tries to destroy a man's life with lies get punished for it.
I wouldn't know but if he ever laid hands on her that would be first and last time.
he did , I have seen her black eyes
Don’t know if she should, has she been judged as guilty?
I would need to see the whole picture. Not sure it’s all been released.
I don’t know just joining the bandwagon. Still think she’s attractive tho
They would not hesitate of throwing the book at a man.
She won't be sentenced, as it is a civil case. There would be cash damages assessed.
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